Theres so much to do in the game, it's impossible to get bored.

Apart from killing monsters & trade skills....what's left?

Cause some destruction by killing some NPCs or players, then all you ride out on your mounts before they realize what hit them?

They added griefing? Lovely.

Oh yeah, they also said, they are adding titles that will be given to players.

FFXI Online had this. Thing is, this is all WoW is. A bunch of ideas from other MMO's. I didn't see anything original in the game.

I also hear they want to implement a hero based thing where you can eventually become a hero character which really stands out among everyone.

Bad idea. Just like Jedi's in SWG. Everyone will want to be one, so they'll dumb it down and make it easier for everyone to become a hero. How will you stand out with a thousand other heros?

I'm not saying WoW sucks. It's actually incredibly polished and in a very solid state compared to most MMO's that have even been on the market for a few years. But I just don't see the light at the end of the tunnel everyone else sees. It's a well done game, but it seems like standard MMO fare to me.

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Before the stress test, I really had no interest in WoW whatsoever. But I signed up for the heck of it, and as it turns out, it's by far the funnest [sic] MMORPG I've ever played.


I hardly had a passing interest in WoW, and didn't give it a second glance. I too signed up for the stress test just to check it out, but came away mightily impressed. OF COURSE its not perfect no game is, but the game completely blew me away on what my preconceived ideas were. Hands down the most fun I've ever had in a MMOG. I'll be buying.

I am seeing statements like these a lot. And it speaks volumes for the game if you ask me.. considering I fall into the same category. I had pretty much figured it would be the same old thing and was dreading the thought of buying it simply to play with my friend on-line. That was before we signed up for the stress-test. Now I am very eagerly awaiting the release and may even get the collectors edition, if they would only make it clearer what the in-game items are that you get in the collectors package.

dont bother explaining the irony. he won't get it because people in europe are stupid

WoW is ok - quests are actually tasks and not very good ones at that.

For the sake of conversation, how would you improve quests if you were the designer? I'm not being critical at all; I'm just curious to hear your ideas. I completely agree that the quests generally suck and that most are completely repetative fedex quests. I've thought about it casually, and haven't come up with anything worthwhile.

Blizzard will definitely push this out the door for the end of November. The game won't be ready yet, but there's no way they'll want to miss Xmas sales.

I think it's tough to say when any game, particularly an MMORPG, is "ready" (aside from squishing at least all major bugs). Some might argue the game is already ready. There are also some things that are more-or-less just perks, which are scheduled to be implemented after release (such as Hero classes). The main thing I'd like to see before the game is released is full and balanced talents. But other than that, I'm ready to pay money to play NOW, as I'd expect are most people who have played the game.

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You must be kidding. I couldn't give a rat's ass about WoW, nor any other MMORPG.

How ironic. You stereotyped Americans into the "fat, tasteless" category and I stereotyped Europeans into the "loves mmorpgs" category.

Moral of the story? If you say something idiotic you should expect an idiotic response.

I hardly had a passing interest in WoW, and didn't give it a second glance. I too signed up for the stress test just to check it out, but came away mightily impressed. OF COURSE its not perfect no game is, but the game completely blew me away on what my preconceived ideas were. Hands down the most fun I've ever had in a MMOG. I'll be buying.

Blizzard will definitely push this out the door for the end of November. The game won't be ready yet, but there's no way they'll want to miss Xmas sales.

Oh yes because we ALL know how Blizzard just loves to rush their products!

Ahhh jealousy at its finest. If the shoe was on the other foot, I am certain that the fat, tasteless europeans would gladly consume this game even if it were released 3 months ago.


You must be kidding. I couldn't give a rat's ass about WoW, nor any other MMORPG.

WoW is ok - quests are actually tasks and not very good ones at that. I'll probably end up playing it at least untill DDO starts.

Blizzard will definitely push this out the door for the end of November. The game won't be ready yet, but there's no way they'll want to miss Xmas sales.


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vivendi has always been very bad when it comes to release dates.
especially with blizzard products, even when theyve claimed a "world wide release date"

With Valve & Blizzard, Vivendi has absolutely no say in the release dates, the developers have been empowered (or demnnded and received the power) to set the date when it is done.

I have no idea where you got the idea that there's almost no one left from the "original" Blizzard.

Yes, several of the top-brass executives left to start their own gaming company, but it wasn't a giant exodus that you seem to make it out to be.

Second, have you ever heard of the term "expanding a company"? Obviously not. Blizzard is developing a MMORPG, and has another unannounced project in the works. Did it ever occur to you that Blizzard would need to expand its employees in order to accomodate a "live team" that would be responsible for creating new content after the game goes live?

Blizzard is not gone. Blizzard North is not gone. Every Blizzard game produced is critically acclaimed for sound reasons: the games they make are fun, polished, and complete. I'm completely boggled where you got your ideas from, and what on earth made you jump to the conclusions that you made

I was interested when it was first announced, but after reading all the faqs and beta impressions, it sounds really really boring. [...] it sounds like your typical leveling treadmill.

Before the stress test, I really had no interest in WoW whatsoever. But I signed up for the heck of it, and as it turns out, it's by far the funnest MMORPG I've ever played. I'm not sure whose beta impressions you're reading, but everything I've read has been as positive as my experience in the stress test was.

I've been completely unimpressed with the MMORPG genre to date, even after beta testing about 8-10 different MMORPGs. But WoW... despite having what I would say is fairly typical mechanics as far as leveling goes, and typical fedex-type quests, is incredibly fun to play. I'd urge you to at least check out the beta when it goes open.

mmorpgs need to become more team-oriented

I think a good MMORPG should be able to accomodate different play-styles. It should be equally fun for those who prefer to solo and those who prefer to group. From what I've played, WoW at least offers a good balance between the two. (As an aside, I've never understood why some people think it strange or stupid that some prefer to solo in MMORPGs. I see nothing strange about people playing the way they want to.)

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Um, YOU may think it's a different Blizzard just because some people left. Though we still clearly have talent left behind. WoW is the greatest MMORPG out at the moment(as far as polished and perfecting the gameplay). They still release updates regularily to Wc3. Say what you want, Blizzard is still one hell of a company that gives back to the fans even more than they need to. EQ2 is all graphics,and that's it. IMO, EQ2 has a realistic boring look with no style. WoW has a really cartoony, dreamy look(at least with the new Bloom effect in the latest patch). I prefer WoW over Eq2 anyday. Can't wait for it's release. Oh and BTW-Europeans don't consume McDonalds like the U.S. Watch who your calling fat, fatty.

Oh ya, Steele Johnson. I've been in the beta since April and there isn't one day I don't play WoW. It must be really repetitive eh? Theres so much to do in the game, it's impossible to get bored. Not to mention raiding is the most fun I've had in a game like this. Just imagine, you and a group of buddies hit over lvl 40 which allows you to buy mounts. Now you guys in like a pack of 10 or so can ride over to the enemy land. Cause some destruction by killing some NPCs or players, then all you ride out on your mounts before they realize what hit them? In the future patch they adding catapults and siege weapons as well. It's going to be great. This beta is a small taste. Oh yeah, they also said, they are adding titles that will be given to players. So lets say you do real good protecting a land. You will be given the title, Protector of the Land, etc. I also hear they want to implement a hero based thing where you can eventually become a hero character which really stands out among everyone. I think they are going to add the glow under your character as in Wc3. Not much has been told about that yet. www.worldofwarcraft.com answers everything I think.


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Ahhh jealousy at its finest. If the shoe was on the other foot, I am certain that the fat, tasteless europeans would gladly consume this game even if it were released 3 months ago.

Yep, and the US-Americans would bitch and moan and call the Europeans names.

I'm not looking forward to this game anymore. I was interested when it was first announced, but after reading all the faqs and beta impressions, it sounds really really boring. Even EQ2 sounds much better than this. All Blizzard games are incredibly repetitive... and I'm sure this one is not going to be any different.

mmorpgs need to become more team-oriented, and it looks like EQ2 will accomplish that. WoW, well... it sounds like your typical leveling treadmill.

Or it could be that the industry knows fat, tasteless Americans will consume anything, so it subjects them to an extended beta-testing period before releasing a polished product to a more discerning customer base.

Ahhh jealousy at its finest. If the shoe was on the other foot, I am certain that the fat, tasteless europeans would gladly consume this game even if it were released 3 months ago.

I don't really care who is financing the games. If it is a good game... it's a good game.

Having said that, I thought I would never buy another MMORPG. After being bored by the others within months or weeks after purchase.

I hope WoW will be different. It sure seems to feel different while playing the stress-test-beta. Not sure what it is because it has everything the other have yet it just seemed much more fun.

While playing by myself, with a friend or while grouped the game just had me hooked. I was playing for roughly six hours straight when they pulled the plug at the end of the stress-test.

I plan on getting back in the game as soon as possible... this Holiday Season is going to be a great one. Even though all you Nay Sayers are predicting the end of the world as we know it....

and that´s why we will all play guildwars. (developed by a few of those top ex-blizzard guys)

hype the company to heaven, then they´re getting bought too, top guys leaving etc.

repeat.

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Sad as it is that the original developers at Blizzard are gone, if World of Warcraft is any indication, Blizzard will be around for a long time to come. WoW is going to make them a ton of money.

People still talk about Blizzard like it is Blizzard. It is not.

Money guys bought Blizzard. They told the top guys "No you don't get no bonuses". Then they gave themselves bonuses. The top Blizzard guys left.

Then they had a mass firing in which they dumped the guys who made Diable and Starcraft. They cost too much. Then they replaced them with college graduates at 15,000 or so a year. Slave labor.

Then they spent the next year or so hiring more and more people to try to make up for the effects of firing all the old Blizzard people. Look here on Blues. There are about 10 or so Blizzard job postings over the past year.

Blizzard is gone. A bunch of money vultures took over a profitable company. They will make money off of it as long as people are still fooled it is the old Blizzard company. When they are finished milking the money, and all Blizzard fans leave because they see Blizzard is no longer Blizzard, they will sell of the company or close it as a tax writeoff.

Won't happen for maybe 5 years. It will take that long for people to accept that Blizzard is gone and money vultures are behind Blizzard games now.

Sort of like the 5 years where Valve fanbois went from adulation to "D&&& Valve for lying to us about release dates". Or the 5 years for people to go from saying "Id is the best" to "Doom 3 sucks donkey testicles".