Out of the Blue

My surprisingly difficult search is over, as I finally found a copy of the Ren & Stimpy DVD set. Happy happy, joy joy!

Couple of birthdays yesterday: Shout outs to Bill Gates and The Romero, who, as far as I know, did not celebrate together.

Play Time: Quest for Test. Thanks Ant.
Link of the Day: Apple - iPod Ashlee Simpson Karaoke Edition. Thanks Devicer.
Stories of the Day: Man says live wire in bath was to save marriage.
Science!: Smaller, more powerful PC fuel cell is on the way.
Study Red Wine Slows Lung Cancer, White Raises Risk. Thanks Warren.
Astronomers chart asteroid threat.
Images of the Day: City of Heroes meets Halloween. Thanks Ant.
Auction of the Day: ATI XPERT98 RAGE XL PCI 8MB ENG-JPN [30-PACK]. Thanks Devicer.
Follow-ups: Now it's Howard Stern vs. Colin Powell (here's the call). Thanks ASLayerAODsk.
Thanks Mike Martinez.
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Re: Wow. Very interesting.
Nov 1, 2004, 10:42
Re: Wow. Very interesting. Nov 1, 2004, 10:42
Nov 1, 2004, 10:42
 
Yeah, but Ren & Stimpy make up for it

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Re: Wow. Very interesting.
Oct 31, 2004, 08:40
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Re: Wow. Very interesting. Oct 31, 2004, 08:40
Oct 31, 2004, 08:40
 
Anyone else notice the thread named "Happy, Happy" is talking about the deaths in Iraq, carpet-bombing, and other beautiful things?


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Re: Wow. Very interesting.
Oct 30, 2004, 19:00
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Re: Wow. Very interesting. Oct 30, 2004, 19:00
Oct 30, 2004, 19:00
 
In 6 short years Kissenger managed to kill over a million people with illegal carpet bombings in Laos, Cambodia and Thailand.
I see your point but that was a different situation. To my knowledge we haven't carpet bombed Iraq - we've used precision missiles in civilian areas (which we all know are anything but, but we aren't napalming entire suburbs). That said, whenever you drop daisy cutters you end up hurting people. While nobody knows what the toll is, and never will, my point was that the results of this survey are statistically unreliable. And therefore unreliable as evidence.

That got cut off before I finished DL'ing it. So we'll have to try again at some point.
Wierd. OK, I'll do it again tomorrow.

No one said you have to like what the other guy is doing, but you do need to respect it.
Words to live by.


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Re: Wow. Very interesting.
Oct 30, 2004, 12:31
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Re: Wow. Very interesting. Oct 30, 2004, 12:31
Oct 30, 2004, 12:31
 
That is likely to be a complete exaggeration,

I'd say the opposite given the U.S. track record with this sort of thing. In 6 short years Kissenger managed to kill over a million people with illegal carpet bombings in Laos, Cambodia and Thailand. Some estimates put the number upwards of 3 million. Anyplace America gets involved (i.e. conflicts - direct and/or by proxy) death and destruction follow, generally in pretty considerable numbers.

No, that's right, but the conservative islamists (OBL et al) are hellbent on destroying anyone that doesn't treat the Koran as the highest power. This includes any government - including muslim governments such as Egypt and Algeria - that don't take their power straight from God.

Well, I could really care less about their internal conflicts. If they lack the desire to have a democratic way of life and won't stop these theocrats, tough titty for them. They are a tiny minority, so it's not like the Arab states couldn't deal with them if they really wanted to.

Watch that thing I sent you and you'll see what I mean.

That got cut off before I finished DL'ing it. So we'll have to try again at some point.

But some elements (and I dont mean Bush here, I mean the neo-cons - there's a difference) want to wipe out any non-democratic governments.

Including at home? The hypocrisy here is just sad. Any country that can be bullied, is. Any that can't, isn't (e.g. trade with China - in spite of Taiwan - and Vietnam is fine, but not with Cuba).

That's equally sad, because it completely violates any notion that there can be more than one way to live in the world.

Indeed. For the "Land of the Free" it has an atrocious track record in respecting other people's right to self-determination. No one said you have to like what the other guy is doing, but you do need to respect it.


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Re: Stern
Oct 30, 2004, 09:40
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Re: Stern Oct 30, 2004, 09:40
Oct 30, 2004, 09:40
 
Opie & Anthony had one lesbian insert the business end of a wiffle-ball bat into another today on their show......

Opie and Anthony! Haven't heard their names in a while - actually since they got run out of Boston... Awesome jocks.

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Re: Wow. Very interesting.
Oct 30, 2004, 05:56
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Re: Wow. Very interesting. Oct 30, 2004, 05:56
Oct 30, 2004, 05:56
 
Economists are almost NEVER for tax cuts, since this does not spur the economy.
That's not true at all. They DO spur the economy, but not for long term - the economy reverts to it's natural level of output. All they are is a shot in the arm, which the US needed post 9/11. However, the equality of the tax cuts was the retarded bit.

I think Kerry's money will come from taxing foreign earnings. This is a gold mine. However, lower corporation tax will swallow most of that.

Edit: so as to avoid making yet more posts, I'll answer some more in this one:

100,000 civilians dead in just 18 months
That is likely to be a complete exaggeration, because (if you're reffering to the Lancet's recent research) the method used to obtain the results was not particularly reliable. Extrapolation based on a small, randomly selected sample size is not a good way of making concrete analysis. That being said, the "official" measures, from Iraq's interim govt (something around 3000) and Iraq Body Count (something around 10,000) sound suspiciously low.

Contrary to what paranoid people believe about Muslims... they are not hellbent on destroying the west
No, that's right, but the conservative islamists (OBL et al) are hellbent on destroying anyone that doesn't treat the Koran as the highest power. This includes any government - including muslim governments such as Egypt and Algeria - that don't take their power straight from God. Any non-islamic theocracy. Watch that thing I sent you and you'll see what I mean.
The sad thing is, we are exactly the same. The West doesn't want to wipe out muslims. But some elements (and I dont mean Bush here, I mean the neo-cons - there's a difference) want to wipe out any non-democratic governments. That's equally sad, because it completely violates any notion that there can be more than one way to live in the world.

Did anyone ever notice that Eminem is an anagram for
Min E Me?
Dude, are you sure they didn't get to you too?:)

Oh, and further edit: I find it quite funny that in some counties there are more registered voters than there are over-18s. Some foul play - who'd have thought.
Before anyone says, they're in both democratic and republican counties.
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Re: Politicians
Oct 30, 2004, 05:48
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Re: Politicians Oct 30, 2004, 05:48
Oct 30, 2004, 05:48
 
Wow! I never thought I'd see the day when a magazine as conservative as that would back a Democrat for prez.
The Economist is only fiscally conservative because in economic terms it does "make sense." However, it is socially moderate, calling for gay marriage, stem cell research etc to be legalised. It also has strong opinions on "the right way" to sort out things like Israel/Palestine, etc. But they are usually backed up by political realities: economics state do A, politics will require the following concessions etc.

As a balanced (and that is not to say unbiased), intelligent read, the Economist is hard to beat.

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Re: OBL
Oct 30, 2004, 03:20
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Re: OBL Oct 30, 2004, 03:20
Oct 30, 2004, 03:20
 
No, everything OBL said is true. That's their perspective. Contrary to what paranoid people believe about Muslims (remember, these are the same people who saw communism as some vast international conspiracy as well, and generally just tend to see enemies everywhere), they are not hellbent on destroying the west. They basically want 2 things: the end of unconditional support for Israel; that western powers get out of the Middle-East - Saudi Arabia in particular. Anything else you hear is just so much propaganda.

And like you said, given what the guy has done, who'd really trust him?

Conversely, if you look at the West's history in the Middle-East even just over the last century alone (not to mention the Crusades) most people there say the same thing. The fact is, we've done far worse by them, then they have by us. That's not a rationalization of their actions, just an explanation. Iraq today is just another example in a long sad history of examples. 100,000 civilians dead in just 18 months. Over the past century that number is in the millions (that is for all the major imperialist powers, America, England, France, Germany, etc.) It's not like they lack enough reasons to hate us and want to drive us out of the Middle-East.

What OBL is saying is that the American people need to wake up and get involved. They need to actively start understanding the why's and how's of American foreign policy and the results of those policies. Simply voting once every few years and then just ignoring what the elected officials do for however long they're in office isn't acceptable. The sad thing is he's right. Sadder still is the fact that if most people had any real idea of how their government was behaving around the globe over the past century most of them would be shocked and appalled.


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Computer update
Oct 30, 2004, 02:23
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Computer update Oct 30, 2004, 02:23
Oct 30, 2004, 02:23
 
Just an update on my PC from yesterday -- got the new MB (the local place did get the right one), installed it this evening, and everything is running fine now.

Damn glad it was that and not the CPU or memory. Again, thanks for the various suggestions.

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Re: I know this will anger some people
Oct 29, 2004, 23:10
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Re: I know this will anger some people Oct 29, 2004, 23:10
Oct 29, 2004, 23:10
 
I've beaten him into it. It's his fault for marrying an English major.
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Re: Powells
Oct 29, 2004, 21:22
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Re: Powells Oct 29, 2004, 21:22
Oct 29, 2004, 21:22
 
It's Michael Powell--not Colin Powell.

No, actually the article is about Michael's Dad defending him against Stern's charges of nepotism.

The radio clip is, of course, with Michael.

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Re: OBL
Oct 29, 2004, 21:20
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Oct 29, 2004, 21:20
 
Definitely trying to influence the election
No, just a reminder that it doesn't matter who is in office, Al-Qaeda will always be around and always planning the next big attack. Same shit, different tape. It's getting old. Though, like nin, I did catch a hint of sense in the transcript, almost like OBL has realized Al-Qaeda is just a shell of what it was, and his thought process has kicked into survival mode.
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Re: OBL
Oct 29, 2004, 20:56
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Re: OBL Oct 29, 2004, 20:56
Oct 29, 2004, 20:56
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but I wonder if he's feeling the heat and doing this to try to remove some of the pressure directed his way


That was the exact impression I got. He's gone from "America must die" to "We won't attack you if you won't attack us". If felt like a total face-saving message...

And like you said, given what the guy has done, who'd really trust him?


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Re: OBL
Oct 29, 2004, 20:44
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Re: OBL Oct 29, 2004, 20:44
Oct 29, 2004, 20:44
 
I read about it a few minutes ago, but that's about it. Sounds like he clained responsibility for 9/11, said that it is because of our support of Israel that he ordered the attacks, and was somewhat open about us avoiding other attacks, except for something about there still being other reasons to attack us again.

Like I'd believe anything of what he says about not attacking us again to begin with, but I wonder if he's feeling the heat and doing this to try to remove some of the pressure directed his way? Definitely trying to influence the election, IMHO, but it doesn't seem like he made any overt statements about wanting Kerry over Bush or anything to that effect, so a little difficult to tell from what little I've read about it.

I've been outside unloading paving tiles for my back yard. Gotta take a break before the wife gets home.


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Re: Stern
Oct 29, 2004, 19:18
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Re: Stern Oct 29, 2004, 19:18
Oct 29, 2004, 19:18
 
You think so, huh? When someone famous comes out with a new movie or whatever and is doing the rounds on all the tv & radio shows, do the following:

1) Tape the interview they have with Letterman, Leno, and Conan.
2) Tape the interview they have with Howard Stern.

After you've taped them all, listen to them back-to-back.

For case 1, you'll find that they're cookie cutter interviews. They ask the same questions, and the people give dumb and boring answers. "Yes, it was great working with him because he's just a genius and ..." ... ugh ... Usually they tell the same anecdotes on each show, too. These shows are for promotion first, "funny" anecdotes second, and interviewing third.

For case 2, you'll find that the interviews are almost always entertaining and interesting because Howard focuses on the interview first and foremost. Howard doesn't ask the cookie-cutter questions, and when the guest tries to tell their 'funny' anecdote that they've told a million times before, Howard will always cut them off and ask an interesting question. When he's not getting a good interview, he goes to great lengths to create a good interview and that's usually where the sex-oriented questions come in, and that's usually the topic that makes people uncomfortable about the show. But when you listen to enough interviews, you'll discover that it's part of his overall interviewing style: a carefully crafted sequence of questions and comments that often brilliantly manipulate the interviewee into providing an interesting segment on the show.

There are other good interviewers out there who do have interesting interviews without resorting to 'smut', as people call it, but nobody can force a good interview from someone like Howard can.

Opie & Anthony had one lesbian insert the business end of a wiffle-ball bat into another today on their show......

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OBL
Oct 29, 2004, 19:14
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OBL Oct 29, 2004, 19:14
Oct 29, 2004, 19:14
 
No mention of the new Bin Laden video yet?

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/29/terror/main652373.shtml

November surprise?

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Powells
Oct 29, 2004, 18:56
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Oct 29, 2004, 18:56
 
It's Michael Powell--not Colin Powell.

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Re: Stern
Oct 29, 2004, 18:50
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Re: Stern Oct 29, 2004, 18:50
Oct 29, 2004, 18:50
 


To summarize your point.

To be a genius like Howard Stern, talk about smut.

Haha!

Actually that thing that just flew right over your head was my point.


Oh really? Then maybe you should edit your post and take out:

When he's not getting a good interview, he goes to great lengths to create a good interview and that's usually where the sex-oriented questions come in, and that's usually the topic that makes people uncomfortable about the show.

Of the very few interviews I have heard, he talks about nothing earth shattering. In fact they quickly fall under (as you put it) 'When he's not getting a good interview' - and quickly change to smut. Most of the time he pines over them and talks about how much he likes them. No different. Except when he asks them to take off their clothes.

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Re: My favorite singer is Eminem.
Oct 29, 2004, 18:47
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Re: My favorite singer is Eminem. Oct 29, 2004, 18:47
Oct 29, 2004, 18:47
 
"My favorite singer is Eminem."

It's too bad evil got to Eminem. I wanted to like the video. It was too dark for me. Almost heavy metal satan worship. Compare the song to earlier Eminem. He was still singing social kinda stuff but he was much lighter.

Last time I saw a picture of him, I could tell one of evil's emissaries had gotten to him and convinced him to inject drugs. Really a shame cause he was a good kid.

Look at stars with a social consicence. Jimi Hendrix, dead of junk, Janis Joplin, dead of junk, Jim Morrison, dead of junk. They get popular, get a following, raise the social conscience of society, then they start shooting up.

Coincidence? I don't think so. Once they shoot up they change in a way they are no longer the same. No longer so popular. This is the first I have heard of Eminem in the popular press for a year or so.

Shooting up is bad news. Don't ever, ever, ever, ever do it. If you shoot up you will be crippled for life. You will never think the same again. The drugs work not be interacting with your bloodstream, they work by corroding your body from the inside. I could point it out to you in pictures. I feel to downer from thinking they got to eminem.

Snorting drugs does the same thing, but slower. Snorting drugs does not interact with the blood vessels in your nose. They go in their and eat away at your brain. Right behind the nose is a big Sinus cavity. That all collapses so you can't think anymore. Forever. Look at Al Pacino. He snorted cocaine and has been crazy ever since.

If you like Cameron Diaz, they got to her also. Junkie. It is really obvious. The side of the head caves in from the corrosion. You can see a big dark line where the junk was flowing in their veins. Really sad. Cameron Diaz was ditzy but fun.

Did anyone ever notice that Eminem is an anagram for
Min E Me?

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Re: Stern
Oct 29, 2004, 18:42
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81.
Re: Stern Oct 29, 2004, 18:42
Oct 29, 2004, 18:42
 indiv
 
To summarize your point.

To be a genius like Howard Stern, talk about smut.

Haha!

Actually that thing that just flew right over your head was my point.

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