I meant liberal as in not following the letter of the law (a liberal interpretation of something) as opposed to strictly adhering to commonly accepted interpretations - thanks for pointing it out, I didn't mean to impose politics into this discussion (and tried to use humor on Halsy). I did mention "Bushco", but only as a response, and didn't go into details.

OK, OK, almost 100 posts without politics. Happy now?


*************
* Warhawk *
*************

The new Quake-43 game blows my mind. It is even better than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher.
Doom 3

WOOT - 100 posts without politics. Everyone gets a gold star for the day.

I'm not sure you can say that when just before you said:

The CA 9th Circuit is NOTORIOUS for issuing bad (liberal) rulings

Not that I care, but that seems close enough for me.

Well,

Being a Viking from the North and everything, I still think it's prudent for every Cat to have a Viking Cat Door!

Yes! That's right. A true way for your Cat to travel from Valhallha and the nether reagions outdoors without undoe drafts! I didn't mean drahpgts of beer of course, just those a cursed ungodldy cat drafts. Quit going outside Cat!

Okay. I meant, Go Ahead Young Cat Viking Goddess or Whatever, but shut the ghastly Door! Please!

And after your Not Alive And I join you in The Halls of Vallhalllhah and all that, just can we not get a cat love, pulease?

Yes! Yes! Yes you Cat. I mean Can! For a few mere drachmas, a cat door can be yours. It only takes a few minutes talking to our wingliess druids and all can be yours.

Our Cat doors are both Impervious to Gods and cats too! Well, I mean the Cat's can come in and go out and come in and go out and scrunch up your leg and beg for forgivness and all that but they let the drafts go. And the Gods too!

I mead the draghst flow, I meant the beer. Darnit! I meant the cat's don't piss you off so much when you're a bicycling. I meant a Viking, DAMN itr. Arrrg. Billy. Where's my fart.

I meant flufff. I meant. Where's the freaking cat. AAAAHHHHHHHrrrrg.

Arnyhows, when the cat darse whislte, the Gods won't come, so there's no daft ferkrs in de house no more, it's great. The Gadt Dour 2000, only for catdz. I mean cats. Buiy wun nuw.

Am I in trouble yet?


Viking Cat Door 2000, ONLY IN VikMart. Get One Today.
Made for Vikings, Built for Idiots.

1262.2. Caught two mines on the first bounce.

WOOT - 100 posts without politics. Everyone gets a gold star for the day.




*************
* Warhawk *
*************

The new Quake-43 game blows my mind. It is even better than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher.
Doom 3

94 posts and into the home stretch with no political comments...

im sure one day we can actually go a full day without them.

that penguin game is addictive.

------
Stop the Politics posts
Say NO to WAR themed comments
DOWN WITH BUSH ... is just an inflammatory remark, designed to provoke a response, ignore the trolls
STOP POLLUTING This message board with dumb political comments

I'm also sure that the woman accusing Kobe Bryant of rape felt protected by the laws there to protect rape victims when the JUDGE/COURT released her name and allowed discussion of her sexual history (both of which are against the law in that jurisdiction) during the pretrial hearings. I'm not saying he's guilty, but she sure got the raw end of the deal in her dealings with that court.


*************
* Warhawk *
*************

The new Quake-43 game blows my mind. It is even better than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher.
Doom 3

What rights and where does it show that exactly?

Well for one:

http://www.klaaskids.org/pg-legvr.htm

Which technically may not be a "loss" of victim's rights but an example of the rights of the criminal trumping the right of the victim to ensure a fair sentence is served.

I know that in a town near where I live the DA decided against charging recent vandalism as a hate crime, reducing the charges. That is a situation where the victim's rights were obviously diminished.

http://www.californiaaggie.com/article/?id=5289

There are also activist judges reducing sentencing mandated by California's 3-Strikes laws, as well as in other situations, weakening the victim's chances of obtaining fair punishment from habitual felon offenders.

http://www.law.com/jsp/pubarticleCA.jsp?id=1052440794273

Here's a quote:

In 1992, he was the key figure in the Ninth Circuit's repeated refusals to allow the execution of Robert Alton Harris to proceed. Eventually, the Supreme Court told the Ninth Circuit to stop issuing orders in the case.

"Judge Pregerson was openly defiant of the Supreme Court, so he's got a vision of precedent that is slightly different" from most, said Hastings College of the Law professor Vikram Amar.

And during his 1979 confirmation hearing after being nominated by President Jimmy Carter, Pregerson said, "If I had to follow my conscience or the law, I would follow my conscience," according to the Los Angeles Times.

"It's not good for the justice system for a judge to disobey the Supreme Court. Even though people may agree with him, we risk legal anarchy if judges refuse to follow Supreme Court precedent"

Great, judges who advocate ingoring the law, when they are supposed to uphold it. Just what we need.

The CA 9th Circuit is NOTORIOUS for issuing bad (liberal) rulings and being overturned upon appeal.

Few understand the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals, its all- encompassing power, or its influence upon society and their daily lives. Hopefully, after reading this article, eyes will be opened and concern will be generated to concentrate their effort to bring about change in the Ninth Circuit.

The author of this article, an expert on Ninth Circuit corruption, is well qualified to write on this subject, having had years of experience with them.

As a practical matter, the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals is the final court of recourse, setting all policies affecting everyone within the western half of the United States. Only in theory is the United States Supreme Court a court to which one may appeal Ninth Circuit decisions. While it does have power to overturn Ninth Circuit decisions, it seldom occurs; but when it does, the Ninth Circuit is known to ignore and even defy Supreme Court decisions reversing them.

http://www.caught.net/calif/9thenemy.htm

Also:

In the pantheon of liberal jurisprudence, there are few courts that can hold a candle to the Florida supreme court, which, during the fateful 2000 election, acted as if it was uniquely empowered to rewrite Florida election law from the bench. There is one court, however, that will not give up its title as the most-liberal and most-reversed court in the country so easily. Such titles must be earned over time, and this court, which has worked long and hard to truly deserve this title, will not be supplanted by such a relative newcomer. I am speaking, of course, of the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals — a court which Monday issued a temporary injunction postponing California's recall election based on a clear misapplication of the U.S. Supreme Court's Bush v. Gore decision.

Court watchers were not surprised by this outcome. The day that the panel of judges selected to hear this case was announced, many on both the left and the right believed the decision was foregone. After all, the panel includes Judge Pregerson, who, following the Supreme Court's decision upholding California's three-strikes law, issued a series of dissents stating that he cannot apply the three-strikes law in good conscience. Judge Pregerson makes no attempt to distinguish the cases in which he dissents from the case decided in a contrary fashion by the United States Supreme Court. He does not even attempt to apply a legal rationale for his dissent. Rather, he asserts his own will in place of the legislature which wrote the law, and the United States Supreme Court, which declared that specific law to be constitutional.

Then there is Judge Thomas, who gained notoriety recently for authoring the decision which, by applying a procedural rule retroactively, has the potential to overturn more than 100 capital cases. Judge Thomas issued this decision despite the fact that every other circuit (including, ironically, the Ninth Circuit) had previously found that the principle of law that he on relies does not apply retroactively.

Finally there is Judge Paez, who referred to California's Proposition 209 — a popularly enacted civil-rights initiative which prohibited the use of race as a factor in admissions to state universities — as an "anti-civil rights initiative." Conveniently, the question presented to the court of the whether election may go forward in October affects not only the recall, but the Racial Privacy Initiative sponsored by Ward Connerly. As luck would have it, Mr. Connerly was also the sponsor of Paez's favorite: Prop. 209.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/comment-alt091603.asp

There's a few examples for you and an elaboration about why, in California, even the laws on the books are not safe due to the appeals court we have.

You should be grateful we live in a society where innocent untill proven guilty is the rule of law and habeas corpus exists, not the other way around (and sadly, that is becoming the case under Bushco).

Ok, I like your "blanket statement" with no proof to back it up. Give me an example of one of your rights specifically removed by "Bushco" that has impacted you personally. Give me some examples that were not just an isolated case here and there, because I'm *sure* cases of an individual's rights being temporarily violated NEVER happened before Bush got into office. No, siree, never happened. Those were the "good old days", when evryone was rich and there was no unrest in the world, but then Bush came along and ruined it all. Yep, that's got to be it.




*************
* Warhawk *
*************

The new Quake-43 game blows my mind. It is even better than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher.
Doom 3


This comment was edited on Sep 13, 23:44.

I live in CA - you know I'd get sued by SOMEONE no matter who was at fault

Eh, probably. But you'd probably get sued anywhere -- and most reasonable juries (and, frankly, most juries are reasonable) would laugh the guy out of court... if it even made it that far.

Here (Atlanta, GA) we had a situation a few months ago where a high speed chase resulted in the perpetrator hitting the dividing wall on I-285 (encircles the center of Atlanta). Guy didn't have a seatbelt on. Some poor bastards on the other side of the highway ran over him.

No lawsuits were ever filed.

Sad to say, but I'm not surprised. Recent history seems to show an increased protection of the "rights" of the criminal instead of the victim.

What rights and where does it show that exactly? I'm always curious when people make blanket statements like that how they qualify it exactly. Sort of like how people go on about the "good ol' days", which really weren't all that good at all, they just get polished and glossed over with memory. You should be grateful we live in a society where innocent untill proven guilty is the rule of law and habeas corpus exists, not the other way around (and sadly, that is becoming the case under Bushco).


"We only came to kick some ass. Rock the fuckin' house and kick some ass."
- Tenacious D

I could go on and on

Oh please God NO!!!



-------------------------------------------------------
What the hell, it's 5:00 somewhere.

surely justice isn't served when a moron breaking the law falls off of a bridge due to his own stupidity (while colliding with a pedestrian himself, and yes he got the ticket too with no demerits however), gets hit by a car, and successfully sues the guy in the car who happened to be in the wrong place in the wrong time

Sad to say, but I'm not surprised. Recent history seems to show an increased protection of the "rights" of the criminal instead of the victim.


*************
* Warhawk *
*************

The new Quake-43 game blows my mind. It is even better than Super Turbo Turkey Puncher.
Doom 3

Personal Experience: A friend and I were driving down a pseudo-freeway (70km/h limit (45 mph for imperially inclined)), over which a pedestrian bridge spanned. Some guy on a bicycle (against the law on a pedestrian bridge) crashed into a pedestrian on the bridge, and himself fell off of the bridge onto the shoulder of the sort-of freeway. While getting himself up, we hit him on the hand with the mirror. Net result? Colliding with a Pedestrian ticket, many demerits, huge insurance premium rise, and a civil suit added in for fun - by the law-breaking cyclist. Sure his hand was shattered utterly, but surely justice isn't served when a moron breaking the law falls off of a bridge due to his own stupidity (while colliding with a pedestrian himself, and yes he got the ticket too with no demerits however), gets hit by a car, and successfully sues the guy in the car who happened to be in the wrong place in the wrong time.

Guess you shouldn't have stopped with JUST his hand. Aim for the head (specifically his mouth) next time, will you?

Sorry to hear that, but couldn't resist, either.

Don't try this at home. Don't try this when you're alone. Don't try this at home. You're gonna hurt yourself. http://www.laptopic.com

ray,

why do u hate all games that come out now?

Also, does anyone wonder, like me, what ever happened to Kurt Warner?

I believe the technical term is 'shell-shocked'.

I guess if he was behind a legendary O-line he could be competent now. Too bad there really aren't any legendary O-lines without QBs around right now.

He should hang it up and let the kid take the hits. Worked wonders for Aikman.

-TPFKAS2S
http://www.braglio.com

http://www.shamings.com

I've been reading the reviews of the Sims 2 that just came out and some features the IGN and Gamespy have been running. The game sounds damn funny. I haven't paid attention to it at all but I think I may have to get it. It looks like you can have some real fun with it. A lot of little improvements over the original. Maybe I'm being swindled again (the first game got boring after a few days for me) but it sounds promising.

Word of caution: don't go exclusively by IGN/Gamespy's reviews. 1.) its the same company. 2.) its been strongly suggested that their reviews (especially out of the IGN end) tends to be a little TOO accomodating to companies such as EA and other large pub houses.

Gamespot usually has some pretty dependable reviews but in the end, nothing is as accurate as word of mouth from people you know in forums like this or elsewhere.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
What Would Fred Do?

1149 !!!

Does the Giants' offensive line even deserve that title? Or should it simply be referred to as Swiss, for example?

Also, does anyone wonder, like me, what ever happened to Kurt Warner? I can understand that he's a bit shaky, it's been over a year and a half since he played this long (without a concussion), but still, there are times when he looks like the old Warner, and then he just switches into "oh my God, what the hell am I doing??" mode, and gets clobbered and looks like a Vinny Testaverde / Jake Plummer hybrid. And not in a good way.

Ah Superbowl MVP Kurt, how we miss thee...

Creston

Put on a show, and you will attract the audience who wants to see the show - not the audience you secretly hope will be watching.

A true statement if ever I saw one.

" don't know what state you live in, but in most if you hit a pedestrian in the road (not on the sidewalk/off the road/crosswalk) and stop (e.g. - not hit and run) then you are at no fault whatsoever. "
If you live in Communist Canada, you should know that you are Always At Fault when you hit a pedestrian, no matter what measure of screw head the pedestrian is being at the time of impact.

Personal Experience: A friend and I were driving down a pseudo-freeway (70km/h limit (45 mph for imperially inclined)), over which a pedestrian bridge spanned. Some guy on a bicycle (against the law on a pedestrian bridge) crashed into a pedestrian on the bridge, and himself fell off of the bridge onto the shoulder of the sort-of freeway. While getting himself up, we hit him on the hand with the mirror. Net result? Colliding with a Pedestrian ticket, many demerits, huge insurance premium rise, and a civil suit added in for fun - by the law-breaking cyclist. Sure his hand was shattered utterly, but surely justice isn't served when a moron breaking the law falls off of a bridge due to his own stupidity (while colliding with a pedestrian himself, and yes he got the ticket too with no demerits however), gets hit by a car, and successfully sues the guy in the car who happened to be in the wrong place in the wrong time.

GOD DAMN I LOVE CANADA SOMETIMES

Vote for Bush and find out