DOOM 3 on Win98/ME

Cyberfight.ru has posted a new DOOM 3 AnyOS patch that can allow the game to be played under Win98 and WinME, which are unsupported out of the box. This is an unofficial project, which hopefully does not represent some sort of legal problem since it can be of help to a lot of people. Accompanying the patch is a collection of small DOOM 3 mods, most off which have self-explanatory titles: Fightclub, Chainsaws Only, RocketDM, Cooperative, and 32 players. Update: A post on FPSCentral warns of the existence of a CD-key stealing trojan in a co-op mod, though a post to our forums indicates that the co-op mod listed here is a different project.
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Re: DO NOT INSTALL
Aug 21, 2004, 21:22
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Re: DO NOT INSTALL Aug 21, 2004, 21:22
Aug 21, 2004, 21:22
 
absolutely right!

hello,
i play many, many games with win98se - all people running win98se i know have much less problems to play stable games (in LAN too).

all people i know running xp have probs all the time - but, those running xp usually don't know much about computers and always ask their friends, running win98, to help them to fix their xp

btw, win98se also accepts harddisks over 137 gb, the only problem is, that you won't be able to make scandisks on this hd - i got a 160 gb in it, never had a problem exept with scandisk refusing to start on this device; just had to make 2 partitions, that's all!

btw, this notes from a man @ heise:

XP/2000 FAT32 Formatting Limit
"While the FAT32 file system can support drives up to a standard theoretical size of 2 terabytes, (it 'can' be jury-rigged under Windows Millennium Edition to support partitions of up to 8 TB). Windows 2000 Professional and XP Professional cannot FORMAT a volume larger than 32 GB in size using their native FAT32 file system.
"The FastFAT driver can mount and support volumes larger than 32 GB that use the FAT32 file system, such as those created locally by Windows 98 or ME in dual boot configuration, (subject to other limits listed here for Windows 98, ME and 2000 and here for Windows XP), but you cannot CREATE one using the Format tool from within either Windows 2000 Professional or XP Professional. If you attempt to format a FAT32 partition larger than 32 GB, the format fails near the end of the process with the following error message:

Logical Disk Manager: Volume size too big."
MC MCSE: Windows XP Professional File Systems Overview

This behavior is by design, as Microsoft recommends using the NTFS file system for partitions greater than 32GB. One reason for this is: as a FAT32 partition goes beyond 32GB, the cluster size that is used jumps from 16K to 32K, thus "wasting" much more drive space. (See the FAT16 page for more about wasted cluster space.)
However, as Windows 2000 or Windows XP fully supports using a FAT32 partition over 32GB, and only does not permit formatting a FAT drive over 32GB, it may be possible to use a Windows 98 boot diskette to get a larger FAT partition formatted. Just be extremely careful that the correct partition is formatted when booting from a diskette.

all the best,

greg


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Fedora
Aug 21, 2004, 12:41
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Fedora Aug 21, 2004, 12:41
Aug 21, 2004, 12:41
 
I am curious as to what fedora core 2 is, if as you say no MS os was ever installed on your machine then surely fedora must be able to cope equally well with large amounts of RAM where do you pick up fedora, is it easy to use, also whats the damage £££ or is there a freeware version.

Please email me back, cheers - johnhutch2000@hotmail.com

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Re: patch
Aug 17, 2004, 15:07
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Re: patch Aug 17, 2004, 15:07
Aug 17, 2004, 15:07
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Re: patch
Aug 17, 2004, 15:04
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Re: patch Aug 17, 2004, 15:04
Aug 17, 2004, 15:04
 
Mustard go here and browse looking the forums looking for DOOM 3 anyOS patch.

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patch
Aug 13, 2004, 21:25
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patch Aug 13, 2004, 21:25
Aug 13, 2004, 21:25
 
I just got the patch but the instructions are very vague and I've read through past posts to no avail. Can some kind soul please tell me step by step how to install it?....much thanks....

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 8, 2004, 21:50
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 8, 2004, 21:50
Aug 8, 2004, 21:50
 
'You need both. The patch to install the game, and the hex edit to run it.'

Whaa? No! The Doom 3 installer will inform you that you are running an old OS, and prompt you to install anyway or abort. Install anyway, then edit the two bytes in the Doom3.exe file.

It's ridiculous to bash on one another for which Microsoft OS we use. Yet another way that the rich drive a wedge between the common people.

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 8, 2004, 14:42
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 8, 2004, 14:42
Aug 8, 2004, 14:42
 
You need both. The patch to install the game, and the hex edit to run it.

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 8, 2004, 04:02
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 8, 2004, 04:02
Aug 8, 2004, 04:02
 
Was it the Hex edit or the patch that I worked, ... Hmmm I wonder?

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 8, 2004, 00:47
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 8, 2004, 00:47
Aug 8, 2004, 00:47
 
Stacy, that hex edit change will work with ME too.

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 7, 2004, 15:15
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 7, 2004, 15:15
Aug 7, 2004, 15:15
 
Hi, i just got Doom 3 and i am running Windows ME. I tried using the anyos patch, but it did not work. i wanted to know if changing the hex worked with windows ME also, or if there was another way to make this work on Windows ME. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 7, 2004, 11:29
nin
 
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 7, 2004, 11:29
Aug 7, 2004, 11:29
 nin
 
pPeople shouldn't be bashing each other for the OS they choose to use. Hell, I have three :p Guess what? Doom 3 runs better in 98SE than in XP Pro!

I found turning off hyper threading (if your board and proc support it) gave me a bit of a boost...

I will think peaceful, happy thoughts about my new video card, in hopes that it will work.
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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 7, 2004, 03:46
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 7, 2004, 03:46
Aug 7, 2004, 03:46
 
Ethylene,

I did as you sugested and it worked! Thanks so much. This is really a beautiful game.

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 7, 2004, 02:47
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 7, 2004, 02:47
Aug 7, 2004, 02:47
 
Hi Ethylene,

Thanks for the info but I don't even know what a hex editor is.

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Re: AnyOS patch
Aug 7, 2004, 02:25
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Re: AnyOS patch Aug 7, 2004, 02:25
Aug 7, 2004, 02:25
 
Open up Doom3.exe with a hex editor. Do a search for 'GlobalMemoryStatusEx'. Change the '45 78' corresponding to 'Ex' with '00 00'. Save, run and enjoy!

Okay, yeah Windows 98SE is old. But it works. It runs Doom 3 just fine. I've got it with a 360GB RAID array, that works fine. I've got one gig of RAM, that works fine too, you just have to make the proper vcache adjustment. I've got a 256MB partition for the swap file, that works fine too.

People shouldn't be bashing each other for the OS they choose to use. Hell, I have three :p Guess what? Doom 3 runs better in 98SE than in XP Pro!
This comment was edited on Aug 7, 02:33.
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AnyOS patch
Aug 6, 2004, 23:17
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AnyOS patch Aug 6, 2004, 23:17
Aug 6, 2004, 23:17
 
Hi Everybody,

I am new here. I was wondering if I could get in a word to ask if anyone has gotten this anyOS patch to run D3 under W98? Over the years I upgrade every single piece of hardware in this computer. I got my current W98SE license when I bought a celeron-powered pc quite a few years ago and have replaced everything until Doom 3 has finally stymied me! I suppose I should be grateful to have gotten so much use out of it but I am upset by ID for hobbling Doom 3 in this manner. If they don’t want to support W98 then o.k. but don’t force me to pay 150 to Bill Gates.

But I digress, I tried this three separate times making three new disk 1 install disks with subsequent installations and it failed each time. Has anyone else succeeded? I sure would hate to have to finally upgrade from an OS that has been working for me just fine for so long.


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Re: DO NOT INSTALL
Aug 6, 2004, 16:27
nin
 
65.
Re: DO NOT INSTALL Aug 6, 2004, 16:27
Aug 6, 2004, 16:27
 nin
 
This thread continues to amaze me...

I will think peaceful, happy thoughts about my new video card, in hopes that it will work.
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Re: DO NOT INSTALL
Aug 6, 2004, 16:24
64.
Re: DO NOT INSTALL Aug 6, 2004, 16:24
Aug 6, 2004, 16:24
 
Win98 does NOT manage memory efficiently or properly over 512M. It does poorly with 256M-512M.
That is pure bullshit. Yes, there is a problem with vcache but that is easily rectified. Define "properly." Windows 2000 and XP may do a better job of managing large amounts of RAM (though they consume much more of it too), but that does not mean that Windows 98SE and ME don't do a functional job with 256MB of RAM or more. Current games which require large amounts of RAM run just fine on Windows 9X. From the sound of your posts, I doubt you have even used Windows 98SE or ME on modern hardware enough to know what it is capable of.

Your comment on lack of support of hard drives greater than 32GB is also dead wrong. Windows 98SE will even support hard drives > 137GB with the correct drivers on hardware which supports it, and up to 137GB on everything else.

I haven't had a single problem with it(activation), that it's served its purpose far better than CD keys ever did, and it's relatively unobtrusive
Your experience with Windows XP appears to be quite limited as well. Activation is a huge pain for people like me who constantly upgrade their own PC's and who support people who purchased Windows XP at retail for theirs or whose copy came installed on the PC from the manufacturer. The OEM edition of Windows XP even requires activation every time the PC's BIOS is updated. When activation fails/expires, the user cannot login at all. And if the activation wizard crashes or otherwise fails to run (as does happen), the user is royally screwed and rectifying it requires a lot of work (and expense for those paying for this work). Activation is no where near as "unobtrusive" as you think. Yes, if you never change your hardware or update your BIOS then you can activate once by Internet and never have to do it again (in theory). However, if you have ever had to wait on hold and argue with the Microsoft moron on the other end of the telephone to grant you a new activation to get a critical PC up and running, then you would know just how obtrusive this activation scheme really is.
This comment was edited on Aug 6, 22:24.
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No subject
Aug 6, 2004, 15:55
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No subject Aug 6, 2004, 15:55
Aug 6, 2004, 15:55
 
Also just to clear up something.. Windows XP requires activation so people dont steal it and use it without paying for it. It does not however require in any way shape or form "registration" make sure you use the correct terminology. Activation and Registration are two different things.

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Re: DO NOT INSTALL
Aug 6, 2004, 14:47
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Re: DO NOT INSTALL Aug 6, 2004, 14:47
Aug 6, 2004, 14:47
 
WTF? I just told you I AM RUNNING IT WITH 1 GIGA!

Granted with the patch they made, but it works fine. So shut up with your ignorance.

Ok, since you apparantly have no memory whatsoever, I'll be kind and quote the entire bloody thing.

Throw in the fact that Win98/98SE cannot properly manage >512M of memory

Sure it can, i'm running it with 1 giga.

No it cannot.

There. Happy?

Hell, Win98 manages memory better than you do. Yes, that's an insult.

Win98 does NOT manage memory efficiently or properly over 512M. It does poorly with 256M-512M. Just because it manages to work doesn't mean that it does a good job at it.

To go ahead and reply to your other crap in this thread:

Its not the money its that Microsoft is amoral to implement their activation scheme

How is it amoral? If you want to use it, you should buy it. I'm not a fan of the activation scheme, but I'll admit that I haven't had a single problem with it, that it's served its purpose far better than CD keys ever did, and it's relatively unobtrusive. No, it doesn't report your hardware back to MS. No, it doesn't spy on you. Yes, I've done a ton of research on how it works.

But then again, I suspect you're using "amoral" in the same way you use "ignorance". That is to say, incorrectly.

Oh, and I do think that MS is immoral in many of the things it does. Not the registration requirement, but in its business practices to competitors. But that's a whole different story.

Because billions of people use them.

Uh... no. Even given your obvious misuse of "billions" there is not a large market segment that has a PC capable of running recent games and is not using Win 2k/XP. It's a small percentage of a small percentage, and that's simply not worth it to a developer to test and support those OS's.

Don't like XP? Fine. Get Win2k. It's still vastly better than Win9x in dozens of ways (memory, disk, networking, and the list goes on).

Oh... and I'm not a MS lacky either. This is being posted from a laptop running Fedora Core 2. The HD in it has never had a MS OS installed on it even once.

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Re: DO NOT INSTALL
Aug 6, 2004, 13:50
IQ
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Re: DO NOT INSTALL Aug 6, 2004, 13:50
Aug 6, 2004, 13:50
IQ
 
>>Sure it can, i'm running it with 1 giga.
>No it cannot.

WTF? I just told you I AM RUNNING IT WITH 1 GIGA!

Granted with the patch they made, but it works fine. So shut up with your ignorance.

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