LSL Banned in Oz

TotalGames.net reports that Leisure Suit Larry: Magna Cum Laude has been banned in Australia, denying the polygonal pervert his chance to go down under. Word is: "The Office of Film and Literature Classification reported that the game contains 'obscured and/or implied sexual activity and obscured and partial nudity involving stylised, animated characters', as well as implied 'oral favours'." Thanks Mike Martinez.
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Re: uh surrreee.
Oct 14, 2004, 01:45
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Re: uh surrreee. Oct 14, 2004, 01:45
Oct 14, 2004, 01:45
 
So the solution to giving people their freedom is to take it away?
Freedom has a price, and in the history of the U.S. that price has been very high for the many who have fought and died for the freedoms most now take for granted. Requiring young men and women to serve their country for a couple of years would certainly not be depriving them of all freedom, and it would not be a long term commitment.

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Re: No subject
Oct 12, 2004, 11:13
Cy
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Re: No subject Oct 12, 2004, 11:13
Oct 12, 2004, 11:13
Cy
 
As for BBC, yeah they are (on the whole) an excellent system. The only two problems are their embarrassing political correctness (political politeness = good, BBC political correctness = cringeworthy) and their dumbed down television news. Their website is excellent, though. My homepage for many years.

Yeah very nice for everyone not british - we have to pay over £100 a year to fund the bbc. Every single household which owns a TV.

Even if you don't watch BBC, who put 30 year old reruns of sitcoms on during primetime saturday night, or listen to their shite radio stations.

You still have to pay over £100 a year. Must say that doesn't really feel like freedom to me!

The "corporation" is also run by total imbeciles - for instance they signed Graham Norton for £5,000,000 but he has yet to do a single program for them. That's approximatley 5000 homes who's TV License money went straight into his pocket - hmmm great value for money.


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No subject
Oct 12, 2004, 05:43
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No subject Oct 12, 2004, 05:43
Oct 12, 2004, 05:43
 
Do you even understand what the MPAA is? It's an industry-created agency. It's not a government bureau. They didn't censor Team America. They (NOT THE GOVERNMENT) simply gave it a content rating based on, of all things, its content. Had the puppet sex scene been left in, the film would've been rated NC-17. So the scene was removed, the film gets rated R, and the scene gets tossed in on the DVD.

Absolutely no censorship took place. The government did not say, "Hey North Park guys, or whatever that damn show is called! NO PUPPET SEX!" The government had no hand in this.

Um, I believe the complain is primarily about double standards when it comes to permitting graphic violence vs sex. i.e. the MPAA objected to the puppet sex scene, but had nothing against the scenes where the puppets were set on fire or dropped off buildings.

with regards to censorship... the MPAA can effectively force censorship because of the financial (target market) implications of the ratings it gives. So if the MPAA wants something removed, all it has to do is refuse to give the more profitable age rating - as, indeed, happened in this case.

(of course, the MPAA is far from likely to be independent of government influence... especially if they're campaigning for new piracy laws, for example - "you scratch my back, i'll scratch yours")

But the issue with this is the strange dual standards in the industry vis-a-vis sex & violence. Sex - and nudity - surely is far less 'dangerous' than violence on screen, yet it is still close to tabboo.

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Oct 12, 2004, 05:42
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Re: Oct 12, 2004, 05:42
Oct 12, 2004, 05:42
 
Yeah, Australia isn't "less free" than the US. We're probably more, but it's not something that's made a big deal about. Australians aren't into "freedom" and "rights" the same way Americans are. We don't get so worked up. There are some stupid censorship debacles, but overall you can get away with a lot more here on TV, for example.

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Oct 12, 2004, 04:09
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Re: Oct 12, 2004, 04:09
Oct 12, 2004, 04:09
 
"But when parents do their job and get outraged at inappropriate content being shown to their kids, what happens? Those same advocates of parental responsibility turn around and go "What's the big deal? It's a nipple!"

If you got steemed up about a nipple being shown for 2 seconds, don't come to the UK and read some daily newspapers. They have topless girls in the page 3 everyday, I think you would have a heart attack

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Oct 12, 2004, 03:27
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Re: Oct 12, 2004, 03:27
Oct 12, 2004, 03:27
 
Carmageddon was never banned in australia we simply got one of the censored versions (zombies instead of humans) which everyone patched back to humans anyway.

Afaik the reasoning behind a lack of an R rating for computer games is because they believe interactive violence, porn, adult themes, etc may effect people in ways that a movie will not. Also its probably got a lot to do with the old "games are for kids" BS, where they simply don't realise how many adult gamers there are.

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Re: uh surrreee.
Oct 12, 2004, 01:37
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Re: uh surrreee. Oct 12, 2004, 01:37
Oct 12, 2004, 01:37
 
...I think that some sort of national service should be mandatory for all young men AND women as it is in Israel and several European countries. It would certainly make some of you degenerates much more appreciative of what freedoms you have.

So the solution to giving people their freedom is to take it away?

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sUre...
Oct 12, 2004, 00:39
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sUre... Oct 12, 2004, 00:39
Oct 12, 2004, 00:39
 
They didn't...

"The government had no hand in this."

The government made you say that... didn't they?

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Re: Amazing
Oct 12, 2004, 00:19
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Re: Amazing Oct 12, 2004, 00:19
Oct 12, 2004, 00:19
 
Yes, but America goes nuts over a nipple flash on television or swearing.

We Americans get slightly upset over nipple flashes or swearing on shows where young kids are watching... you know, like the Super Bowl. You know, it's popular to blame parents for not properly monitoring their kids (filtering their media exposure, for example). But when parents do their job and get outraged at inappropriate content being shown to their kids, what happens? Those same advocates of parental responsibility turn around and go "What's the big deal? It's a nipple!"

"Team America: World Police" = Puppet oral sex goes against grain for US censors
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1320095,00.html so it looks like you do!


Do you even understand what the MPAA is? It's an industry-created agency. It's not a government bureau. They didn't censor Team America. They (NOT THE GOVERNMENT) simply gave it a content rating based on, of all things, its content. Had the puppet sex scene been left in, the film would've been rated NC-17. So the scene was removed, the film gets rated R, and the scene gets tossed in on the DVD.

Absolutely no censorship took place. The government did not say, "Hey North Park guys, or whatever that damn show is called! NO PUPPET SEX!" The government had no hand in this.

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Re: No subject
Oct 11, 2004, 23:59
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Re: No subject Oct 11, 2004, 23:59
Oct 11, 2004, 23:59
 
meh, month or two and it will be in shops everywhere (in Aus). Even my games wizard mate is getting in some copies by xmas he thinks :).

As Ravage just mentioned, it wasn't actually banned per se, just did not fall within the classification definitions.

Guess the moral of all this seems to be, the point is to not take media word for word (Whoever it is!). CNN for example has multiple broadcasts depending on the region you are watching from. BBC does the same. They call it "relevent information".
Or that freedom has little to do with this entire thread...

now where's that coffee

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No subject
Oct 11, 2004, 22:47
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No subject Oct 11, 2004, 22:47
Oct 11, 2004, 22:47
 
LSL wasn't really "banned", it's just the result of the game being refused classification due to the fact we don't have a rating for games not deemed suitable for under 18's. If an under 18 can't play it, neither can anyone else. It's quite stupid and a lot of Australians have been complaining about it for some time.

Stuff like this probably gives the image that us Aussies are more anal than we really are.

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Re: uh surrreee.
Oct 11, 2004, 21:16
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Re: uh surrreee. Oct 11, 2004, 21:16
Oct 11, 2004, 21:16
 
You don't face hard time in America for a gram of weed. Hell, my brother was busted with an whole ounce and never spent any time in jail. And it wasn't his first offense either.

It depends on the state, people go to prison for seeds and stems here in Kansas.

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Re: uh surrreee.
Oct 11, 2004, 20:37
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Re: uh surrreee. Oct 11, 2004, 20:37
Oct 11, 2004, 20:37
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Don't be too sure about that. When you stop people returning home after finishing their tour in Iraq, you have some kind of backdoor draft going on. Read the news not covered by Fox one of these days...

This is just an overall idiotic post.

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Oct 11, 2004, 19:28
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Re: Oct 11, 2004, 19:28
Oct 11, 2004, 19:28
 
We do have porn here in Australia.... and, besides banning a stupid videogame.... we just re-voted in a prime minister who's best achievment to date is being able to look like a sick and weak chimpanzee... Even more scary, the opposition was no better....

I had no interest in this game, although I did play the original lsl. Anyone here that wants, order it from Amazon or the like. I'd bet you can buy it almost anywhere the day it comes out. My money on Harvey Normans, actually....

Only other game I recall us banning was Carmageddon and, in the end, every damn major retailer carried it anyway..

I was born in Melbourne Australia, the better half is from Gilbert Arizona and we're stuck here because of my work... I'd take the US over here anyday, and she'd take here over the US...:P Having a pissing match over who has freedom, who has better rules, who has the bigger dick.... it's all a wank.... for every plus and what it may mean to you, it's a minus for someone else. Deal with it, move on and have a nice day:) For me, I have to go find myself mental help, as I gave in last night and downloaded steam again and got the gold pack..... I'm sorry:(

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Back to the game...
Oct 11, 2004, 19:16
37.
Back to the game... Oct 11, 2004, 19:16
Oct 11, 2004, 19:16
 
As for the banning of this game, it is hypocritical for a video game to be banned when the same or worse material in another medium such as a film or magazine would not be.

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Re: uh surrreee.
Oct 11, 2004, 19:12
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Re: uh surrreee. Oct 11, 2004, 19:12
Oct 11, 2004, 19:12
 
Don't be too sure about that. When you stop people returning home after finishing their tour in Iraq, you have some kind of backdoor draft going on.
That is NOT a draft. Tours of duty may be lengthened for some military personnel, but that is FAR from a conscription of the general populace. Quite frankly, I think that some sort of national service should be mandatory for all young men AND women as it is in Israel and several European countries. It would certainly make some of you degenerates much more appreciative of what freedoms you have.

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Re: Amazing
Oct 11, 2004, 19:05
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Re: Amazing Oct 11, 2004, 19:05
Oct 11, 2004, 19:05
 
"Team America: World Police" = Puppet oral sex goes against grain for US censors
http://film.guardian.co.uk/news/story/0,12589,1320095,00.html so it looks like you do!
Actually, no, the U.S. does not censor like that. That article is about how that film was edited to receive an R rating. Even without editing the film would not have been banned in the U.S. The producers of the film simply wanted it to be available to a larger audience than an NC17 rating would have allowed. So, it was toned down to receive an R rating.

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Re: uh surrreee.
Oct 11, 2004, 19:04
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Re: uh surrreee. Oct 11, 2004, 19:04
Oct 11, 2004, 19:04
 
Don't be too sure about that. When you stop people returning home after finishing their tour in Iraq, you have some kind of backdoor draft going on. Read the news not covered by Fox one of these days...

Yes, stop watching fox news and start spouting Kerry sound bites! You seem to not understand the stoploss order. If an individual is set to leave the Army 30 days or less before his unit deploys for combat then he has to stay on. That really fucking sucks but the alternative is that you have an influx of totally fresh replacements into a unit right before heading off to the combat zone.

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Re: riiight.
Oct 11, 2004, 18:25
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Re: riiight. Oct 11, 2004, 18:25
Oct 11, 2004, 18:25
 
"Having to live next to a country that has pissed off the world so much that they have become a lightnig rod for every terrorist on earth?"

When was the last time Canada was attacked by terrorists?

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Re: No subject
Oct 11, 2004, 17:59
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Re: No subject Oct 11, 2004, 17:59
Oct 11, 2004, 17:59
 
Anybody that's pissed they can't play Leisure Suit Larry... well.

As for BBC, yeah they are (on the whole) an excellent system. The only two problems are their embarrassing political correctness (political politeness = good, BBC political correctness = cringeworthy) and their dumbed down television news. Their website is excellent, though. My homepage for many years.

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