EA Tries to Get DICEier

EA Issues Tender Offer for Outstanding Shares in Swedish Developer, Digital Illusions (thanks Frans) reports that the board of directors at Digital Illusions is recommending their shareholders accept a tender offer to acquire the outstanding shares of the Swedish developer. EA already owns 19% of the creator of the Battlefield series.
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NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Nov 15, 2004, 08:21
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NOOOOOOOOOOO! Nov 15, 2004, 08:21
Nov 15, 2004, 08:21
 
DICE: DO NOT SELL OUT TO ELECTRONIC ARTS!

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Re: NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Nov 15, 2004, 08:23
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Re: NOOOOOOOOOOO! Nov 15, 2004, 08:23
Nov 15, 2004, 08:23
 
Enig med du, instant.

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Re: NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Nov 15, 2004, 09:04
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Re: NOOOOOOOOOOO! Nov 15, 2004, 09:04
Nov 15, 2004, 09:04
 
you meran you dont think they should "challenge everythinggggggggggggggggg"
Jesus I hate EA> yet another developer gets swallowed up by the borg.
screw EA and their corporate bull. Thats another group of developers who will be polishing their resumes ready to get replaced by cheap comp sci students. grrrrrrrrrrrrr

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Fer the love of all things holy....
Nov 15, 2004, 09:22
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Fer the love of all things holy.... Nov 15, 2004, 09:22
Nov 15, 2004, 09:22
 
Please DICE read the info about the lawsuit against EA by it's employee's. Go back and search for info on companies like Bullfrog Studios, Westwood Studios, Origins, etc. I mean the only company that is left that was purchased by EA is Maxis.

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NOOO indeed
Nov 15, 2004, 09:28
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NOOO indeed Nov 15, 2004, 09:28
Nov 15, 2004, 09:28
 
Don't sell out.

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Re: Fer the love of all things holy....
Nov 15, 2004, 09:42
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Re: Fer the love of all things holy.... Nov 15, 2004, 09:42
Nov 15, 2004, 09:42
 
maxis won't last much longer. they are only still called maxis because its a recent acquisition.
criterion will go the same way.
Thank god lionhead steer clear of this shit.

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Ding! Ding!
Nov 15, 2004, 09:45
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Ding! Ding! Nov 15, 2004, 09:45
Nov 15, 2004, 09:45
 
It's become Pavlovian.


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Re: Ding! Ding!
Nov 15, 2004, 09:50
PHJF
 
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Re: Ding! Ding! Nov 15, 2004, 09:50
Nov 15, 2004, 09:50
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Dice sucks, honestly, learn how to support your titles. They will fit right in at EA.

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Maxis....
Nov 15, 2004, 09:57
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Maxis.... Nov 15, 2004, 09:57
Nov 15, 2004, 09:57
 
As long as maxis pumps out expansions and more The Sims games they are fine. But Westwood is a prime example, after Dune 3 and the C&C/Red Alert Games they were no longer useful, and EA took over and put out Generals. And Ultima Online 2 (working title) and Ultima Odyessy (spelling) were both canceled after having SIGNIFICANT amount of work done on them, in fact if I remember correctly Lord British said that Ultima Online 2 was feature complete and just needed content and it was canned. And then there is the Wind Commander Series. Also didn't Violation do Red Faction for EA or was that THQ?

Even the folks that did Freedom Force won't use EA as a publisher for Freedom Force 2.

At this point in time I'd much rather have Microsoft buy Dice then EA.

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Re: Ding! Ding!
Nov 15, 2004, 09:57
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Re: Ding! Ding! Nov 15, 2004, 09:57
Nov 15, 2004, 09:57
 
Professional, apparently you only know of their Battlefield games.

DiCE also makes the Rallisport Challenge games, which I'm sure will die or be horribly mutilated if EA buys DiCE out. RSC2 had some issues when it came out, but they went through and fixed all of them. EA just doesn't really care if the games they put out are supported, they'd rather have DiCE working on the next title than fixing the old one.

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No subject
Nov 15, 2004, 10:24
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No subject Nov 15, 2004, 10:24
Nov 15, 2004, 10:24
 
I have to agree with many of the posters here. Getting bought out by EA may work in the short term, but when you look at all the companies that have been purchased by EA, very few are still around today. We're talking about companies that did have a good track record and all it took was one minor slump before EA wiped them out. Westwood had been around since the mid1980s, and had a number of good franchises and titles under their belt. Origin was the same way. Bullfrog had many popular titles as well. All of them hit a slump, which may or may not have been due to EA pulling their strings, and once that slump hit, EA was pretty quick in wiping those companies out and keeping their intellectual properties.

If The Sims stopped selling well as a franchise, I don't think Maxis would be around that long afterwards. I wouldn't be surprised to see an announcement on EA disbanding them within the next five years. The Sims will eventually run it's course, and Maxis doesn't really have anything else under their belts right now.

The shareholders of Digital Illusions will probably win from this, but the development studio won't win in the long run.


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No subject
Nov 15, 2004, 10:36
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No subject Nov 15, 2004, 10:36
Nov 15, 2004, 10:36
 
If being bought by EA means a sequel to Pinball Fantasies, I'm all for it.

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EA vs Dice
Nov 15, 2004, 11:49
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EA vs Dice Nov 15, 2004, 11:49
Nov 15, 2004, 11:49
 
EA have already corrupted DiCE. The producers on BF2 are all EA-drones, and as a consequence BF2 will be more like that sorry tragedy BF:Vietnam than BF42, or even Desert Combat.

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Re: No subject
Nov 15, 2004, 11:55
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Nov 15, 2004, 11:55
 
Darnit! I wanted to mention Pinball Fantasies/Illusions/Dreams



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Dice Rocks!!!!
Nov 15, 2004, 12:04
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Dice Rocks!!!! Nov 15, 2004, 12:04
Nov 15, 2004, 12:04
 
Dice Rocks= BF:1942 had to be one of the most inovated Online games ever to be made- Too bad they didn't make BF:Vietnam- BF:2 -Something to look foward to after Half-Life 2 tonight

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I Wonder...
Nov 15, 2004, 12:27
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I Wonder... Nov 15, 2004, 12:27
Nov 15, 2004, 12:27
 
I fully agree with the posters here that this will not be a good thing for DICE in the long run (except the owners who can retire now), but I just have one question for those who are complaining. How many people here own Sims games or the latest EA Sports crap? I hate EA and that's why I don't support them further by buying their unfinished crap and regurgitated licences.

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Re: I Wonder...
Nov 15, 2004, 12:30
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Re: I Wonder... Nov 15, 2004, 12:30
Nov 15, 2004, 12:30
 
Forget pinball.

Give me Dungeon Keeper 3 ! !

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Re: I Wonder...
Nov 15, 2004, 12:47
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Re: I Wonder... Nov 15, 2004, 12:47
Nov 15, 2004, 12:47
 
yeah its a good point. we can whine all we like but we still buy the games... Look at all the horsehit we have got from valve and vivendi, yet we are all going to buy half life 2.
Money talks. Until everything changes from a purchase system to a rental (pay per play) system, there is no incentive for companies to produce good quality, fun, bug free games. If they can generate the hype, we seem to buy it.
If Half Life 2 is a bug ridden unplayable mess, Valve still get their money. (i dont expect this to happen, but with the current system, it could do).


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Re: I Wonder...
Nov 15, 2004, 12:58
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Re: I Wonder... Nov 15, 2004, 12:58
Nov 15, 2004, 12:58
 
How many people here own Sims games or the latest EA Sports crap? I hate EA and that's why I don't support them further by buying their unfinished crap and regurgitated licences.

I own The Sims 2, but I don't see how that invalidates my opinion that it would be bad to sell out to EA. Better companies than DI have been strip mined, gutted, and had all the majority of their employees cast in to the wind. EA's done it several times, and everyone knows that EA could easily just buy them, have them make a few games, decide the profit margain isn't enough, and just close their shop. EA still would get the Battlefield rights and other rights DI currently holds out of the situation, and the shareholders of DI would get EA stock out of it. However, the ones counting on their jobs there would be in trouble.

Talking about Maxis though, if EA decided they could just do sim games without the Maxis staff, which they could easily do, where would that leave the Maxis developers? Wil Wright and crew might be on the top of the world now, but without their SimCity and The Sims franchises to insure they have a future, they'd be in trouble. If they decided to do anything similar to those games, EA would most likely sue the pants off them as well.

All I'm saying is that if I were a developer, I'd certainly be against selling out to EA.


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No subject
Nov 15, 2004, 13:14
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No subject Nov 15, 2004, 13:14
Nov 15, 2004, 13:14
 
How many people here own Sims games or the latest EA Sports crap? I hate EA and that's why I don't support them further by buying their unfinished crap and regurgitated licences.

I stopped buying EA games last year after Madden 2004 for Xbox. After that game I stopped buying EA games becasue they aren't much fun. NFS Underground and its sequel are quite dry for gameplay compared to Gran Tourismo or even Project Gotham 2.

The worst part is people will buy Madden games regardless if they are trhe same game as the year before. (03-04 season)

I tried to convince a friend to try NFL 2k5 and he refused because he 'might like it.'

All in all for DICE: Don't let EA get within 100 yards of your building if you want to keep your doors open.

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