Firefox Released

One more morning Tech Bit here, as the promised official release of version 1.0 of the Mozilla Firefox web browser is now available (thanks Frans). As noted in the press release, "Development of Firefox has been driven by a desire for a more robust, user-friendly and trustworthy web experience." Unfortunately, this web experience may be a little lacking in robustness at the moment, as the site is being pounded quite heavily.
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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 10, 2004, 08:44
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 10, 2004, 08:44
Nov 10, 2004, 08:44
 
Just update to the latest Googlebar - 9.30 - and it should work.

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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 10, 2004, 04:47
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 10, 2004, 04:47
Nov 10, 2004, 04:47
 
Is there a Googlebar that works with it yet? It "confiscated" my Googlebar on install and so far the versions at the extension site don't work. I know there's Google search at the top-right corner, but Googlebar has some nice features.

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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 10, 2004, 03:05
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 10, 2004, 03:05
Nov 10, 2004, 03:05
 
I don't think you can do that to go from 0.9.3 to 1.0.

Yeah, I didn't want to lose my multitude of bookmarks.

I carefully moved enough from the unzipped folder into the old install folder until finally Help/About says 1.0 and everything appears ok now... so far... I'm sure there's a reg entry or two that are missing since it's not a 'proper' install but I've had to 'fool' Windows into doing stuff like this in the past.

And if it all goes to shit, well, I still have Netscape 4.7, Netscape 7, Opera 6.05, and Maxthon (new name for MyIE)...

Thanks for the help though!

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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 10, 2004, 00:09
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 10, 2004, 00:09
Nov 10, 2004, 00:09
 
I basically plopped the new version on top of the old one and kept the extensions and bookmarks folders. FF still thinks it's 0.9.3 according to Help/About, but so far so good
I don't think you can do that to go from 0.9.3 to 1.0. You should probably uninstall Firefox and start again from scratch since 0.9.3 was a beta, and pretty old at this point. If it's saying 0.9.3 in the About box, something isn't right.

Just remember to save your bookmarks.html and cookies.txt files from your profile directory before you erase everything else!

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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 9, 2004, 23:51
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 9, 2004, 23:51
Nov 9, 2004, 23:51
 
complicity: Thanks for pointing those builds out... holy $#!+ the 'optimized' version of 1.0 seems WAY faster than plain old ver. 0.9.3. Woohoo!
I thought the new builds would install instead of unpack the files, so I basically plopped the new version on top of the old one and kept the extensions and bookmarks folders. FF still thinks it's 0.9.3 according to Help/About, but so far so good...

oops it won't let me cut/paste. Looks like I'll have to test everything else...

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Re: No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 23:41
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Nov 9, 2004, 23:41
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Are you serious? That's freaking hilarious if you are lol

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Re: No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 21:12
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Nov 9, 2004, 21:12
 
NWS Blocker = Not Work Safe Blocker

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Re: No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 21:05
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Nov 9, 2004, 21:05
 
"Firefox also has a NWS blocker"

what is this?


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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 9, 2004, 21:02
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 9, 2004, 21:02
Nov 9, 2004, 21:02
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Optimized builds are available here:

That's something lots of people overlook when talking about the advantages of open-source software. Anyone can grab the source tree and build it for a specific architecture, which can often provide some delta of improvement. With closed-source, you're limited to whatever the company provides, which is almost certainly something that runs on a base architecture for maximum compatibility.

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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 9, 2004, 17:50
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 9, 2004, 17:50
Nov 9, 2004, 17:50
 
Optimized builds are available here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm

I might check them out on my home rig when I get home tonight. Thanks.

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Re: Optimized Builds
Nov 9, 2004, 17:19
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Re: Optimized Builds Nov 9, 2004, 17:19
Nov 9, 2004, 17:19
 
Optimized builds are available here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm
Yep, that's what I use too. Whether they actually are faster or not, they definitely seem so to my perception, so that's good enough for me.

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Re: No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 17:18
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Nov 9, 2004, 17:18
 
I run update from options and it says no updates found.
I'd guess that's from update.mozilla.org getting hammered mercilessly today.

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Optimized Builds
Nov 9, 2004, 15:50
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Optimized Builds Nov 9, 2004, 15:50
Nov 9, 2004, 15:50
 
Optimized builds are available here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/releasebuilds.htm

Descriptions of what M1, M2, and M3 mean can be found here: http://www.moox.ws/tech/mozilla/

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Re: No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 15:31
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Nov 9, 2004, 15:31
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I run update from options and it says no updates found.


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Re: No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 15:04
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Nov 9, 2004, 15:04
 
Firefox wont load the images on this page but IE will. Anyone know why?

Because in addition to a pop-up blocker, Firefox also has a NWS blocker

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No subject
Nov 9, 2004, 14:48
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Nov 9, 2004, 14:48
 
Firefox wont load the images on this page but IE will. Anyone know why?

http://www.ugo.com/channels/girlfriends/doubleagent/gallery.asp?img=4&gallery=double-lisa_girls

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Re: Firefox = kickarse
Nov 9, 2004, 14:39
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Re: Firefox = kickarse Nov 9, 2004, 14:39
Nov 9, 2004, 14:39
 
I have 15 extensions installed, and out of those 4 do not work, and out of which only 2 are really important to my browsing experience. The rest are fluff. I hardly call that "Not Ready for Primi Time"

How about we discuss Internet Exploder's vulnerabilities? Like this latest one that was just publicized half an hour ago, as of this posting?

http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_title=New-Risks-from-Latest-Mydoom-Worm&story_id=28278

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Re: Firefox = kickarse
Nov 9, 2004, 14:19
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Nov 9, 2004, 14:19
 
to make a product work correctly is the definition of a "Not Ready For Prime Time" product.
The difference is that you can do this with Firefox extensions. The situation is no different than add-ons for other products needing to be updated before they will necessarily work with a new version of software, except (usually) only the manufacturer of the add-on itself can perform the fix. Within a couple of days, most of the popular extensions for Firefox will be updated to work 'out-of-the-box', and some (most?) already do. It just means that people like me don't have to wait.

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Re: Firefox = kickarse
Nov 9, 2004, 14:16
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Re: Firefox = kickarse Nov 9, 2004, 14:16
Nov 9, 2004, 14:16
 
He's talking about fixing an extension that's someone else's, that's only broken because the authors haven't updated it for 1.0, and can be quickly fixed by yourself if you were so inclined

The analogy would be if the new version of IE changed something so that Flash no longer worked, but one line of editing flash's preferences fixed it. Regardless, it's not MS's fault; similarly, it's not Firefox's fault that people's old extensions don't work with the new version.

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Re: Firefox = kickarse
Nov 9, 2004, 14:04
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Re: Firefox = kickarse Nov 9, 2004, 14:04
Nov 9, 2004, 14:04
 
Now that it's no longer beta i guess i'll have to try it and will probably love it.

Still, some of you guys are funny at what you're willing to forgive and put up with as long as it's not MS! , cuz having to do This:
Easy fix, just like I thought. Open xpi files (or jar for themes) with WinRAR, extract the install.rdf file and edit the 'em:maxVersion' variable to be 1.0 and then re-add your edited install.rdf file back into the xpi or jar. Install as normal. Unless there are actual incompatibilities with the extension and Firefox, this will work.
to make a product work correctly is the definition of a "Not Ready For Prime Time" product.

Yet if M$ did the same thing on a freeware product, the same people would spontaneously combust!

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