if your too stupid to play with r_gamma if you REALLY think it's WAY too dark even when properly playing at night, then your too stupid to be playing PC games :p

I am hating every moment of it.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, but who can honestly tell me that it's a *good* game?

Is the gameplay any good? No it blows. Linear, straightforward with boring weapons and a boring story. The three different monsters are nothing to write home about either. The spawn-a-monster-behind-you-in-the-dark gets really old, really fast.

Haven't read a single review yet, but I bet it's being overrated, being Doom3 and all.

For the record - yes, the graphics are nice (the few times you actually get to see it when the lights come on).

How can you say that? This is DOOM 3! This is the most proud of a game that John Carmack has ever been! I mean come on, it has crates! What more do you need than crates?!?!

Okay, seriously now. I've been saying for two weeks now how overrated this game is. After stating such things about the game, I got slammed. There doesn't seem to be anyone attacking our Euro friends when they complain about how much they hate this game. Methinks that the people defending it in the first place had never bought the game.

Yes, invisible walls suck. Very 1994. But chin-up mate, you still have the hell levels to go through. My personal feeling is that those levels were the best in the game. It's unfortunate you have to go through all the bullshit to get there, but once you do, I think you will like it.

And one other thing, at least the game is probably going to be one of the most modded games ever. You will certainly get your money's worth out of it then, even if it does take six months.

yeah I cancelled amazon and have ordered from somewhere else who claim to have it in stock. not saying who they are until i see a shipping confirmation though

somewhat ironically, i'd originally pre-ordered from SomewhereElse, but changed it to amazon because they screwed up in similar fashion with my Far Cry pre-order. Worse, I was staying in the city for the week until friday, and could have picked it up from a number of shops, but thought my parcel would either be sitting at home or at least be en-route.

also came home to find the other shift key has broken now, and have to resort to using a mouse button assigned to it ;/

you sure about amazon being so great, gameplay got mine to me 1st thing thursday morning, day before release, for 26.99 including the postage

if your not playing the game in a pitch black room on your own, with t5.1 sound or headphones, your REALLY missing out.

SP games got atmosphere in spades that way.

and yes, watch SNATCH for pikeys

playing d3 multiplayer atm and really nejoying it mostly, net code needs serious work and 4 player server max makes it damn hard to find somewhere that's not full :o/

just hoping id's new patch comming up doesn't bar the few net_ tweaks available that actually make it playable on a basic cable line.

want to know what doom3 multiplayer can be like? masses of potential :

http://www.gamershell.com/download_6621.shtml

trickjumps \o/ :)'

carmack can retire now to just making engines- he may even hire someone to code creature AI for the new engine

Well after playing Doom3 I think thats all he did as the Ai does not exist.

Pirates were getting "their"* DOOM3 maybe 10 days ago? I pre-ordered a month ago, still havent got it - and the Amazon account page says a rather optimistic Sept 27th, (optimistic of course in them thinking that I'd actually wait that long).

September 27th? last time I checked my account page it was listed as shipping on december 4th! So I figure if I don't have a shipping confirmation by midday saturday, I'll go down to my local Dixons and pick it up for £25.

The main thing I'm looking forward to is getting to play with the SDK, I can imagine some really nice mods appearing for this fairly rapidly.

carmack can retire now to just making engines- he may even hire someone to code creature AI for the new engine

Valtyr:

I guess it depends on what you were expecting.

Exactly. If you're looking for a Resident Evil type of FPS, this is it. I'm really enjoying it. But if you're expecting big rooms w/ 10-15 imps or 5 hellknights (like the original Doom), you're probably going to be let down.



DG:

Pirates were getting "their"* DOOM3 maybe 10 days ago? I pre-ordered a month ago, still havent got it - and the Amazon account page says a rather optimistic Sept 27th, (optimistic of course in them thinking that I'd actually wait that long).

If you preordered, and they're telling you that date, I'd be raising hell (no punt intended). There's no excuse for that. Cancel it and order elsewhere...



I will think peaceful, happy thoughts about getting my new video card RMA'd.

well i feel a little guiily about my slightly snotty email to amazon now.

no, wait, actually i dont, but its the thought that counts.

I dont understand the way companies react to piracy though, staggered release dates which are then further componded by widespread lack of stocks is an event that is hardly going to be the best way to minimise the damage. Is it not more than a little obvious that amassing stocks and having simultaneous releases might be wise? I realise they want to be as quick as possible to start getting returns on the huge investment, but how many sales are they willing to forfeit to get an x-year project out the door a week or two sooner in one country?

Pirates were getting "their"* DOOM3 maybe 10 days ago? I pre-ordered a month ago, still havent got it - and the Amazon account page says a rather optimistic Sept 27th, (optimistic of course in them thinking that I'd actually wait that long).

* in fairness, about half the people i know who downloaded have since paid for it, not cancelling their pre-orders.


re: pikeys,
very forgiving description of the scottish version(s)
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schemie
A bit of patience with google can find some more amuzing and more accurate pages. If you see a comedy show called "chewin the fat", they have a regular humourous sketch.

Anyone in Edinburgh --not that you'll need any introduction-- can also read the Letters section of free rag Metro, theyve had taking the piss out of schemies as the constant theme for about the past year or three - dont worry, they dont get offended since few can read any paper that actually has more than an inch colunm of news per page anyway.

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Yeah I bet the champagne corks were all popping at valve now that they know HL-2 has very little competition for GOTY. Well thats unless Sex 2 I mean sims 2 (the sex exploration game for spotty nerds) wins it.

Unless you are immediately scared by Doom 3, you just bypassed 90% of the game. Doom 3 is all about shock tacticts and little to no psychological/atmospheric scare. On both accounts, it is a far cry from the System Shock games or even Undying.

The game looks great, though you may not notice it to the small size, the Doom 3 darkness engine, and some weird shortcuts id has taken.

Thinking I would rather play the Doom UC again than Doom 3,
Ray

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I am hating every moment of it.

I'm not saying it's a bad game, but who can honestly tell me that it's a *good* game?

Is the gameplay any good? No it blows. Linear, straightforward with boring weapons and a boring story. The three different monsters are nothing to write home about either. The spawn-a-monster-behind-you-in-the-dark gets really old, really fast.

Haven't read a single review yet, but I bet it's being overrated, being Doom3 and all.

For the record - yes, the graphics are nice (the few times you actually get to see it when the lights come on).

Anyway, my 2cents.

Disappointed

Well, I am loving every moment of Doom III. I guess it depends on what you were expecting. I never read any reviews, preveiws, hardly ever looked at screenshots, trailers or any other kind of coverage.

I heard it was coming, and that's all I needed to know, though I did get a little nervous the few days it took for UPS to get it to my place. And now I'm loving it.

Made me jump a few times, there's some blood, some gore and I get to shoot around with big guns. That's all I need.

I dont really take much notice of Americas and/or how they speak.

"Dammit Bufford, quit feeling up yer sister and fetch me the lamp from the barn, I can't see for shit. And get yer ass in the truck an get on down to Mickey D's. Git me a super duper sized Big Mac meal AND A DIET COKE. I dont think i'll be able to fit thru this vent shaft."

You're getting closer - I think you need a few "that thar"s and "this here"s thrown in there as well. Also a reference to (insert your favorite cheap beer) and "Ol Blue". Maybe add "pick-em-up" before the word truck.

OK, so there's possibly a little hick in me somewhere down the line...sue me.

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"God dang. Fetch me the lamp from the barn, Dirk, i can't see for shit. Whilst you're at it; Get in the automobile and take a ride down to Macdonalds and buy me a super duper sized Big Mac meal. I dont think i'll be able to fit thru this vent shaft"

Was that supposed to be the American/Redneck version? Cause it's still a bit off...


It'd be more like:

"Dammit Bufford, quit feeling up yer sister and fetch me the lamp from the barn, I can't see for shit. And get yer ass in the truck an get on down to Mickey D's. Git me a super duper sized Big Mac meal AND A DIET COKE. I dont think i'll be able to fit thru this vent shaft."

(Just a thought)





I will think peaceful, happy thoughts about getting my new video card RMA'd.
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Bloody hell.

You're the David Johnston of de_-

Sssh! Of course I care a lot about HL2 - HL1 affected my life in very significant ways. But it would never have had the chance to if it weren't for Doom and all the time I spent making maps for that too... Oh, and all the days I spent knowing that I'd never be able to ever create a map as fun or as popular as Q2DM1 (+ Erazor bots!) until I was in my late twenties, and only if I could get into id, and even then only if I could ever match the skill of Lord R Gray, Sir A McGee or Sir T Willits. I know that won't happen.

id make awesome games, but I might give this one a miss, even if I did just pay £26 for it.

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"God dang. Fetch me the lamp from the barn, Dirk, i can't see for shit. Whilst you're at it; Get in the automobile and take a ride down to Macdonalds and buy me a super duper sized Big Mac meal. I dont think i'll be able to fit thru this vent shaft"

LOL, ok your my new hero.

If HL2 doesn't deliver, I might kerplode. That's right, 'kerplode'. But HL2 is different. But this is a Doom thread, so I won't mention HL2 anymore. Not once. HL2. Hah.

You're the David Johnston of de_dust and ETC fame aren't you? I'd bet you'd be interested in the quality of HL2.

We bury our sins here, Dave. We wash them clean.

I say Rethcir old bean, not wishing to bother you and all but I'm afraid there's a rather large cyberdemon behind you...

Oh... It's dashed your brains out all over the floor... Rather unsporting I thought. Gosh what a blasted nuisance eh chaps?