3DMark05 Released

3DMark05 has been officially released, the latest version of FutureMark's popular benchmark. The FutureMark website is fairly hosed at the moment, but the 283 MB download is mirrored on 3D Downloads, Daily Rush, FileFront, Filerush (torrent), FileShack (registration required), Games-Fusion, Gameguru Mania, JustGamers, and MajorGeeks. There are articles on the new version on accelenation, bit-tech.net, Bjorn3d, The Tech Report, TweakTown, and X-bit labs.
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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 22:56
60.
Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 22:56
Sep 30, 2004, 22:56
 
Athlon Xp 2500+ at around 3100+
1 gig ram dual channel
6800nu clocked to 400/900
drivers 66.77

My score is 3870

Though, I think I had the driver settings at quality (default) instead of high-quality. So I'll need to rerun it.

I also have a emachine 6805, but probably not worth running it.

This comment was edited on Sep 30, 22:57.
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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 17:46
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Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 17:46
Sep 30, 2004, 17:46
 

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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 16:43
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Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 16:43
Sep 30, 2004, 16:43
 
Well this score is from an emachines 6809:

Specs:
+Athlon 64 3200+
+64MB 9600 mobility (don't know if its a pro, I am using the sipping drivers, so they are old...maybe 4.2s...)
+512MB PC-2700

My score for the 3dmark test was 847. And my CPU Mark score was 3014. My old ORB account is under a defunct email address so I'm working on getting my results posted online.

Thoughts:
I really like the proxycon demo and hope developers pay attention. I 100% agree with ray on the Doom3 comment. Doom3 was soooo cramped. Had they opened things up more...


Anyway, thats my thoughts...

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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 12:36
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Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 12:36
Sep 30, 2004, 12:36
 
Yeah, this is really, really video card heavy...god that airship demo is incredible though, and some of it ran near 15fps too.

Athlon 3000XP (Barton) @ 3420
Radeon 9800Pro 128
1 Gig RAM

2150 3dmarks
0 FPS on the CPU test - what the hell kind of CPUs are they expecting to come out that will run that one? 10-20GHZ?!
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Re: You and your 0
Sep 30, 2004, 08:57
56.
Re: You and your 0 Sep 30, 2004, 08:57
Sep 30, 2004, 08:57
 
Actually I did all the research, I had $400 or so to spend.

I had a 1.3Ghz + GF4. I scored ohh, 1300 in 3DMark03.
My buddy had the same, but spent the $400 on CPU and MB to get him into a 3Ghz Intel (800 bus) and with the same GF4 he scored a 1500, yeah w00t great upgrade.

As you read, when I installed my 6800GT I went from that 1300 or so up to 8700. In terms of gaming it seems I made the better decision with their money.

Both boxes side by side, I can crank out twice the FPS on my 1.3ghz (4x agp) than he can on his new 3Ghz....

Doom3, 1024x768 @ high, 4AA - 20-60FPS.
SWBF, 1024x768 @ high, 4AA - 50-60FPS.
Farcry, 1024x768 @ high, 2AA - 30FPS.

- One happy Camper -
I even email you the report I put together for my clan, it's in your mail box now....

SSE did not arrive from AMD until the XP serries was out and the revision on my ASUS can not handle the upgrade.


Happy to email anyone else the results also.
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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 03:46
55.
Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 03:46
Sep 30, 2004, 03:46
 
I got bored and tried the different methods to see if there was much difference (there was not...) Ignore the overclocking comments; 3DMark just has issues with reporting the clocks correctly, though I have no idea why it varies from PS method to PS method. Tomorrow...er...later today, I will hunt down the latest drivers and make sure I am up to date. Other than the one low 4K score, the rest all hover around 4.2K.

2.0/2.0:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=22993

2.a/2.a:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=22334

2.a/2.b:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=21975

3.0/3.0:
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm05=21713

Random thoughts:
  • These are already running "well" for the first generation of cards. It took a 9800xt for the (first) Proxycon demo to even have viewable framerates and it took a 6800GT for Proxycon to run very well. If the next generation has the same step up in performance, much less two or three generations from now, gamers will be in for a treat
  • The new Proxycon demo makes me hate Doom 3 all that much more. Just imagine a Doom 3 with open levels, fast paced action, a world to play in, LIGHT, etc.
  • That big 'ol chaingun thingie, the way it sparks, makes me want F.E.A.R. all that much more.
  • Damn it, why are there not more games with larger, open levels and brighter colors!?!
  • Though not a biggie, I do miss the sound tests. How else can I see how bad Creative's products are? :D
  • The mountain face and grass tests are neato-freato, though the grass one is a bit too hectic; there is so much chaotic movement that it almost seems like there is a layer of video noise on everything.
  • http://www.the-inquirer.com/?article=18734
  • http://www.the-inquirer.com/?article=18763
Damn, I never did get around to install Myst IV
Still needing to check out the demo option...,
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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 01:28
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Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 01:28
Sep 30, 2004, 01:28
 
Interesting results:

With a BFG 6800GT, Athlon 2700+ and 1 gig RAM, I can get 3924. You can tell that the video card makes the difference, because the CPU tests choke hard ...

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Re: My score
Sep 30, 2004, 01:16
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Re: My score Sep 30, 2004, 01:16
Sep 30, 2004, 01:16
 
My setup:

AXP 2500+
5700 Ultra
1 GB RAM
DFI Ultra Infinity

My score: 721



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My score
Sep 30, 2004, 01:05
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My score Sep 30, 2004, 01:05
Sep 30, 2004, 01:05
 
Running with an Athlon 64 3200+, GeForce 6800GT and 1GB RAM, I got around 3800 in 3DMark2005. Is this bad? When I used the online results browser to see other people's results using Athlon 64's, 6800GT's and 1GB RAM, people were scoring as high as 6200 or so.

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Re: Scored a 0
Sep 30, 2004, 00:18
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Re: Scored a 0 Sep 30, 2004, 00:18
Sep 30, 2004, 00:18
 
I'm d'ing now and will try it on my AMD64 3200+ laptop & 9600Pro .

At least its under 300MB...

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Re: Scored a 0
Sep 29, 2004, 21:04
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Re: Scored a 0 Sep 29, 2004, 21:04
Sep 29, 2004, 21:04
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In short, it's a false test. A couple of the tests in 3DMark03 still run waaaay worse for me than real, actual better-looking games (say, Doom 3, or Far Cry, or the EQ2 beta) - games that have actual interactive gameplay, instead of just a demo loop. Given that, why would I (or anyone else) rely on 3DMark?

Mark 2001 had a playable car game, and it was quite fun. And the updated one rendered the Matrix lobby scene using the Max Payne engine. A game engine. A real, playable game engine.

Course... that was 2001. This is 2005.

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Re: Scored a 0
Sep 29, 2004, 20:51
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Re: Scored a 0 Sep 29, 2004, 20:51
Sep 29, 2004, 20:51
 
The benchmark is set at 1024 x 768 I believe, and no anti aliasing. Not sure about AF though.

I ran it on the following system:
p4 3 gig
2 gigs of Ram
ATI 9800 XT Pro 256

I saw single digits a lot of the time, with it barely creeping into the mid teens. Got a score of around 2500 or so. Damn! But I have to say the demos are pretty as hell. I wasn't as impressed with the first one but the 2nd and 3rd ones almost looked like CG.

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Re: Scored a 0
Sep 29, 2004, 20:30
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Re: Scored a 0 Sep 29, 2004, 20:30
Sep 29, 2004, 20:30
 
34. Scored a 0 Sep 29, 16:04 Syphon

Welp, my box:

AMD 1.33GHz AXIA
eVga 6800 GT
1GB PC2100

3DMark03 - 8700+ pts
3DMark05 - 0 pts

Upon install I get the error:

The CPU of this system does not support SSE instructions.
This system cannot run 3DMark05. Please abort installation.

-bummer-

Gotta love that ... a processor worth $30 coupled with a $400 video card

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Re: Ouch!
Sep 29, 2004, 20:12
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Re: Ouch! Sep 29, 2004, 20:12
Sep 29, 2004, 20:12
 
Since we can't change the settings without buying this one (and there is no way in hell I will ever pay for a benchmark program), have the stuck the settings at something stupid, like 8XAA, 16XAF? Is that why it runs like excrement on everyone's systems? Or is it set in a sane manner and STILL runs slow, because it's just that pretty? Just curious because my download was corrupt and now I have to choose between downloading this and downloading the new T:V demo....
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Re: Ouch!
Sep 29, 2004, 19:53
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Re: Ouch! Sep 29, 2004, 19:53
Sep 29, 2004, 19:53
 
My 3200+ XP o/cd to 2445 mhz, and my 5950 Ultra GS Sample o/cd to 545 core, and 1001 memory, was just brought to its knees by this benchmark. lol I was lucky enough to get a few meagre points over 1400.

Something definitely wrong with your system.

Athlon XP2800+ (OC'd to 3000)
1gig DDR400 Ram
WinXP SP2 DirectX 9.0c
Asus A7N8x Deluxe MB
Seagate SATA 120gig 7200rpm
Leadtek GeForce 6800GT 256mb

and I scored 3504 with 3dmark05 and around 10550 with 3dmark03.

I spent most of my time looking at single digit frame rates. I haven't seen that kinda thing since '96. I'm curious to see what everyone else scored in '05. I got a 3,213.

What people need to realize is the first 3 tests are for your GPU (video card). The next 2 tests, the ones that run at just a couple FPS are CPU tests and dont use your graphics card at all.


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Ouch!
Sep 29, 2004, 19:27
45.
Ouch! Sep 29, 2004, 19:27
Sep 29, 2004, 19:27
 
My FX-53 Athlon 64 and Radeon X800 just *yawned* through 3dmark03 (I score around 10,400k), but man '05 is like a kick to the nuts. I spent most of my time looking at single digit frame rates. I haven't seen that kinda thing since '96. I'm curious to see what everyone else scored in '05. I got a 3,213.

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Re: AYE HACE T3H LUB...
Sep 29, 2004, 19:19
44.
Re: AYE HACE T3H LUB... Sep 29, 2004, 19:19
Sep 29, 2004, 19:19
 
Doom 3 cant touch return to proxycon on 3DMark05

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Re: AYE HACE T3H LUB...
Sep 29, 2004, 19:14
43.
Re: AYE HACE T3H LUB... Sep 29, 2004, 19:14
Sep 29, 2004, 19:14
 
Crunching the card is the best way to widen the difference between one slightly worse card and one slightly better. I guess the point is to accentuate the performance difference.

If they developed scalable engines then it would muddy the results, running lower detailed demos for older cards and boosting their performance. One guy with one 9600 may get 120fps everywhere but will have absolutely no point of reference to compare to other cards and with no knowledge of the image quality to expect from an upgrade.

Making the image quality as good as the cards can render singles out the performance as a specific point of reference that can be looked up and compared.

Personally, I just like the pretty graphics but I do check scores when it comes to spending money; but not just 3dMark

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Re: AYE HACE T3H LUB...
Sep 29, 2004, 18:55
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Re: AYE HACE T3H LUB... Sep 29, 2004, 18:55
Sep 29, 2004, 18:55
 
The problem with 3DMark, and other graphic benchmarks, is that none of the engines used are optimised. They simply chuck as many polygons and other effects at the card as is humanely possible, bringing it to its knees.

Real game engines DO NOT do this. Take the third test in 3DMark05. It looks amazing. It runs like crap. And that's because it's not an entire engine, it's just one small demo with unoptimised code designed for special effects. They don't design engines, they design demos. It's doing everything at full detail, all of the time, and real games just don't do that. They can't, if they need to be playable.

The devs at Futuremark don't have to worry about LOD, mipmapping, AI, net code or anything else - and all that means it's not in the least indicative of how a real game would render things.

In short, it's a false test. A couple of the tests in 3DMark03 still run waaaay worse for me than real, actual better-looking games (say, Doom 3, or Far Cry, or the EQ2 beta) - games that have actual interactive gameplay, instead of just a demo loop. Given that, why would I (or anyone else) rely on 3DMark?

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AYE HACE T3H LUB...
Sep 29, 2004, 17:40
41.
AYE HACE T3H LUB... Sep 29, 2004, 17:40
Sep 29, 2004, 17:40
 
...FORE T3H 3DMRAK05!111111111

I can:

  • Look at the pur'dy demos.
  • Get a rough idea of the performance of future games.
  • Easily compare changes made to my system.
  • Play "Who has the biggest E-Penis with friends.

Edit: Though, I achieve only a meager 4181 points with my (Barton) XP3200 and 6800GT. Oh well, I have a complete system overhaul planned for the end of January. w00t

Most using the first and third reasons,
Ray

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