Out of the Blue

With DOOM 3 just around the corner, my concerns grow that my rig will not be up to the task of adequately running the game. As much as I hate to be a cliché, I'm guessing I'll end up falling into the category of people who will have to upgrade for the game, though I think I will see how things work on my current machine before making any decisons in this regard, but I'm thinking I'm gonna be in the sub 25 FPS range.

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Re: The 'Creep' link is busted
Jul 31, 2004, 21:18
Re: The 'Creep' link is busted Jul 31, 2004, 21:18
Jul 31, 2004, 21:18
 
>Sorry no. Where have you been?

I kinda fell out of the loop there for a while. No games of interest == no interest in gaming. The D3 news got my attention, though.

(Thanks for noticing)
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Re: Doom 3 upgrades
Jul 30, 2004, 19:34
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Re: Doom 3 upgrades Jul 30, 2004, 19:34
Jul 30, 2004, 19:34
 indiv
 
I have the exact same problem except I can't even use speaker stands. I've been toying around with the idea of making something that I can mount to the back of my computer chair. It would have to be able to slip off easily.

I was in the same boat but I broke down and bought (overpriced) speaker stands that I can move around at will. I seriously considered mounting the rear speakers to the back of my chair, but I couldn't come up with anything that would have been convenient and worked out well.

The things Doom 3 makes us do...

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Re: Doom 3 upgrades
Jul 30, 2004, 10:37
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Re: Doom 3 upgrades Jul 30, 2004, 10:37
Jul 30, 2004, 10:37
 WarPig
 
Also, I don't have a place to mount the rear speakers since the computer is in the living room (in the hallway between the living room and dining room actually), so I was wondering if most of these speakers can be mounted on stands that can be moved around.

I have the exact same problem except I can't even use speaker stands. I've been toying around with the idea of making something that I can mount to the back of my computer chair. It would have to be able to slip off easily.

It sure would be a lot easier if there was a speaker system with wireless surround speakers.


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Re: Video Card Question
Jul 30, 2004, 09:00
Re: Video Card Question Jul 30, 2004, 09:00
Jul 30, 2004, 09:00
 
Is it gonna be able to pull some of the shader effects HL2 has like High Dynamic Range? I know that the 5xxx series of cards couldn't

Er, yes they could. High Dynamic Range is a pretty standard high level shader feature and all the DX9 capable cards (everything from the Radeon 9500 forward and GF 5xxx forward) could handle it.

The problem with the GF 5xxx series was that its internal data structures, code paths, etc. were so radically different from how DX9 wanted to do things that it took a massive speed hit. Nvidia reduced this speed hit with drivers eventually, but there was only so much that could be done. The GF 68xx series does not suffer from these problems though; DX9 benchmarks and games like Far Cry put it right at ATI X800 speeds.

There were some other limitations to the 5xxx hardware, particularly in regards to supported bit depths, but that's gone away with the 6800 as well (AFAIK -- I am NOT a graphics developer though!). I think the deal is basically that since the hardware no longer bites in DX9 developers don't need to drop down to 16-bit processing to get decent speed (Nvidia offers only 16 or 32 bit; ATI only offers 24 bit; so technically Nvidia hardware now has more dynamic range than ATI, but that's probably pretty meaningless).

There is high dynamic range stuff in D3 as well. Just haven't seen any screenies of it yet.

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Re: Bond
Jul 30, 2004, 08:58
nin
 
Re: Bond Jul 30, 2004, 08:58
Jul 30, 2004, 08:58
 nin
 
I liked Brosnan quite a bit as Bond but with the exception of Goldeneye the films he was in utterly sucked.

That pretty much sums it up...they need new writers before they need a new Bond...

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Re: Bond
Jul 30, 2004, 02:22
Re: Bond Jul 30, 2004, 02:22
Jul 30, 2004, 02:22
 
Sat May 15, 3:53 PM ET Add Entertainment - Reuters to My Yahoo!

By Mike Davidson

CANNES, France (Reuters) - After four years of filming and editing his "Kill Bill" revenge saga, American director Quentin Tarantino (news) feels like he's climbed a cinematic mountain but instead of a much-desired rest he wants to tackle the Everest of film genres: James Bond.

Once Tarantino finishes worldwide promotion for his "Kill Bill - Volume 2" sequel, which stars Uma Thurman (news) as a bride bent on finding the man who tried to kill her, he plans to approach the producers of the big-budget Bond series.

"I've always wanted to do it. I bumped into Pierce Brosnan (news) and we talked about it. He liked the idea," he said.

Tarantino is a lifelong fan of the British spy saga, now starring the Irish actor Brosnan.

"I would like to do the original book 'Casino Royale' and do it more or less the way the Ian Fleming book is," Tarantino told Reuters in an interview in Cannes, where he is president of this year's film festival jury.

"Casino Royale" was made in 1967 as an ill-fated spoof starring David Niven (news) as an aging 007.

"I don't know if they're going to go for it or not, but I'm letting them know I'm interested," he said.

Only weeks ago, an exhausted Tarantino said he felt like he had already climbed the world's highest peak and would probably pick a smaller-scale production for his next picture.

That was before he received some words of advice from Eleanor Coppola, wife of legendary director Francis Ford Coppola (news) and mother of Sofia Coppola (news) ("Lost in Translation"), who is rumored to be dating Tarantino.

Eleanor Coppola, who documented the disaster-ridden making of her husband's 1979 classic "Apocalypse Now," told Tarantino to tackle ambitious projects while he still had youth and energy on his side.

"It was actually quite profound advice that she gave. Not to say that you can't make a small movie in between, but now is not the time to do a left-handed project," Tarantino said. "Now is the time to climb Mount Everest (news - web sites)."

The "Reservoir Dogs" director sounds like he has no intention of slowing down. He has completed a script for a World War II project and is also toying with plans for a horror film.

Though he is handing out the honors this year, Tarantino has every intention of returning to Cannes, where he won the Palme d'Or best film award in 1994 with "Pulp Fiction."

"I guess at the end of the day it would be nice if my crowning achievement was the fact that I won more Palme d'Ors than any filmmaker who ever lived. That would be great, that's something to aspire to," he said.

Tarantino directing Casino Royal more or less as Ian Fleming wrote it. That would be fucking sweet. Hopefully they'd be wise enough to set it in the 50's and not try to adapt it to the modern day.

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Re: Bond
Jul 30, 2004, 02:11
Re: Bond Jul 30, 2004, 02:11
Jul 30, 2004, 02:11
 
That's the sort of stuff we need to se more of in Bond. More ruthlessness!

For once I agree with Halsy. Bond shouldn't be about gadgets and a car equipped with auto-tracking shotguns, it shouldn't even be about shootouts. What it should be about is a man who is willing to do evil things to accomplish his mission. I've always viewed Bond as an anti-hero, he's not a nice guy. If it's a choice between the girl and the mission, he'll choose the mission. If he's being tortured with no hope of escape his priority is to find a way to kill himself before the interrogators can get the information they want. In short he is a bad motherfucker, not the dashing charming politically-correct gadget-laden british superspy that the movies want to make him out as. Keeping my finger's crossed that Tarantino does actually pursue directing the next film, especially since he's a fan of the books.

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Re: Bond
Jul 30, 2004, 01:59
Re: Bond Jul 30, 2004, 01:59
Jul 30, 2004, 01:59
 
The beauty of Jason Bourne is that it's much more akin to a real spy flick.

He doesn't have any spy toys, just his own ingenuity. That scene in Moscow where the cabbie tells him to get away from his cab and he dusts the two cops in seconds and then they all back off. All without even flashing a weapon. That's beautiful! The scene with Julia Stiles where she's freaking out because she knows regardless of the fact that she worked with him, he'll waste her in a second and not think twice about it. Even her whole bit about "They don't make mistakes". That said it all. It's like, he wants us to know he's coming for us.

That's whre Bond flicks need to go...nitty gritty. Like in Tomorrow Never Dies, where Bond finally hets the dro on buddy who was going to kill him and he says, 'I'm just a professional doing a job.' To which he replies, 'So am I.'

That's the sort of stuff we need to se more of in Bond. More ruthlessness!




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Re: Bond
Jul 29, 2004, 22:40
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Re: Bond Jul 29, 2004, 22:40
Jul 29, 2004, 22:40
 
Had to add my to cents to the Bond debate. I liked Brosnan quite a bit as Bond but with the exception of Goldeneye the films he was in utterly sucked. Goldeneye was at it's best during the first ten minutes, there's a shot where Brosnan is peeking around a corner with his pistol at the ready and you get an up close shot of a completely emotionless, steely eye. That is what Bond's eyes look like, as much as I liked Sean Connery he always had a friendly twinkle in his eyes which is totally non-Bond. When Alec gets "killed" Bond reduces the timers on the bombs, he figures that he's going to die but he is going to make damn sure the mission is accomplished, classic Bond. Of the Connery films I liked From Russia with Love the best but my all time favorite Bond scene is from Dr. No, at one point Bond realizes that during the night an assasin will come for him so stuffs some clothing into his bed to make it look like he is sleeping then he sits himself down so he'll have a clear shot of the assasin as he comes through the door. He then pours a drink and waits all night for the assasin to come, when the assasin comes he kills him. That is the sort of the thing that defines the Bond character for me.

As for who should play the next Bond I'm of the opinion it should be Ewan MacGregor, he's Scottish (like Bond), he has dark hair and blue eyes (again like Bond), he can act and he can look tough. Here's a promotional shot from some romantic comedy he was in a few years ago:

http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0309530/Ss/0309530/DK-36-R2.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0309530

When I read the Bond novels thats what James Bond looks like.

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Re: HOLY SHIT !
Jul 29, 2004, 22:40
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Re: HOLY SHIT ! Jul 29, 2004, 22:40
Jul 29, 2004, 22:40
 
Btw, I noticed that you can't find a geforce 6800 for under $410 anymore, even on pricewatch. I guess the demand is greater than the supply.

I bought mine at cost for $320 at compusa 2 weeks ago. 6800GT that is.

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Re: The 'Creep' link is busted
Jul 29, 2004, 22:02
97.
Re: The 'Creep' link is busted Jul 29, 2004, 22:02
Jul 29, 2004, 22:02
 
Anyone got an alternate?

Sorry no. Where have you been?

I was looking on milk cartons for you.




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The 'Creep' link is busted
Jul 29, 2004, 21:27
96.
The 'Creep' link is busted Jul 29, 2004, 21:27
Jul 29, 2004, 21:27
 
Anyone got an alternate?
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No subject
Jul 29, 2004, 20:45
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No subject Jul 29, 2004, 20:45
Jul 29, 2004, 20:45
 
i think i will have fps in the 30-40 range on medium/bit below high quality settings.

havent seen the antielvis post on blues in a while.

far cry looks and plays sweet on my new radeon 9800xt.

Im now looking for reasons to keep my SWG account active
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vid card price
Jul 29, 2004, 20:36
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vid card price Jul 29, 2004, 20:36
Jul 29, 2004, 20:36
 
i think this is still valid...but the ETA is 8/16/04
http://www.futurepowerpc.com/scripts/details.asp?PRDCODE=VCPN-G6800GAPB&REFID=PW

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Re: HOLY SHIT !
Jul 29, 2004, 19:36
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Re: HOLY SHIT ! Jul 29, 2004, 19:36
Jul 29, 2004, 19:36
 
ordered my 6800GT last week ( PNY ) ...$350.00 ! (not retail , so dont bug me with questions )

Btw, I noticed that you can't find a geforce 6800 for under $410 anymore, even on pricewatch. I guess the demand is greater than the supply.

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If I were you I would wait this out a bit. It looks like they are going to be jacking up the prices for these cards for a bit. Only Evga has kept their prices down.

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Video Card Question
Jul 29, 2004, 19:35
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Video Card Question Jul 29, 2004, 19:35
Jul 29, 2004, 19:35
 
With all this talk of upgrading, I'm looking at the plain Geforce 6800. I'm curious about a few things though. Is it gonna be able to pull some of the shader effects HL2 has like High Dynamic Range? I know that the 5xxx series of cards couldn't but how do things compare now?

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Re: HOLY SHIT !
Jul 29, 2004, 19:29
Enahs
 
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Re: HOLY SHIT ! Jul 29, 2004, 19:29
Jul 29, 2004, 19:29
 Enahs
 
Huh? Wha?

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HOLY SHIT !
Jul 29, 2004, 19:10
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HOLY SHIT ! Jul 29, 2004, 19:10
Jul 29, 2004, 19:10
 
christian bale as batman ( "do you like huey lewis & the news" ?..."dont just stare at it , EAT IT "!) ...what a cast , morgan freeman , gary ohldman , michael cane !!!...great director (this is the 1st ive heard about the specs on the next batman) CANT WAIT !
sean connery was THE bond , but i really enjoyed brossnan's 1st 3 flicks ( goldeneye ! ) the last one sucked bronto tho , thats why he's backing out.
ordered my 6800GT last week ( PNY ) ...$350.00 ! (not retail , so dont bug me with questions )
plus i traded that smoldering pile of camel vomit "true crime steets of LA" for a DOOM 3 pre buy ( never did a pre buy befor , but it came w/ a little metal Doom creature that sits atop my monitor now ! too cool
and Blue , i live near you and this morning at 5:10 a.m. had the shit scared out of me by that damn "Hildalgo" ad

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Re: Car Logo game
Jul 29, 2004, 18:17
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Re: Car Logo game Jul 29, 2004, 18:17
Jul 29, 2004, 18:17
 
I must have looked at a few thousand cereal boxes today
I think some of those cereals must be US-only, because I'm missing 7 of them yet. I'm sure it's at least partially my inability to remember, though.

I'm missing 2 from the fast food one.

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Re: Car Logo game
Jul 29, 2004, 18:01
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Re: Car Logo game Jul 29, 2004, 18:01
Jul 29, 2004, 18:01
 
I can't help you with all of those, but here's what I have:

Thanks! I had figured out smacks, apparantly I had accidentally typed in chex+ instead of chex (?) for E.

I must have looked at a few thousand cereal boxes today...

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