Out of the Blue

As the frost sets in around these parts, I am beginning to make more use of my space heater again, and for whatever reason, Hudson the wonder dog's affection for this device only grows stronger over time. This is all in spite of her general disdain for warmth, she comes as soon she hears it fire up and stands about 2½ feet closer to the heat source than the three feet recommended on the warning label. So, once again I put out the advance warning... if you are in the Westchester area and you see a flaming Airedale Terrier running towards you, I'll be perpetually grateful if you could throw a bucket of water or a blanket over her.

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Re: We will be able to live to 1,000
Dec 5, 2004, 14:46
nin
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Re: We will be able to live to 1,000 Dec 5, 2004, 14:46
Dec 5, 2004, 14:46
nin
 
And you can always freeze yourself and pray for really really good nanotech someday.


And that someone from the future would give a rat's ass about thawing that person out, instead of just hitting the "delete" button!



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Re: We will be able to live to 1,000
Dec 5, 2004, 14:19
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Re: We will be able to live to 1,000 Dec 5, 2004, 14:19
Dec 5, 2004, 14:19
 
"We are a long way away from working around telomeres and senesence. The mechanisms leading to aging are same mechanisms preventing unchecked growth (ie cancer.)"

Absolutely true, but think of it this way (in lovely run-on form); we are doing extensive research on cancer and on the genetic elements of sensence, and it's (pardon the pun) the Holy Grail of biological research, and there is a decent, albiet currently unknown, chance that, if you did solve the telomere issue, you would simultaneous solve a number of the other degenerative aspects of advanced age, though almost certainly not all of them.

I mean, if we young adults can make it to, say, 2050 or 2075, I think there's a good chance that by then people will be at least trying to extend life far beyond what seems possible now.

And you can always freeze yourself and pray for really really good nanotech someday.
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HL2 on sale for $40 at BB
Dec 5, 2004, 13:54
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HL2 on sale for $40 at BB Dec 5, 2004, 13:54
Dec 5, 2004, 13:54
 
For those waiting for the price to drop, get it in time for Christmas!


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Re: Utah Man Pays $82 Fine in Pennies
Dec 5, 2004, 11:11
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Re: Utah Man Pays $82 Fine in Pennies Dec 5, 2004, 11:11
Dec 5, 2004, 11:11
 
I'm not a lawyer

Thankfully.

There's such a thing as a "nuisance payment". Paying in substantially smaller denominations than the total falls into this and your payment can be rejected on that basis.

Paying a $82 bill with $1 bills probably wouldn't fall into that category. Paying a $1000 bill would. The same goes for paying any bill over a really trivial amount with pennies.

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Re: Ballooning into the Sky
Dec 5, 2004, 10:36
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Re: Ballooning into the Sky Dec 5, 2004, 10:36
Dec 5, 2004, 10:36
 Enahs
 
And who wants someone like that living for a thousand years anyways? Castro? Hitler? I won't say the 'B' word, only four more years to go.

His second term has not even started yet, so it is more than 4 more years.

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Ballooning into the Sky
Dec 5, 2004, 02:14
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Ballooning into the Sky Dec 5, 2004, 02:14
Dec 5, 2004, 02:14
 

Who cares if we can live to a thousand or a few hundred years. That guy is having a rush. Live while you can, and enjoy it. Helium rules!

Maybe it's something a teenager would do. When I was fourteen, I was aware of my own mortality, but I didn't care. Ballooning? Hell yeah!

But I certainly knew when I was doing something 'wrong'. Like murder? If you kill someone and are in your 'teens' and don't realize that it's wrong, then I don't know what to say. Being a teenager isn't an excuse.

Giving teenagers a 'blanc carte' to kill just because they're young and hormonily fucked up doesn't give them the right to murder.

And who wants someone like that living for a thousand years anyways? Castro? Hitler? I won't say the 'B' word, only four more years to go.

I think many kids have a good idea that murdering people is not quite accepted in our society. But then again, the current leader is doing it without recrimination on a mass scale. They're not allowed to vote or watch 'Saving Private Ryan', or watch porn, but it's okay to for their McFlippin Burger earned tax dollars to go to nuclear submarines, tomahawk missiles and bombs.

Might is right, just don't do it at home. No wonder they're confused.

Ahh, if only we directed them towards making us old fucks immortal, or learning the joys of floating over the Earth in a bunch of Helium balloons....

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Re: This is just what Ashen Empires Needed!!
Dec 5, 2004, 02:13
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Re: This is just what Ashen Empires Needed!! Dec 5, 2004, 02:13
Dec 5, 2004, 02:13
 
Any pictures of Hudson?


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I made it back alive...............
Dec 5, 2004, 02:03
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I made it back alive............... Dec 5, 2004, 02:03
Dec 5, 2004, 02:03
 
Had to drive from MN to Fort Riley, KS friday after work. Helped someone move, then drove back Saturday.

Got pulled over by one of the MILLIONS of poicia on 35 south. Said I, "didn't dim my lights while I was pulling up behind him" didn't mention that I was going 78 in a 65.

I told him I didn't have my brights on at any time. He replied with, well, you blinded me, so others are probably having the same problem, you need to get that fixed. I said yessir and off I went. No ticket. hehehehe

Funny thing was, he was sitting at the bottom of a hill and I was coming down it....NO SHIT MY LIGHTS LOOKED BRIGHT.

ok....I need sleep.


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No subject
Dec 5, 2004, 01:18
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Dec 5, 2004, 01:18
 
I got your back blue. We're pretty close so ill have a bucket ready.
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Re: We will be able to live to 1,000
Dec 5, 2004, 01:11
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Re: We will be able to live to 1,000 Dec 5, 2004, 01:11
Dec 5, 2004, 01:11
 
About the best result I've seen is nematodes that undergo gonadal ablation and are calorically restricted.

Three cheers for gonadal ablation!!

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Re: Utah Man Pays $82 Fine in Pennies
Dec 5, 2004, 00:51
nin
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Re: Utah Man Pays $82 Fine in Pennies Dec 5, 2004, 00:51
Dec 5, 2004, 00:51
nin
 
I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure there is a federal law that says if someone rejects payment in legal tender, then they forfit the right to collect the payment.


And like the guy says in the article, legal tender is legal tender...



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Utah Man Pays $82 Fine in Pennies
Dec 5, 2004, 00:41
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Utah Man Pays $82 Fine in Pennies Dec 5, 2004, 00:41
Dec 5, 2004, 00:41
 
Court officials are apparently not amused, and have asked Petersen to come back in and offer a more "acceptable" form of payment. They say state policy allows clerks to reject unusual forms of payment, and it's going to waste county resources for someone to count all that change.

I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure there is a federal law that says if someone rejects payment in legal tender, then they forfit the right to collect the payment.

Besides, it would be easy to count anyway. They have machines that can count coins, and if you don't have one of those any scale will work.

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Re: Cat Fire
Dec 4, 2004, 22:27
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Re: Cat Fire Dec 4, 2004, 22:27
Dec 4, 2004, 22:27
 
I remember seeing something on the Discovery channel about how cats have a lot of insulation against heat, so they just don't really notice..

My dad had a cat that jumped on top of a hot wood stove not once, but twice, before he figured out that it was too hot. I guess they feel heat in their paws all right.

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We will be able to live to 1,000
Dec 4, 2004, 22:18
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We will be able to live to 1,000 Dec 4, 2004, 22:18
Dec 4, 2004, 22:18
 
Not freaking likely and certainly not anytime soon. None of the advances in medicine to date has done a thing to increase the maximum life expectancy of humans. We are healthier when we are older and have increased the median age of death, but the maximum age hasn't changed.

Work with caloric restriction in mice shows a very moderate increase. The mice look are healthier up until they die, but still kick the bucket at the same time the oldest mice on a normal diet die. About the best result I've seen is nematodes that undergo gonadal ablation and are calorically restricted. If I remember right, they live about 3x longer. So cut off your nuts and starve yourself and you may live 200 or 300 years, but then again you will probably consider that 300 years too many. I'll keep my nuts and die young.

We are a long way away from working around telomeres and senesence. The mechanisms leading to aging are same mechanisms preventing unchecked growth (ie cancer.)
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Re: Cat Fire
Dec 4, 2004, 17:04
nin
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Re: Cat Fire Dec 4, 2004, 17:04
Dec 4, 2004, 17:04
nin
 

I remember I went to visit my aunt in England and their cat had an acident with the space heater, her tail got alittle too close to the element and started on fire... there she was walking around the room with a little flame on the end of her tail until my dad with the newspaper saw her and swated out the flame with his paper... i must say it was quite shocking, but the cat didnt even notice so it was all gewd!


Your story reminded me of one in my family. My mother had this Burmese cat that was ALWAYS cold. One day, my mother was prepping steaks to go in the broiler of the oven.

(In case anyone doesn't know what a broiler is...) On US ovens (not sure if the whole world is like this), there's a small slide out tray at the bottom front of the oven, right above the floor. You set the oven to "Broil" and it's a place to cook steaks (not the best, like on a grill, but that's not the point of this story). You pull the door open, put your steaks on the (removable) tray, close it, and they cook.

ANYWAY...my mother had this door open , had the oven set to broil, and had the tray on the top of the oven, putting the steaks on the tray. She finishes, and as she's about to slide the tray back into the broiler, SOMETHING goes shooting out of the broiler at a very high speed.

That something was the Burmese cat. Apparently he was cold, wandered by at the wrong moment, and wandered into the broiler. Amazingly, he was no worse for the wear, other than all the fur on his back was singed (which, as I was a kid at the time, thought felt REALLY funny, compared to how cat hair usually feels)...

The cat went on to live a normal life, but it took a year or two for all the singed fur to grow out...



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Cat Fire
Dec 4, 2004, 16:28
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Cat Fire Dec 4, 2004, 16:28
Dec 4, 2004, 16:28
 
I remember I went to visit my aunt in England and their cat had an acident with the space heater, her tail got alittle too close to the element and started on fire... there she was walking around the room with a little flame on the end of her tail until my dad with the newspaper saw her and swated out the flame with his paper... i must say it was quite shocking, but the cat didnt even notice so it was all gewd!

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Stop the presses.
Dec 4, 2004, 16:09
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Stop the presses. Dec 4, 2004, 16:09
Dec 4, 2004, 16:09
 
That article is BS. Heres why:

Title: Teenagers fail to see the consequences

Quote: The subjects had to judge whether each was safe or dangerous. Both groups took longer to decide a scenario was dangerous, but this difference was greater in teenagers. Adults took 1.6 seconds longer to reach a decision while teenagers took 1.75 seconds more.

All this article proves is that Teenagers took longer to process a situation and determin wether it was dangerous or not. It does not say wether the process is right or wrong or wether they failed to understand the future consequences of their actions.

In fact it can be inferred from tha article that the teenage group performed equally in assesing how dangerous the situation was as the adults, as their was no major descrepancies between the groups other than the time taken to process the event, and certainly not a faliure to understand the consequences.

Therefore Teenagers who commit murder are guilty of two things (Being mentally slower than adults by 1'ish seconds, and of killing a person) and are fully aware of their actions consequences.

Therefore they should fry.


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Re: A ceramic space heater, maybe?
Dec 4, 2004, 15:38
nin
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Re: A ceramic space heater, maybe? Dec 4, 2004, 15:38
Dec 4, 2004, 15:38
nin
 
if you are in the Westchester area and you see a flaming Airedale Terrier running towards you, I'll be perpetually grateful if you could throw a bucket of water or a blanket over her

<nin makes note on checklist.>

Right-o!



All jokes aside, I have friend who's cat does the same thing - to the point that the cat will rest it's head on the side of the heater! The joke is the cat is frying it's brain...

But that's a cat for you...



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A ceramic space heater, maybe?
Dec 4, 2004, 14:55
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A ceramic space heater, maybe? Dec 4, 2004, 14:55
Dec 4, 2004, 14:55
 
Try a ceramic space heater. They cost a little more, but they crank out the heat without becoming so hot to the touch. I don't know how - - it's a mystery of the ages ...

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