Knights of Honor & DAEMON Tools

Knights of Honor game removes DAEMON Tools DLL-file on CD Freaks.com (thanks Tiscali Games) is a story outlining a problem a user of DAEMON Tools encountered installing the game. According to the post, installing the game deleted a DLL from this utility that's used for making backups of CDs and thwarting copy protection and such. We contacted SUNFLOWERS for their side of this story, and this is what they had to say:
Concerning your question about Knights of Honor:

Knights of Honor does not delete any DLLs.

This is caused by Daemon-Tools itself, if it is running while being unlocked.

Kind regards,
Uwe Mathon

Localisation Manager
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Re: Daemon tools
Oct 23, 2004, 17:05
nin
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Re: Daemon tools Oct 23, 2004, 17:05
Oct 23, 2004, 17:05
nin
 
Any answers?

Fixed exes...

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Daemon tools
Oct 22, 2004, 23:04
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Daemon tools Oct 22, 2004, 23:04
Oct 22, 2004, 23:04
 
So the question is, What is the software to use? I use alcohol 120% and recieve the same problems with Doom3 and Unreal 04. I want the speed of disk emulation. It is our right. They are leaving no choice but to start hacking / cracking. Any answers?

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No subject
Oct 4, 2004, 23:20
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No subject Oct 4, 2004, 23:20
Oct 4, 2004, 23:20
 
what can we do about it?? file a class action lawsuit for annoyances?

i just dont see why these corps think they can win against the pirates - its just not going to happen... ever

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 21:14
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 21:14
Oct 4, 2004, 21:14
 
all the people that liked the Blizzard vs BnetD decision better suck it up. Because stuff like this is directly related to that. Now companies could be allowed to put clauses in the EULA that would let them do anything to your computer, and if the BnetD decision isnt appealed there would be nothing you could do about it.


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No subject
Oct 4, 2004, 21:12
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No subject Oct 4, 2004, 21:12
Oct 4, 2004, 21:12
 
" Can somebody clarify for us ignernt idgits exactly what 'running while being unlocked' means"

Im guessing he is trying to say that, "write protection" attribute. ie rightclick-properties, causes the game not to load, but he then is saying it "write protection" is turned off Dameon selfdesturcts.
I'll leave you to guess how cretable that statment is

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 20:02
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 20:02
Oct 4, 2004, 20:02
 
Knights of Dishonor.

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 18:24
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 18:24
Oct 4, 2004, 18:24
 
First game I ever warezed was ThiefII. I loved it so much I sent a check for $100 to Looking Glass.

So would that be an anonymous cheque? If you just sent them a cheque with no explanation you probably caused thousands of dollars of lost productivity as they tried to figure out why they'd received it. You're probably one of the reasons they went bust.


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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 18:06
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 18:06
Oct 4, 2004, 18:06
 
I'm gonna just start dloading all warez versions and I'll send a check directly to the studio and bypass the publishers! That is if the game is any good. Maybe I'll have a sliding scale of payment rather than the zero sum game that is the video game crapshoot now.

It sucked paying $50 for Doom3 and maybe getting $25 of playtime. Bah, it's all subjective anyway.

First game I ever warezed was ThiefII. I loved it so much I sent a check for $100 to Looking Glass. Fat lot of good that did. It isn't that I can't afford video games, I just get REALLY pissed when I buy one that SUCKS.

Maybe I'm asking too much.

This comment was edited on Oct 4, 18:08.
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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 16:52
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 16:52
Oct 4, 2004, 16:52
 
Pissing off paying customers because you don't like what they have installed on the computers is a sure bet to drive a lot of people to piracy. Store bought version doesn't work? Oh well, take it back and get it CRACKED from usenet.
Doesn't ANYBODY learn from those asshats at the RIAA?

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 16:41
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 16:41
Oct 4, 2004, 16:41
 
Damn, and I wanted to snag this game. I'm not even sure it's gonna be available in the US anyway.

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 16:34
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 16:34
Oct 4, 2004, 16:34
 
New Ubisoft games all require that you do not have Deamon tools, Nero, Clone-CD, or any other programs installed that run virtual CD's.
That's not true. Myst 4 Revelation is a Ubisoft published game and it's "new" and I have daemon tools installed and was able to install myst 4 and play it without any problems.

This comment was edited on Oct 4, 16:43.
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Re: No subject
Oct 4, 2004, 16:25
nin
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Re: No subject Oct 4, 2004, 16:25
Oct 4, 2004, 16:25
nin
 
We are missing the big point here.
The game is shit.

It does amaze me that any game publisher would use a copy protection system that hurts PAYING customers. That's just dumb as hell...do they honestly believe the CP stops piracy? Or even curbs it? Why would you intentionally piss off people that PAID for the game?




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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 16:23
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 16:23
Oct 4, 2004, 16:23
 
I don't buy Ubisoft games anymore, and I tell everyone I can at the Video game store I work at not to as well

Too bad that's like half of all games. You better hope EA and Sierra don't follow suit, or you're not going to be playing anything but solitaire.

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Re: No subject
Oct 4, 2004, 16:04
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Re: No subject Oct 4, 2004, 16:04
Oct 4, 2004, 16:04
 
We are missing the big point here.
The game is shit.

This comment was edited on Oct 4, 16:05.
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No subject
Oct 4, 2004, 15:47
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No subject Oct 4, 2004, 15:47
Oct 4, 2004, 15:47
 
it means you cant install a pirated version of the game using a virtual CD mount via Daemon tools...

youd have to make physical CDs of the pirated copy instead

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for JHVH-1 is a vengeful god, and I urinate on the heads of men."
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Everybody happy in their tents and caravans
Everybody happy in their ignorance and apathy
No one realizes until the television breaks down..."

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No subject
Oct 4, 2004, 15:36
B M
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No subject Oct 4, 2004, 15:36
Oct 4, 2004, 15:36
B M
 
More Bull from a game company.
I smell a lawsuit from Demon Tools or their users.
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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 15:14
Zee
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 15:14
Oct 4, 2004, 15:14
Zee
 
New Ubisoft games all require that you do not have Deamon tools, Nero, Clone-CD, or any other programs installed that run virtual CD's. I don't buy Ubisoft games anymore, and I tell everyone I can at the Video game store I work at not to as well. Guess I'll just add these guys to the list. I really hope this does not become an industry wide trend. It would be interesting to see what the EFF would have to say about this issue.

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 15:00
JTW
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 15:00
Oct 4, 2004, 15:00
JTW
 
Can somebody clarify for us ignernt idgits exactly what 'running while being unlocked' means?

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Re: uhh
Oct 4, 2004, 14:32
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Re: uhh Oct 4, 2004, 14:32
Oct 4, 2004, 14:32
 
This is caused by Daemon-Tools itself, if it is running while being unlocked.

*sniff* *sniff*

Hmmm... what's that smell?


This comment was edited on Oct 4, 14:32.
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Daemon-Tools doesn't do this
Oct 4, 2004, 14:03
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Daemon-Tools doesn't do this Oct 4, 2004, 14:03
Oct 4, 2004, 14:03
 
Daemon-tools does not delete its own files.

I have notified the developers in Daemon-tools beta-tester forum (which is locked and hidden to all non-betatesters/developers .. don't bother looking for it) of Sunflowers response , since they might want share their side of the story too.

CeeJay
- Deamon-tools betatester

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