/salute Zurra!

Well said!

Thanks for that Zurra.

EQ2 is the superior game. And I'm surprised to say that. I've played both extensively and I was expecting WoW to be the better. But it simply isn't the case.

First, if you like one and you don't like the other you aren't giving one a fair chance. Both are incrediblely well crafted games with excellent art and systems. At their core they are both the basic MUD style gameplay we've come acustomed to over the years. You kill creatures, gain xp, and advance your character though levels.

The differences lay in the details. EQ2's graphics technology far exceeds WoW. The level of detail in EQ2 provided by shadows, shaders, water effects, real time cloth simulation, and bumpmapping make the world and characters look far more realistic and intensely there than WoW. On the other hand, WoW is cartoony, oversaturated, and designed with an intentionally slanted hand: buildings lie at odd angles, etc. WoW's design is creative, but EQ2 looks real.

In gameplay the two games rapidly diverge in quality. The WoW combat experience is defined as pressing the same key over and over. Even at higher levels, creatures die quickly and little depth of combat evolves. Creatures use the same tactics continually and each creature is effectively the same as the last with a different model. In EQ2, tactics are the name of the game. Creatures can use the same powers as players and you will run into casters that can mez party members and creatures that use special attacks that can be avoided through positioning and proper skill use.

The scope of the two games is readily apparent as well. In WoW, you will always have a very limited set of quests available to you at any one time. Replayability is very limited as each race/class combo has a quest series that is basically the same as every other. In EQ2, you will find thousands of quests and a wide variety of things to do every time you log in. Where quests in WoW are limited to "kill X mobs" "collect X items" quests in EQ2 often send you to foreign lands to explore. Quests in EQ2 come from places you find as well as creatures you meet. You are heavily rewarded for exploring by the environment itself. WoW has no comparable system.

While SOE's reputation for quality customer service is in terrible condition, the quality of the game is incredible. There have been no major server problems that I've experienced since launch. The few quest bugs I ran into early on have all been fixed. WoW, on the other hand, can't keep their servers up.

Finally, EQ2 has an extensive player stat tracking service at www.eq2players.com. It elevates the competition to a new level. So cool.

If you dislike EQ2 simply because of SOEs reptuation you do yourself a disservice. This isn't EQ. It's a very different game. If you are a fan of MMO style gameplay or fantasy games in general you owe it to yourself to play both games and make your own opinion. Play a character in EQ2 to 20 and one in WoW to 20 and then stick with the one that compells you the most.

If you say you like one game and hate the other, I won't believe you. You just aren't giving both games a fair chance. They are both triple AAA, top quality, well crafted examples of MMO gameplay and both will be very successful. As a gamer, I would think you would want to REJOICE over the quality of MMOs that you can pick from now.

All problems are fixed as of today except 4 servers

EQ2 can now go back to its hiding place under a big fat, sony camping for mob and LFG rock

EQ2 fans really have small e-penises, its funny

they are so lonely and sad

Either way it can't be worse than the shape EQ2 is in. We Europeans have to wait for WoW and in the meanwhile play EQ2. It's bugged as hell and severs go up and down like yoyos. No two weeks would have fixed EQ2. Count yourselves lucky.

What the hell have you been playing?
Playing in Holland on a US server and have no lag problems whatsoever and also haven't encountered any game-ruining bugs...

I'm still on the fence about EQ2. I'm really really uninthused about the WoW login queue. Also the super lowend PC requirements guarentee mass smacktards.

on the other hand, I haven't played EQ2.. and the MxO beta is shaping up nicely.. And I still have HL2 and Bloodlines to finish.. not to mention Doom3.. argh.

lol.. I'm still watching the queuedance movie. It's up past 4000 minutes. Does this poor bastard ever get logged in?
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Yes, it is over 500 000 subscriptions. With over 100 000 playing at any given time.

Err you must of been playing a different EQ2 than the rest of us. EQ2's release has been flawless apart from SoE screwing us Europeans and now trying to make it up to us with servers with patch times to suit Europeons.

I have not experienced one bug yet with EQ2, which is damn impressive for a brand new MMO especially given it is easily the most complicated MMO ever released,

This comment was edited on Nov 25, 13:40.

its gwen stefani's new single, shes the chick from no doubt

swg free and loving it

The server we've been playing on became smooth as silk.

Been playing most of the day today - smooth.

No loot/quest/NPC lag at all.

Lot's of people playing too.

Be curious to see if it holds up for the rest of the day.

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What is that song?

It almost sounds like some good old 80's punk rock. Has music cycled around now after 20 years? I would like to hear some good new music. Haven't listened to the radio in about 6 years.

Did they release a number of currently subscribed users or bought copies yet?


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This comment was edited on Nov 25, 13:28.

Either way it can't be worse than the shape EQ2 is in. We Europeans have to wait for WoW and in the meanwhile play EQ2. It's bugged as hell and severs go up and down like yoyos. No two weeks would have fixed EQ2. Count yourselves lucky.

...Considering how many people played on the first day. They will have these problems solved in days, not weeks. I for one have not had to wait in queue and have not experienced any lag. There was some downtime last night which was good in the end. It allowed me to do other things, such as finish HL2 (now there's a botched launch!!!).

If Blizzard had done what the players ask - extend beta by at least 2 weeks untill they resolve these issues - they wouldn't have these problems.

They did. You just had to pay $59 to $99 to get into this beta test.

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If Blizzard had done what the players ask - extend beta by at least 2 weeks untill they resolve these issues - they wouldn't have these problems.


"Now, my Woody Allen impression: I'm a neurotic nerd who likes to sleep with little girls."
- Rainer Wolfcastle

"But, no, everyone has to 'play with their friends'."

Uh, isn't that kinda the point of the game?

The real truth is that if people had did what Blizzard asked, none of them would be waiting.

I've played since a few days ago and I haven't waited in a queue once.

But, no, everyone has to 'play with their friends'. Instead of picking servers with lower populations, and insisting on the high population servers.

http://www.leagueofpirates.com/sirvival/queuedance.html

this made me laugh

nice song as well!

for launch but all servers are back up except 4 (one of which my characters are on and it won't be back up for 2 days)

But overall even with the lag it's been alot of fun.