Shellshock: Nam '67 Gold and Delayed

This Eidos Profit Warning (thanks Frans) shares Eidos' concern about their margins for this fiscal year, combining the contradictory news that ShellShock: Nam '67, their upcoming Vietnam shooter is both complete, and delayed. That's right, in spite of pronouncing "ShellShock: Nam '67, has been approved on PS2, is completed on PC and Xbox approval is expected imminently," the article goes on to warn not to expect the game's release until September, citing a soft market and a traditional summer slow season as the reasons for this unusual move:
On May 20, 2004, the Company reported that the recent and unexpected softness in the games market, particularly in the US, was negatively impacting unit sales of Hitman: Contracts even though it was charting well in Europe and the US (and continues to do so). Since that time, this market trend has not reversed and the industry is about to enter the traditionally quieter summer period for game sales. Given these circumstances, and notwithstanding that the game is now ready to release, the Board has decided to hold the release of ShellShock: Nam '67 until September so as to provide this important new franchise with a better opportunity to deliver its true potential.
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Re: how about..
Jun 18, 2004, 22:33
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Jun 18, 2004, 22:33
 
I hope this game doesn't suck like BF:Vietnam did.

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how about..
Jun 18, 2004, 10:07
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how about.. Jun 18, 2004, 10:07
Jun 18, 2004, 10:07
 
Mayhap the title is infected with StarForce 3.3.. and since the recent surge of anti-copywrong viruses from their customers, they've decided to wait a bit for the storm to settle...

Maybe they're working on a patch.

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Blah blah blah
Jun 18, 2004, 03:39
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Jun 18, 2004, 03:39
 
1. So, the PR speak is just saying something is wrong? <yawn>

2. Look, Hitman has never been a revolutionary title, but it has often been fun or amusing. Hitman 2 definitely took some long, forward strides whereas Hitman: Contracts literally was more of the same. Yeah, yeah, some things got polished in the old levels, but it was easily the least improved/amazing of all the three games.

3. Do not necessarily blame the market outright; a lot of crap has been pushed out by many a developer and the Eidos name certainly has some controversy around it...

4. You know, I am incredibly sick of this "They all buy games in winter!" thing. When was this last accurately tested? I mean, the market has so heavily favored the Christmas season for so long, I wonder how any of the current data could be relevant. Personally, I do not have a damn thing to play these days. I picked up Arcanum - an old, outdated RPG - to play for a bit and even that will be over soon (ahhh...the joys of a god-like level 38 melee fighter.)

Looking at release dates, looking at all four platforms (PC, Xbox, GC, PS2,) there is one game each that I am interested in for the months of July and August respectively. Now, looking at October through December, again counting all platforms, there are seventeen(!!!) games that I am interested in.

Yeah, over half of those will be delayed outright :o, but it shows the major imbalance of the developers/publishers. It is not that I only buy games at that time - that is when all the damn AAA games are scheduled. Take any two of those games and release them now; I would immediately go out and purchase them. Meanwhile, come holiday time, even I will only be able to purchase so many of those games. For...well, at least one or two :o...of those games, I either will not purchase them at all or only at an incredibly cheap ($20?) price point - forcing down the market price for the titles and/or taking away from potential income.

5. The delay will not help the game all, unless it has more to do with internal company issues or it has obvious design/technical issues. In which case, the entire press release is utter crap.

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Re: No subject
Jun 18, 2004, 02:32
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Jun 18, 2004, 02:32
 
Recorded during the executive meeting:
"No one knows about our game. I doubt anyone's going to buy it. Maybe if we release during the HL2\D3 chaos, a few people will pick up the box on accident."

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Jun 17, 2004, 23:00
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Jun 17, 2004, 23:00
 
This does sound retarded. Anyone know if it has been done in the past and what were the financial results? To me if a game is good, it will sell no matter when it's release. I have bad vibes about this game.

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Jun 17, 2004, 22:54
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Jun 17, 2004, 22:54
 
Pretty retarded, but this IS Eidos we're talking about.

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Jun 17, 2004, 21:36
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Jun 17, 2004, 21:36
 
Lets look at this in a positive light. Well hey, they have a few months to test the crap out of it and make improvements till its release, so its not all bad. Likely hood of that happening? Slim.


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Jun 17, 2004, 21:20
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Jun 17, 2004, 21:20
 
All that's posted is too true. But the big trouble is that now, this game could find a cult following during the 'supposedly slow' summer months. Now it'll get lost in the torrent of good/cool games come september.

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Jun 17, 2004, 19:02
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Jun 17, 2004, 19:02
 
Agreed.
I think September is one of the highest months for new PC Games as well. Doesn't this mean publishers have a higher potential to lose more sales from the gamer on a budget? I.e. choosing a better game from their perspective.



Mark.

"paradigm shift" (p.10)
"awareness is prerequisite to all acceptable changes of theory" (p. 67)
Reference: Kuhn, Thomas, S., "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions", Second Edition, Enlarged, The University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 1970(19

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Mark.

"paradigm shift" (p.10)
"awareness is prerequisite to all acceptable changes of theory" (p. 67)
Reference: Kuhn, Thomas, S., "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions", Second Edition, Enlarged, The University of Chicago Press, Chicago, 1970(1962)
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Jun 17, 2004, 17:37
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Jun 17, 2004, 17:37
 
'Soft game market' is a joke. How "soft" would the market be if HL2 and D3 were released tomorrow?

Make a good game, people will buy it. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

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Let's wait.... and lose
Jun 17, 2004, 17:33
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Jun 17, 2004, 17:33
 
This meeting would have been fun to be at.

"Hey guys, we've got a finished produce here. Let's keep it."
"Yeah, that way someone can leak it and we'll never make a dime off of it because they already have the finished version!"
"That sounds great, I'm in."

Sheesh...

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Re: OOh yeah...
Jun 17, 2004, 17:28
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Jun 17, 2004, 17:28
 
fucking suits.

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Jun 17, 2004, 17:13
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Jun 17, 2004, 17:13
 
god forbid they don't release the world war first person shooter...
we've never seen any of those...for fucks sakes.

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Re: Delayed
Jun 17, 2004, 16:50
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Jun 17, 2004, 16:50
 
This game does have potential. Ironicaly most Vietnam based war games I've purchased in the past were good games. I was really looking forward to it. I must agree with some of the other posters here. How could competing agaisnt Half Life 2 and Doom 3 be more profitable?

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How did this smoke get up my ass?
Jun 17, 2004, 16:04
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Jun 17, 2004, 16:04
 
What a crock of shit. Since when has Summer been a bad time to sell anything that is primarily aimed at the under-30 market? I guess that's why all those big action movie blockbusters never come out in the Summer?

This is what happens when an industry becomes bloated and corrupt. When someone drops the ball, absconds with the funds, or there's a corporate power struggle underway, they have to find some insanely lame reasoning why.

Take the game industry back - support small, independent game developers and let the mega-scumbags starve to death.

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Re: More lies
Jun 17, 2004, 14:47
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Jun 17, 2004, 14:47
 
or were some of the ethnic lot actually funny?

Certainly some of the "non-white" male and female contestants who made it deserve to be there, but not as many as they picked. Hell even a couple "white" people shouldn't even be in the finals as they weren't funny, they were just people that the 'production' team felt would make waves in the 'house'. So it didn't really come down to talent in the end, just what looekd better for ratings.

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Jun 17, 2004, 14:37
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Jun 17, 2004, 14:37
 
I can only hope that translates to, the bush economy is SO ucking bad right now, that we would do better in September, even thou we would be going against Giants.

Thou, if is was a good game it would sell well most anytime.

Or quite possibly this could me that Eidos never ceases to amaze me with thier lack of intelligence.

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No, no, no you have got it all wrong, why make a great game when you can make a halfassed game!

But I don't get a sense you're listening, so, fuck it, let's go to Hell!
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Re: More lies
Jun 17, 2004, 14:15
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Jun 17, 2004, 14:15
 
so, did u get an idea as to what the judges selection would have been? were they all white? or were some of the ethnic lot actually funny?


I hate the political correctness crap. choosing some black guy so as to be 'fair' to the world in general, when the other guy is obviously more talented is so damn annoying.

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Re: More lies
Jun 17, 2004, 13:08
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Jun 17, 2004, 13:08
 
There is a show called last comic standing on TV. The judges were drew carey, brett butler and 2 other people I forget.

Yeah, I watched that last night also, and the selection was crap. The one guy from NY was killing me, the one with the crappy apratment and he had gone to Law School and the one that told the cameras to screw at the end of the show, his timing was great and he had an awesome set. The show is TOTALLY fixed, they just picked a token person to represent some male or female ethnical group and sexual orientation (your token unfunny gay guy) for TV ratings, stupid. I'm not going to even watch it anymore, dumb.

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Jun 17, 2004, 12:49
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Jun 17, 2004, 12:49
 
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