Derek Smart and Freespace 3?

A speculative question from 3000 AD's Derek Smart on the Adrenaline Vault Forums (thanks Rake) polls interest in him acquiring the rights to Freespace 3, making the following statements in a pair of posts:
....Derek Smart, yeah, that would be me, got the license from my friends at Interplay (a publisher I had very good experiences with); would you buy Freespace 3 if I made it?

Discuss. Rave. Rant. Argue. But this is something I am seriously considering, given that it looks like Interplay has started off loading properties (starting with Fallout3). I mean, just think. Would you rather see this legacy license fall into the wrong hands?
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I have already contacted my Interplay contact about it btw.
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Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:35
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Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:35
Jul 15, 2004, 19:35
 
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Re: Tron 2.0 Review
Jul 15, 2004, 19:36
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Re: Tron 2.0 Review Jul 15, 2004, 19:36
Jul 15, 2004, 19:36
 
Would you rather see this legacy license fall into the wrong hands?

Oh my god, I can't believe this. Someone please make mention that Derek Smart is "the wrong hands"

If he got hold of it Freespace 3 would probably look worse then the last version and require 5 manuals.

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:39
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:39
Jul 15, 2004, 19:39
 
It would be hard to screw up...but I'm sure Derek is up to it.



Woo, nothing better in gaming than slamming Derek Smart and his phony PhD. Anyone remember all those HUGE flamewars in the Usenet comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* in days of yor? Ahh, good times.


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Re: No subject
Jul 15, 2004, 19:40
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Re: No subject Jul 15, 2004, 19:40
Jul 15, 2004, 19:40
 
What do you mean? DErek Smart is teh gr8est dezyner eVar!!11! Just ask him; he'll tell you in a 3 page dissertation and then beat up a vending machine.

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Derek Smart = the wrong hands
Jul 15, 2004, 19:41
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Derek Smart = the wrong hands Jul 15, 2004, 19:41
Jul 15, 2004, 19:41
 
I see snide had the exact same idea as me. Even an ego the size of Dereck Fucking Smart can't be THAT arrogant to think that HE would create the next Freespace and it'd be everything we'd ever hoped it would be. Can it?

Comparing his battlecruiser series to Freespace is tantamount to fucking heresy. And NOT in Smart's favor.

Derek, if I had to choose between no new Freespace, or seeing you rape it, I'll choose the no new Freespace. A game of yours will NEVER see my money.

Then again, to be honest, I also can't see who Interplay would sell Freespace to that would make it any good, except the original guys from Volition, and you know they're plenty happy making shitty PSX2 shooters.

Farewell Freespace. Your magnificent capships will be sorely missed.

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Re: major suckage
Jul 15, 2004, 19:43
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Re: major suckage Jul 15, 2004, 19:43
Jul 15, 2004, 19:43
 
here's some quotes from the Hard Light Productions forums, where Derek Smart posted. Just to let you know, Hard Light Productions (HLP) is the biggest Freespace community out there, so if you want to discuss, get your asses over here:

http://dynamic4.gamespy.com/~freespace/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25162

and now, for the quotes:

If I wanted to make a Freespace 3 title, I don't think me checking in with a group of fans going in a different direction is in the best interests of my end goal. I mean, think about it. They're making something from someone else's code base. They have their own plans, ideas, goals and whatnot - none of which will ever reach the critical mass that would warrant a full retail effort. Ever.

I have absolutely NO intentions of using ANY of the Freespace2 source code because its legacy and its just going to be trouble from the word go. My plan - if I get it - is to start from scratch with a clean slate and only the Freespace mythos, backstory and assets (e.g. the ship types, names, dimensions etc) as a starting point.

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As for greatest. A game does not have to be great. It just has to be FUN and PROFITABLE.

If you knew ANYTHING about the business of game development or the responsibilities of game developers and publishers, you would immediately recognize the ludicrousness of your post."


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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:45
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:45
Jul 15, 2004, 19:45
 
Oh this if F*cking great! NOT!!!

How about I get a blank cd and Sh*t on it and save him the trouble.

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:47
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:47
Jul 15, 2004, 19:47
 
Oh sweet jesus don't let this fucker get his hands on Freespace.

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:48
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:48
Jul 15, 2004, 19:48
 
FreeSpace2 is still in my top 5 games I've ever played... falling short behind Deus Ex, Tribes, Outcast, and Far Cry.

I'd play FreeSapce3 in a heartbeat. I'd pay $100 for it.

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:50
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:50
Jul 15, 2004, 19:50
 
You know I think this f*cker is just doing this to piss off the fans. He just bought the Freespace license as a way to stick it to the fans since freespace was good and his BC games have sucked.

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:51
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:51
Jul 15, 2004, 19:51
 
I'd play FreeSapce3 in a heartbeat. I'd pay $100 for it.

I doubt you would say that if its made by DSmart.

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:54
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:54
Jul 15, 2004, 19:54
 
Thats the most depressing news I've heard in a long time...

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 19:59
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 19:59
Jul 15, 2004, 19:59
 
Derek Smart is a dick and his games suck plain and simple

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 20:02
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 20:02
Jul 15, 2004, 20:02
 
What is so bad about him?


Of course, I haven't played any of his games.

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Re: No subject
Jul 15, 2004, 20:08
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Jul 15, 2004, 20:08
 
I would look foward to the game if:

1.) Derek liscensed a 3rd party engine.
2.) Hired professional texture and 3D artists.
3.) shared the production responsibilities with another industry veteran to temper Dereks feature-creep tendencies.
4.) A cocktail of Haldol™ and Paxil™ to be given once per day in the AM.

It would work, I'm tellin' ya...

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Re: No subject
Jul 15, 2004, 20:12
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Jul 15, 2004, 20:12
 
He's just grandstanding but if he were to go through with it, once the finished project hit the shelves even his loyal toadies would abandon him because of the shit state of the game.

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Re: No subject
Jul 15, 2004, 20:15
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Re: No subject Jul 15, 2004, 20:15
Jul 15, 2004, 20:15
 
Well today I read that Doom 3 would be out first week of August. Today I hear that Derek Smart wants to acquire Freespace. Why does goodnews and badnews come as a pair?

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Re: Oh my
Jul 15, 2004, 20:17
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Re: Oh my Jul 15, 2004, 20:17
Jul 15, 2004, 20:17
 
"Would you rather see this legacy license fall into the wrong hands?"

Holy shit! Just when I think Derek Smart is the most arrogant being in existence, he tops himself yet again with that doosey of a line. For Freespace to fall into the hands of this fucking dellusional narcissist is a tragedy. For those who don't know of him, look him up. Derek Smart could fuck up a free lunch. It would take ages, be complicated to fuck up, he'd think it was revolutionary, but rest assured it would be fucked up good and proper.

Ahh, that's better. You alway feel good after a DS rant.

"Woo, nothing better in gaming than slamming Derek Smart and his phony PhD. Anyone remember all those HUGE flamewars in the Usenet comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.* in days of yor? Ahh, good times."]

HeHe, those made the diagreements in here seem bland.

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Re: No subject
Jul 15, 2004, 20:17
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Re: No subject Jul 15, 2004, 20:17
Jul 15, 2004, 20:17
 
More Smartness:

I have NO time nor patience for an unruly, snivelling, self-serving fanbase.
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And if you guys think I'm thinking some pantsy ass console shooter, think again. I'm thinking build an ENTIRE ship in 3D from the inside and out. Then merge it all with a great action focused (with mouse flight controls!!!) campaign that would be true to the franchise. Maybe a few planetary missions (well, I have the tech, why the hell not?) missions to move the campaign story along.

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Re: No subject
Jul 15, 2004, 20:19
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Re: No subject Jul 15, 2004, 20:19
Jul 15, 2004, 20:19
 
I don't think he should get the licensed to the game plain and simple. I think if he had a production team he could pull it off, well that is if he lost 99% of his humongous ego haha but I agree with number 4) and maybe a girlfriend.

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