No Win98 DOOM 3

In today's (unusually late) DOOM 3 newsbit, a post on PlanetDOOM confirms from Activision that DOOM 3 will not run under Windows 98 or Win98SE, but that Windows XP or Windows 2000 will be required.
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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 12:31
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 12:31
Jul 28, 2004, 12:31
 
""I may come off childish..."

Yes you are"

NORDS, all you post about is not having enough money to do this or that, why don't you just do us all a favor and stfu. I'm sorry if you're poor, wait -- not really. You're poor because you're stupid.

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Re: No subject
Jul 28, 2004, 12:30
Re: No subject Jul 28, 2004, 12:30
Jul 28, 2004, 12:30
 
Also, looks as if BradM is another lawyer, haha.



Saying people won't use XP because they built their computer and there are licensing issues is BS. They're stealing 98 if they are jamming it on another machine, I find it hard to believe they feel it's wrong to steal XP as well.


Also, sure, assuming those 7% of HL machines could run Doom 3, the added cost of catering development to them would likely void the added revenues of the sales to them.

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 12:29
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 12:29
Jul 28, 2004, 12:29
 
Sinner's Saint,

I got it, you sell drugs for a living, don't you? How can I get into that area of the economy?
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Re: No subject
Jul 28, 2004, 12:25
Re: No subject Jul 28, 2004, 12:25
Jul 28, 2004, 12:25
 
Syndicate flat-out crashes XP for me. Instant reboot. Only old DOS games will do that on my system, which is why I keep another around. Other games, like X-COM, work if I slow the system and do some easy tweaks.




The only way someone can use 98 and not get the BSOD is to not turn it on. Even winamp would give me those. I was an IT professional, I have a degree in CS, I think I know how to use my PC. It's just a simple fact that 98 has massive memory management issues and would crash regularly unless you rebooted after using every memory-intensive program and before loading another.

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 11:56
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 11:56
Jul 28, 2004, 11:56
 
Not as much as you are

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 11:55
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 11:55
Jul 28, 2004, 11:55
 
"I may come off childish..."

Yes you are


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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 11:42
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 11:42
Jul 28, 2004, 11:42
 
"Thats a lame post!! OMG I bet you still praise what we do in WWII or vietnam but guest what its 19-fucking-45 or 19-fucking-67. hehehe ok my post is not better but I guest your a 15 year old boys who got your money from your parent so you dont have to paid taxes, and houses and car. SO you dont know the value of money my poor sinner's. Why change something working. Yes XP is better than 98 but you will realise with time, that spending money here and there is not very pleasant. But I will stop here because Im pretty sure your the type of guys saying that if we are not rich we dont deserve to live! Peace."

I work at a job that obviously pays more than yours jackass, and I'm 26 for the record. I didn't even graduate high school and I'm still making enough bling to have two computers, an HDTV and a home theatre setup along with maintaining a girlfriend and all the rest of my shit. I also have a non-beater car ('02), an apartment I rent (no, mommys basement hasn't been an option since 99), and paid my taxes last year, so don't tell me where the fuck I come from, what 'adult life' is, or how hard my life was. Cry me a fucking river. People who don't make money in life are not trying hard enough (i.e. YOU). I may come off childish but it's only in retort to the asshats who like to bitch about things that are things they should have taken care of.

There's something in life called responsibility and personal accountability, most of the people on these boards don't know what the fuck that is. And yes, if you saw me in real life I would tell the same thing to your pimply, greasy, ugly face.

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 11:18
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 11:18
Jul 28, 2004, 11:18
 
Win 2k is just as good as Win XP, IMO. No need to upgrade from Win 2k. But ditch Win 9x and all its progeny, people!! Only reason I upgraded to XP was because I could buy it for $7 via academic purchase. Otherwise I would have stayed with Win 2k. But you couldn't pay me enough money to go back to Win 9x for my primary rig.

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 10:46
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 10:46
Jul 28, 2004, 10:46
 
You know we dont see anymore the BSOD with XP but how many time have you see the "Send a report to microsoft" thats the BSOD

Yes, but the dialog that appears when an APPLICATION crashes, not the OS. A single app like Opera could foce a reboot in Win9x. Most of by BSOD's in Win9x forced me to reboot.

There are still "Blue Screens" (blue background and white text) in 2000 and XP, but they're very hard to get. You need either a major hardware problem or a kernel crash to get them. I've had 1 real BSOD in XP since I started using it in 2001, but that's because I was screwing with my processor settings (trying to O'C it).

If you run Win9x, power to you. I will admit, the ability to run some of my older games is pretty tempting. But I don't play so many games anymore, just the occassional new title like Thief III or Ground Control II (eventually DOOM3 and HL-2).

Most of my PC use is every-day stuff or software development. And let me tell ya, when you're writing software, you want as stable of an OS as you can get.

P.S.
I'm able to run Red Alert 2 on XP. Hell, my brother still plays it against his friends (like, yesterday). But yeh, a lot of oler stuff won't.

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 10:40
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 10:40
Jul 28, 2004, 10:40
 
Your right Chris, but still some people do not experience that much problem with them because they install only the essencial on their system, no unsuported driver or stupid program that make the os crash. You know we dont see anymore the BSOD with XP but how many time have you see the "Send a report to microsoft" thats the BSOD but since Microsoft have made correction to their system it can continue working and frose just a bit. I still have a computer with 98 because a lot of my old software and game that I still want to play is not suporte on XP like Red Alert 2, X-COM Ufo defence (it work but I dont want to install emulator) and a few others!

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Re: No subject
Jul 28, 2004, 10:28
Jim
Re: No subject Jul 28, 2004, 10:28
Jul 28, 2004, 10:28
Jim
 
Will there be a LINUX version?

More game developers need to start writing their apps native to LINUX.

Jim
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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 10:24
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 10:24
Jul 28, 2004, 10:24
 
Windows 98 is from 19-fucking-98.

Actually, I'm pretty sure it was available towards the end of 1997 (though not widely in brick-n-mortar retail outlets).

I was running Windows 2000 in 1999, and Windows XP in 2001. Granted, in the fall months, but still.

I kind of feel bad for people not running Win98, Win98Se, or (god forbid) WinME. NOT because they're running an "older" OS, but because those versions of windows were as buggy as my old dorm.

Seriously, those versions of Windows have etched "blue screen of death" and "windows is unstable" in solid granite, when current products by MS are actually pretty stable.


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1024MB PC2700 Crucial RAM
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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 10:24
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 10:24
Jul 28, 2004, 10:24
 
Thats a lame post!! OMG I bet you still praise what we do in WWII or vietnam but guest what its 19-fucking-45 or 19-fucking-67. hehehe ok my post is not better but I guest your a 15 year old boys who got your money from your parent so you dont have to paid taxes, and houses and car. SO you dont know the value of money my poor sinner's. Why change something working. Yes XP is better than 98 but you will realise with time, that spending money here and there is not very pleasant. But I will stop here because Im pretty sure your the type of guys saying that if we are not rich we dont deserve to live! Peace.

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No subject
Jul 28, 2004, 10:22
No subject Jul 28, 2004, 10:22
Jul 28, 2004, 10:22
 
This sort of reminds me - to a lesser extent - or when Epic said that Unreal Tournament 2003 wouldn't support Voodoo cards.

The 'true gamers' were up in arms that their four-year old Voodoo 3s wouldn't be able to run state of the art technology.

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Re: No subject
Jul 28, 2004, 10:19
Re: No subject Jul 28, 2004, 10:19
Jul 28, 2004, 10:19
 
Anyone running Win98 is more likely to have a system that can't run Doom3 though...

Eh, not really. Besides myself, I know quite a few people that built their own PCs. Most will use (or, ahem, reuse) Windows 2000 because of no activation, while another large portion doesn't mind shelling out $100 USD for XP Home (or the $150 USD XP Pro OEM disc).

But I know a couple that will just install 98SE on their new hardware, mostly because they're cheap or just can't afford it.

98 and 2000 have no activation, so they are more appealing to the less fortunate (or enthusiastic, or anti-MS zealots).

So those few friends I have that rebuild their machines twice a year have pretty modern rigs (Athlon XP 2800, P4 3.x, etc), but their still running a P.O.S. operating system.


Pentium 4 3.06 GHz w/ Hyperthreading & 533 MHz FSB
1024MB PC2700 Crucial RAM
ATI Radeon 9800XT
Windows XP Pro
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Re: Right grid reference .Wrong planet
Jul 28, 2004, 10:16
Re: Right grid reference .Wrong planet Jul 28, 2004, 10:16
Jul 28, 2004, 10:16
 
why are there 160 replies to this stupid story?

If you are still using Windows 98, you are a clueless fucktard.

Time to join the new goddamn century and upgrade your fucking operating system, hows that?

Case closed...story over.

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Re: Go easy on us
Jul 28, 2004, 10:15
Re: Go easy on us Jul 28, 2004, 10:15
Jul 28, 2004, 10:15
 
Windows 98 is from 19-fucking-98. Guess what year we are in now? What the fuck, are you guys with 98 Marty McFly? Did you travel back in time to buy the shittiest OS to install it in the future are you just too damn idiotic to realize people actually find Windows XP to be stable? This is like saying 'Waaa id doesn't support my Verite card from 96, I'm not buying Doom!'

If you are too poor, stupid, or lazy to upgrade your OS you are a MORON. End of discussion.

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Right grid reference .Wrong planet
Jul 28, 2004, 10:14
Right grid reference .Wrong planet Jul 28, 2004, 10:14
Jul 28, 2004, 10:14
 
This is not an issue about which OS is better. Thats a red herring.

This is about 2 separate issues
1) An additional cost of upgrading the OS that was not made clear earlier, nor factored in on users original estimates when pricing up the overall cost for D3.

2) A migration path/upgrade from 98/98SE/ME to XP/2K that although may appear simple to the seasoned techie may be more daunting to a casual user, who just wants to play the game on release. Many people who bought their PC's may have had 98/ME pre-installed and have never been through an upgrade process.
BTW I have XP Pro so I'm not getting dragged into an OS flame war.



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Re: No subject
Jul 28, 2004, 10:14
Re: No subject Jul 28, 2004, 10:14
Jul 28, 2004, 10:14
 
diRty roBot your right Im 100% with you on this, but next time dont be too harsh on people peace!

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2K
Jul 28, 2004, 10:13
2K Jul 28, 2004, 10:13
Jul 28, 2004, 10:13
 
I've been using Win2K pretty much since it came out, and I'm perfectly happy with it. Win98 wasn't bad, but 2K is a lot more stable. I just installed the latest DirectX on my system, and realized that I haven't had to reboot in... weeks. It just keeps running.

I keep an old IBM Aptiva in the closet for my retro gaming fix. I rescued it off the trash heap. It has (I think) a P300 and 64 meg of RAM and an 8 gig HD, but it runs Win98 and those old games quite happily.



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