Doesn't the Architect say that "this will be the sixth time", and not that it's already been done 6 times previous?

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O for a voice like thunder, and a tongue
To drown the throat of war!

Oh yeah, Blue, how was Disco Fever last night? Have you sent the leisure suit back to the closet for another year?

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O for a voice like thunder, and a tongue
To drown the throat of war!

I guess this all speaks again to how disappointed I was in how few further wrinkles about all this were included in Matrix Reloaded.

The other day I watched the original Matrix and Reloaded right afterwards. I actually enjoyed Reloaded the first time I saw it, but when you watch the two back-to-back like that you really realize just how much of a drop in quality there is from the first to the second (I haven't rewatched the 3rd since I saw it in theatres, but wasn't impressed the first time I saw it either).

PZ
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Reading: Reading:BF Skinner's "Beyond Freedom And Dignity"

Oh yeah, Blue, how was Disco Fever last night? Have you sent the leisure suit back to the closet for another year?

Yeah, nice way to cover up there, Blue (:D) Try to use the jedi mind trick and distrack us with Matrix talk...

WalterEgo - where's the dance floor pics?!

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he other day I watched the original Matrix and Reloaded right afterwards. I actually enjoyed Reloaded the first time I saw it, but when you watch the two back-to-back like that you really realize just how much of a drop in quality there is from the first to the second

I liked Reloaded...the third one is when it totally dropped off. Morp becomes this 2d character in the background, a certain person DIES that seemed needless, we're supposed to be concerned/entertained with Jada "no emotion" Picket Smith, and then we don't really know what happened to Neo? WTF?

I get pissed just thinking about that movie...




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I really wish I could go back in time and stop myself from seeing Reloaded and Revolutions, because the original was so great, even with the open ending, and then it just gets smashed to pieces by the shittiness of the other two.

blue,

he actually says that "this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it"...

here is a link to a transcript of the talk, with mouse-over word definitions in case someone doesn't know what "ergo" means!

http://www.leesmovieinfo.net/special/MatrixReloadedSpeech1.php

and yes, the "old neo" would be a part of zion, likely a member of the councel... it is my opinion that the old Neo is the guy who gave the speech to the new Neo down in the engineering section in Zion.

- tron -
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"tron is big and tron is full of action"
-from the Tron 2.0 box
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and yes, the "old neo" would be a part of zion, likely a member of the councel... it is my opinion that the old Neo is the guy who gave the speech to the new Neo down in the engineering section in Zion.

But I thought the old guy didn't have the imputs all over his body like Neo does? (I don't remember seeing any on his head or arms.)

People look so snooty, Take pills make them moody, Automatic bzooty, Zero to tutti fruitti, Sex in the halls, Niagra Falls, Local shopping malls receive Anonymous calls

the old guy didn't have the inputs all over his body

hmmm... good point, if true. i never really looked for that. maybe he just does a great job with the make-up every day...??

btw, nin - what do you think of the new skinny puppy?

- tron -
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"tron is big and tron is full of action"
-from the Tron 2.0 box

Maybe there have been a few generations in Zion and the old Neo is long dead.

I'd always figured the architect was going to kill Neo after he'd chosen the people for the next Zion. Yeah, I didn't think about who'd explain the truth to them, but maybe they'd have figured it out for themselves ("Nobody can be told what the matrix is - they have to see it for themselves" ?)

Doesn't mean there was a Neo the first time around. He could have just scrapped it because he realized he needed a messiah figure to make it work.

Love that zombie article!

Anyone have online footage of that bee incident? I'd love to see it.

Quantum state teleportation = good!

Shell boss worried about CO2 emissions? I'd think he'd be decidely more worried about Peak Oil as it's almost here. Sounds more like a PR stunt than a real concern, however.

That cloud shot is trippy. Enahs must have been smoking lottsa' blunts for that one.


"What is this? Some kind of freakout?"
- Hank Hill

btw, nin - what do you think of the new skinny puppy?

Haven't checked it out yet...I've managed to get over 40 cds in the mail this week (2-3 more due today or tomorrow) that I have to rip/check out this weekend. SP isn't one of them.

(There's a lot of Orbital, Underworld, and Muse, though.)



People look so snooty, Take pills make them moody, Automatic bzooty, Zero to tutti fruitti, Sex in the halls, Niagra Falls, Local shopping malls receive Anonymous calls

The 2nd and third are just ho-hum sci-fi flicks. They only stand out for the fight scenes. The first was awesome.

Yeah, nice way to cover up there, Blue Try to use the jedi mind trick and distrack us with Matrix talk...

It's working, we're all talking about the Matrix instead!

"You don't need to see WalterEgo's pictures of Blue disco-dancing."

"These aren't the Blue dancing videos you're looking for."

"You may go on discussing the Matrix."

"Move along..."




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He also said: <something like> "I don't sleep much... I figure I spent the first part of my life asleep."

Oh, and if anyone wants to vote for me:
http://www.proud-fiers.gc.ca/2004/forms/VotePhoto_e.asp

Mine is the deep blue one called: "Saluting The Sun"

Which wasn't even the title I gave it...

Full version can be found in my gallery: http://wiwijumbo.deviantart.com/gallery/

This could be considered cheating, but hey... I want to win.

That cloud shot is trippy. Enahs must have been smoking lottsa' blunts for that one.

Hey...you know me!...

Ohh wait, no ya don't!

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A post by Enahs; the only difference between me and Jesus is he could walk on water.....sober.

Yours is actually the best anyway, WJ. You got my vote. The "boosting" relations one was pretty funny. Good pun too.

Your gallery is pretty spiffy. I like your Eiffel at Night: Vertigo and Fall Leaf.

*insert elitist art comment here* It reminds me of mans inhumanity towards man. And that we are doomed to the ultimate horrification of our bare existence.


"What is this? Some kind of freakout?"
- Hank Hill

He also said: <something like> "I don't sleep much... I figure I spent the first part of my life asleep."

You're right. I forgot about that line until you mentioned it. Hmmm...

People look so snooty, Take pills make them moody, Automatic bzooty, Zero to tutti fruitti, Sex in the halls, Niagra Falls, Local shopping malls receive Anonymous calls

Was this linked to for Media of the Day?

http://twonotesolo.com/osn/travis1.html



-TPFKAS2S
http://www.braglio.com

The way the music died:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/music/view/

he actually says that "this will be the sixth time we have destroyed it"...

How stupid do I feel for not making sure of that before making a big deal about it here?

I am still interested in the former Neo thing though. I want to see it again in light of the theory that this councilman might be the previous Neo...

Was this linked to for Media of the Day?

http://twonotesolo.com/osn/travis1.html

I don't know, but it should have been!! I'm crying over here I'm laughing so hard, and I think a little bit of pee came out!

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O for a voice like thunder, and a tongue
To drown the throat of war!