Deus Ex and Thief Plans

A Rob Dyer Q&A on 1UP from earlier in the week (thanks Eurogamer.net) has word from the former Eidos president (who recently joined Crave as president and COO) on future plans for both the Thief series and the Deus Ex series:
We're going to try to get more of a consumer focus into our games. Deus Ex: Invisible War was a good game with solid reviews, but not enough people bought it. We'll fix that in the future. There definitely will be a Deus Ex 3. People want another Thief, too. We'll make that series more modern, though...the medieval thing's run its course. The coming year will bring some really new, innovative titles, plus comebacks from many brands gamers are already familiar with.
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Re: Console Games
Aug 28, 2004, 00:41
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Re: Console Games Aug 28, 2004, 00:41
Aug 28, 2004, 00:41
 
riiight, because the very two PC-GAME series we're talking about didn't make money, weren't innovative nor had good gameplay while having GREAT (dark engine? lol) graphics.

I'm lost here, im assuming you are trying to be sarcastic by the amount of i's, but what you said is obvious.

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Re: No subject
Aug 28, 2004, 00:30
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Re: No subject Aug 28, 2004, 00:30
Aug 28, 2004, 00:30
 
you know, if they want to make their Splinter Cell rip-off, (my god, a rip-off of a rip-off, its come full circle...) and make it modern day so they can put guns and other "cool" stuff, slap out some box art with the main character on the front in some threatening gangsta pose (*cough*IW*caugh*) shoving a gun in our faces, go ahead.

Just don't call it "THIEF" because its not.
Talk about pissing on someone's grave.

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Re: No subject
Aug 28, 2004, 00:27
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Re: No subject Aug 28, 2004, 00:27
Aug 28, 2004, 00:27
 
Holy crap. 0_o

I can't believe they'd move Thief to a different setting... Holy crap. Are they just trying to go the "no press is bad press" route and piss everyone off for attention?

Holy crap. Besides, I woudln't even consider Thief as medieval. It was totally steampunk with a great, unique twist, and that is why it stands out as a great world and game. If this moron thought it was "medieval" in the first place then he obviously needs to check himself. What a fucking moron... holy crap...

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Re: No subject
Aug 28, 2004, 00:25
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Aug 28, 2004, 00:25
 
Well aside from the modern day Thief comment the rest of the interview seemed pretty good. Sounds like he really wanted to strike a balance between the EA model and the indie developer that never finishes a game because it doesn't understand business. While I agree that Thief in it's current incarnation has run it's course I do have to wonder what the hell he was thinking when he suggested that it should be modern day.

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Re: Console Games
Aug 28, 2004, 00:23
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Re: Console Games Aug 28, 2004, 00:23
Aug 28, 2004, 00:23
 
"You mean besides money,inovation,gameplay etc etc..

But consoles will always have worse graphics! AND GRAPHICS ARE ALL THAT MATTER RIGHT?

right? "


riiight, because the very two PC-GAME series we're talking about didn't make money, weren't innovative nor had good gameplay while having GREAT (dark engine? lol) graphics.

I'm the one amazed here. . .

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Aug 28, 2004, 00:19
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Aug 28, 2004, 00:19
nin
 

"...the medieval thing's run its course"

WTF? Thief without a medieval setting is NOT Thief. I'm sick now



I agree. What a load of horseshit. And what a clueless fuck Dyer is.

Time to pack it in folks. If you (somehow?) thought the DX and Thief series weren't dead yet, they sure as hell are now.

Damn, am I pissed...



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Re: Console Games
Aug 28, 2004, 00:18
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Re: Console Games Aug 28, 2004, 00:18
Aug 28, 2004, 00:18
 
Talk about delusional---this was a PC game site--too bad about 'consolidation'-the one part of this site Blue should drop.

Anyway, First Deus Ex--WOW game. Invisble War -glad I read the reviews and tried it out first, cause it was ruined. Lasted less than a day on before it was gone to delete heaven.

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Good old Eidos
Aug 28, 2004, 00:15
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Good old Eidos Aug 28, 2004, 00:15
Aug 28, 2004, 00:15
 
Eidos: Shitting on games you loved, since 1999.

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No subject
Aug 28, 2004, 00:13
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Aug 28, 2004, 00:13
 
The industry needs a risk-taker like us. It needs someone to push it forward. We make sure we're constantly staying a step ahead of the game.

Where would we all be without the all mighty Eidos?! A company who continues to stare risk in the eye and take one for the team, ensuring the survival of PC gaming as we know it. God bless you Eidos and to all, a good night.

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Re: Console Games
Aug 27, 2004, 23:59
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Re: Console Games Aug 27, 2004, 23:59
Aug 27, 2004, 23:59
 
Consoles will always be one step behind the pc.

You mean besides money,inovation,gameplay etc etc..

But consoles will always have worse graphics! AND GRAPHICS ARE ALL THAT MATTER RIGHT?

right?

Amazes me the amount of delusional pc fanboys

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Re: HEADLINE: Video Game Spares Millions
Aug 27, 2004, 23:54
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Re: HEADLINE: Video Game Spares Millions Aug 27, 2004, 23:54
Aug 27, 2004, 23:54
 
"We'll fix that in the future"

I am simply at a loss for words


"I find your lack of faith disturbing." - Darth Vader

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Morons!
Aug 27, 2004, 23:39
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Morons! Aug 27, 2004, 23:39
Aug 27, 2004, 23:39
 
"The Medieval Thing" is what makes Thief the game it is! I've been a Thief fan from the VERY beginning with Thief 1 (pre-gold edition), and while Ion Storm has every right to change Thief as they wish, I also have the right to not buy their crappy Splinter Cell ripoff. Who the hell do they think they're kidding with the "more modern" Thief thing? YOU JUST WANT YOUR OWN LITTLE SPLINTER CELL.

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Re: Damnit
Aug 27, 2004, 23:36
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Re: Damnit Aug 27, 2004, 23:36
Aug 27, 2004, 23:36
S.L
 
I really hope your right..

DX2 was junk compared to DX1 as any pc gamer knows, Thief3 was ok.. could of used a different engine for sure but I must admit the story line was great

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Re: Damnit
Aug 27, 2004, 23:24
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Re: Damnit Aug 27, 2004, 23:24
Aug 27, 2004, 23:24
 
Eidos owns the licenses for both the DX and Thief series.

Since this dumbass has left Eidos, I assume that anything he said about Eidos' future is now irrelevant along with this article.

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Tired of sequels but.....
Aug 27, 2004, 23:24
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Tired of sequels but..... Aug 27, 2004, 23:24
Aug 27, 2004, 23:24
 
A third Deus Ex 3 would be great if they could throw in a robust toolset for users, so they can make their own maps/missions to go on (with multiplayer). I want to be able to go on cyberpunk adventures in the DX universe with other players, like it should be. Multiplayer competitive play is just not something DX should ever bother to do, it needs to be an RPG/FPS game through and through. As far as I know, there hasn't been many FPS games where you can actually go on missions after the single player campaign is over. Most FPS games have custom content that is nothing more than new maps to play competitive play on..... kidna pointless and repetitive after a while

I would love to load up a server list in Deus Ex 3, log into a server, pick a "class" of cyborg.... then go finishing missions and stuff with other people. If i wanted to frag other players, i have dozens of other FPS games to go to for that. But I have nothing i can go to if I want to play through a cool FPS storyline with people. (I hope Vampire Bloodlines changes that, but Troika is mum about their multiplayer)

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Damnit
Aug 27, 2004, 23:18
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Damnit Aug 27, 2004, 23:18
Aug 27, 2004, 23:18
 
Despite being brilliant, Deus Ex did not sell very well. Invisible War feels like they tried to split the difference between appealing to console kiddies and fans of the original. However because IW also failed to move units, its safe to assume that this strategy is now dead to Eidos as well.

So when I read the words "we're going to try to get more of a consumer focus into our games" I can only assume that they're going to start seriously pandering to one side or the other. The thing is, they already did a hardcore PC game (Deus Ex) but it didn't make much money.

Next stop: Fully consolized "Deus Ex" with lots of small words, big boobs and bright colors. Check your brain at the door; The house built on Laura Croft is going to bend Deus Ex over for the money shot.

We think IW was a travesty, but it's pretty obvious that the deep hurting has just begun. With any luck Eidos will go under before this comes out.


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Re: No subject
Aug 27, 2004, 23:12
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Re: No subject Aug 27, 2004, 23:12
Aug 27, 2004, 23:12
 
Yeah, I agree with you guys about the modern Thief. If I wanted to play a modern version of Thief, I'd get Splinter Cell.

We're going to try to get more of a consumer focus into our games.

Then don't change Thief! We like it how it is. I really liked Thief 2 the best.. the mechanical stuff interested me.

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Re: No subject
Aug 27, 2004, 23:09
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Re: No subject Aug 27, 2004, 23:09
Aug 27, 2004, 23:09
 
NOTE: Since this interview was conducted, Rob Dyer has taken a position with Crave Entertainment as President & COO.

I think this guy knew he was leaving Eidos and wanted to go out with a bang. This is surely all just a bad joke.

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Re: No subject
Aug 27, 2004, 23:06
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Re: No subject Aug 27, 2004, 23:06
Aug 27, 2004, 23:06
 
A modern Thief? I feel sick. This guy has to go. Now.

If he puts the Thief name on a shitty console-ly game, he'll be lynched.

As far as DX goes, they fucked up the series with the absolutely shitty DX2 anyway, so the series is dead to me.

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Re: Modern Thief
Aug 27, 2004, 23:05
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Re: Modern Thief Aug 27, 2004, 23:05
Aug 27, 2004, 23:05
 
We're going to try to get more of a consumer focus into our games. Deus Ex: Invisible War was a good game with solid reviews, but not enough people bought it.

More of a consumer focus?!? What the hell does that mean? And Deus Ex: Invisible War was NOT a good game, which is why not enough people bought it, you fucking genius.

We'll fix that in the future. There definitely will be a Deus Ex 3.

Without Warren Spector, the series' creator. Warren's departure still hasn't "officially" been confirmed, has it? Has anyone heard a single thing about Warren in the last 3 months or so?

People want another Thief, too. We'll make that series more modern, though...the medieval thing's run its course.

LMAO! I swear to God, he must think today is April Fool's. This is too hilarious to be real.

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