Out of the Blue

In watching The Bourne Identity on DVD last night, I was struck by an odd incident of typecasting. Like Leland Orser, who seems to get an inordinate number of roles playing a guy who is completely freaked-out by something, Brian Cox seems to have an odd specialty. I guess the idea of a covert operative with amnesia seeking answers is appealing enough to inspire multiple films, but I want to know what quality an actor could possess that would find him portraying the authority figure in command of all the mysterious facts in no fewer than three(!) of these movies. In addition to playing this unusual role in Bourne, Mr. Cox is also the man with the answers for the absent-minded heroes in both X2 and in The Long Kiss Goodnight. Weird, huh? He is also the only guy who knows the truth in The Ring, though there are no amnesiac spies in that one... guess he just has that "knowing" air.

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 25, 2004, 17:14
Bronco
 
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 25, 2004, 17:14
Jul 25, 2004, 17:14
 Bronco
 
edit: just noticed, 500th post! What's the prize for that again?

I'm sorry but I'm just too tired to go back through my posting history and look for this...

Will a punch in the arm do?

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Re: No subject
Jul 25, 2004, 17:13
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Re: No subject Jul 25, 2004, 17:13
Jul 25, 2004, 17:13
 Bronco
 
Now, Robot I was really, really scared about, having read all of Asimov's fiction, and being a huge fan, and then seeing Will Smith, good god...the horror. But they did one thing, staying true to thematic development through (yes, I counted this out) 17 books Asimov wrote with 3-laws robots as major characters. Except they do in one movie what took 17 books and 30,000 - 50,000 years in the novels...

I am also a huge fan of Asimov and I have no intention of ever watching this movie.

Ever.

This is truly a shame as I've always felt that the Foundation series in particular would make either a good setting for an RPG or movie.

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Supremacy
Jul 25, 2004, 12:55
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Supremacy Jul 25, 2004, 12:55
Jul 25, 2004, 12:55
 
Good movie - but man, was that shaky-cam way, wayyyyy overdone! To the point that it got annoying.

Probably one of hte best car-chase scene ever filmed, but we'll never know cuz of all the close-ups and shaky cam...Same with the fight with the other assassin. There was no way to see the moves. Just pissed me off when they mess up a scene by the editing/camera work.

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 25, 2004, 02:58
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 25, 2004, 02:58
Jul 25, 2004, 02:58
 
I love Brian Cox. He was amazing as Goring in Nuremberg. There's a man who should have had a far better career than he did.


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Re: No subject
Jul 25, 2004, 01:45
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Re: No subject Jul 25, 2004, 01:45
Jul 25, 2004, 01:45
 
Don't quote me on this, but I think it is more of a "medium budget" movie. This is Anderson, the director of Resident Evil, that we are talking about.

Expecting that I will like this movie for what it is,
Ray

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Re: No subject
Jul 25, 2004, 01:27
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Re: No subject Jul 25, 2004, 01:27
Jul 25, 2004, 01:27
 
I really liked both Bourne and I, Robot (saw them in a "DIY" double-feature).

Bourne was much better directed in its action scenes than most thrillers today, and I really liked the little touches that clued you in how he could be such a "macguvyer" kind of thinker.

Now, Robot I was really, really scared about, having read all of Asimov's fiction, and being a huge fan, and then seeing Will Smith, good god...the horror. But they did one thing, staying true to thematic development through (yes, I counted this out) 17 books Asimov wrote with 3-laws robots as major characters. Except they do in one movie what took 17 books and 30,000 - 50,000 years in the novels...

AvP, man, I just re-read the Dark Horse comics version (the first one, no subtitle) and I have to say, I'm again afraid that the movie could be disastrous. Doesn't it seem like they have only 1 set for this one? That always bodes poorly for "big-budget" films...
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Re: No subject
Jul 25, 2004, 01:05
nin
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Re: No subject Jul 25, 2004, 01:05
Jul 25, 2004, 01:05
nin
 
I really didnt like it, CG was not happening for me

Yeah, the scene towards the beginning, when he's running through the 1000 robots looked like a total cut and paste job (it was quite obvious Smith was pasted into the CGI background).

Contrast that to Minority Report, which did a great job of showing a near future, but not overly unrealistic.

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No subject
Jul 25, 2004, 00:05
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No subject Jul 25, 2004, 00:05
Jul 25, 2004, 00:05
 
Can anyone recomend a calender program that would work with XP?
M$ has the crappiest calender, doesnt give dates seasons change, moon cycles (for us Vampires and Werewolves) or basic holidays.

I guess it would be cool if I could add notes, it would not have to be a daily planner, thou that would be ok.
I wouldnt want something so complicated it would take a 600 page manual.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 23:42
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 23:42
Jul 24, 2004, 23:42
 
Thank you, Complicity.
No problem, Ray, anything I can do to spread the word. It's in my DVD list on DVD Af, too.

The time is now.

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No subject
Jul 24, 2004, 23:34
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No subject Jul 24, 2004, 23:34
Jul 24, 2004, 23:34
 
Yeah, I havent really been able to stomach Smith since, WWW.
IRobot, No spoilers really, just general stuff.

I really didnt like it, CG was not happening for me and that scene where Smith waiting for data while in his car, in the tunnel, I was just completly :-rollseyes-: the whole scene.

Had a good story/plot twist but everything just seemed so fake.

Also look at the way Smith walks the first 10 minutes of a movie, gangsta style, wth is with that.
He spose to be a cop, trained in defense and assault.
Its completly contrary to being centered in your movements, ie like martial arts, you DONT going up on the balls of your feet while walking, head lock looking and shoulder movment side to side.

Watch Bourne while he is walking shoulders never really go up and down almost a constant level, cause he is centered.
Thank god Smith drops that crap, well mostly.

I maybe wrong, thats the way it seems to me.

But I don't get a sense you're listening, so, fuck it, let's go to Hell!
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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 23:21
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 23:21
Jul 24, 2004, 23:21
 
Wow, I am crazy.

After all the endless delays, I did not think it was due until August or so. For $40 (~54 silly! Canada dollars,) I will pick that one up.

/Unfair

Yeah, the U.K. and even you silly! dollar people get DVDs before us.

/Unfair

Thank you, Complicity.

Off to do an online search of the local BestBuy,
Ray

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 23:10
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 23:10
Jul 24, 2004, 23:10
 
Now, are you two in the U.S.? I know the set is/was coming in the U.S., but I did not thin it was until later in the year.
Are you talking Millennium? I'm in Canada, it was released in N.America on Tuesday the 20th.

I was reading, and Millennium seasons 2 and 3 have already been announced for UK by the end of the year! With any luck, that means us Region 1 schlubs will get them in that timeframe as well (since season one in UK came out a week earlier), although so far there has been no announcement.

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Re: Evil advertisements
Jul 24, 2004, 22:56
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Re: Evil advertisements Jul 24, 2004, 22:56
Jul 24, 2004, 22:56
 
Once again, close everything, ran NaV, ran AdAware, and then ran Spybot and Bazooka.

The only things that popped up on AdAware were the usual cookies that I collect (I keep ZA and IE cookiee security set to medium) and Spybot complained about two KoL websites I had.

Reboot...open up IE, which defaults to Blue's News, and I get the usual pop-up about "You computer may be infected with spyware, click here to...blah blah blah."

It is not on my end.

Shrugging; going back to disabling ads; giving the finger to UGO,
Ray

Edit: Looking around, it was only Blue's News that acts in this way. IGN, Yahoo, KoL, EB Games, Inq, and Toms have no problems.
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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 22:53
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 22:53
Jul 24, 2004, 22:53
 
Is that "Pro?"

Now, are you two in the U.S.? I know the set is/was coming in the U.S., but I did not thin it was until later in the year. If it is out now, purchasing here I come...

Wanting the "Jedi" tag :(,
Ray

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 22:51
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 22:51
Jul 24, 2004, 22:51
 
Well, I saw I, Robot with a friend because they wanted to see it, but I was expecting the worst possible outcome - another Wild Wild West. Compared to that, this movie was better, but I do think Smith was miscast, the robot could have looked better (even more human or even more cutting edge) and I wish the story took a much more dramatic approach. I am giving Moynahan some leeway because I am presuming she was intentionally scripted to play a cold human; it stresses how much more familiar she is with the robots. Yeah, it is bad...but as bad as the rest of the movie. Hence, I am blaming the script (realistically, she really has no character growth.)

I am an AvP whore! I have the Alien four pack, I am waiting for the SE Predator movies, and I have played all the games - from Doom mods to Jaguar games to the actual PC AvP games.

Whoever wins, we lose!

MWA HAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

Of course, it is being directed by Anderson; I go in beforehand knowing where to set my expectations. Humans dumb, humans die, alien versus predator hilarity ensues, and everything goes BOOM in the end.

I still need to call up my friend about watching Bourne tonight...

Making some Predator crackling noises,
Ray

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 22:41
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 22:41
Jul 24, 2004, 22:41
 
Glad to see I'm not the only Millenium fan around.
Oh, right here. Millennium is my favourite show of all time. I did pick up the DVD box the other day (had an alarm set in Outlook for almost 2 months). I loves it, truly.

edit: just noticed, 500th post! What's the prize for that again?

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Re: Worth seeing but... (no spoilers)
Jul 24, 2004, 22:04
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Re: Worth seeing but... (no spoilers) Jul 24, 2004, 22:04
Jul 24, 2004, 22:04
 
Realistic? No.

Hey McGuyver was realistic! Well at least it seemed that way when I was 5. Fond memories of watching McGuyver.

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Re: Brian Cox
Jul 24, 2004, 21:57
nin
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Re: Brian Cox Jul 24, 2004, 21:57
Jul 24, 2004, 21:57
nin
 
I, Robot was better than I expected, but it is still only "ok." Will Smith has a hard time doing any serious acting and I wished the movie took a more serious/dramatic approach, but it is an adequat viewing.

I didn't like it. I expected Will's sarcasm and one liners, but it just seemed out of place. And whoever the woman was (Will's sidekick) obviously came from the "Jada Picket Smith Matrix School Of Acting."


Ignoring all its trashiness; wanting to see AvP

The first preview I saw was tonight (before I, Robot) and I have to say, it looked a lot better than I thought it would.


Jamie Foxx as Ray Charles looked better, though! I'm thinking that could earn him an award or two...




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Blues news cancer grid computing?
Jul 24, 2004, 21:27
23.
Blues news cancer grid computing? Jul 24, 2004, 21:27
Jul 24, 2004, 21:27
 
Hey is there a cancer grid computing team for bluesnews?

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Worth seeing but... (no spoilers)
Jul 24, 2004, 21:22
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Worth seeing but... (no spoilers) Jul 24, 2004, 21:22
Jul 24, 2004, 21:22
 
Supremacy is worth it, especially if you have seen the first one. Some questions are answered.

These movies remind me of the tv show McGuyver, where things happen very quickly, and the guy seems to pull stuff out of thin air.
Entertaining? Yes.
Realistic? No.

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