SÖLDNER Patch Plans

The Official SÖLDNER Website has word on plans for a patch for the European version of the new shooter, saying more details will be released today: "We are also currently working on a patch/update which is currently in testphase. June, 1st we will provide a list of the changes/improvements that will be implemented in the upcoming update." Thanks Frans.
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Re: No subject
Jun 21, 2004, 15:28
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Re: No subject Jun 21, 2004, 15:28
Jun 21, 2004, 15:28
 
Thx, nin.

It should really be called the "Let's get Bush!" commission. You want to read some REALLY interesting stuff, do a search for Jamie Gorelic. You think the 180 was alarming.........

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Re: No subject
Jun 21, 2004, 09:12
nin
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Re: No subject Jun 21, 2004, 09:12
Jun 21, 2004, 09:12
nin
 
And, the 9-11 commission is a farce

Credit where credit is due, to Inkswitch:

http://www.upi.com/view.cfm?StoryID=20040620-050700-2315r

I may not agree with it, but the way the commission just did a 180 on this is rather alarming...




There is the theory of the moebius, a twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop time becomes a loop time becomes a loop http://www.loopz.co.uk/
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Re: No subject
Jun 19, 2004, 08:46
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Re: No subject Jun 19, 2004, 08:46
Jun 19, 2004, 08:46
 
Bunny,

The links I gave you are not from the same political persuasion. FOX and ABC are absolutely polar opposites as far as political leanings go. All news organizations are carrying this story.

And, the 9-11 commission is a farce. Here's why. At absolutely NO time did the current administration say that Iraq was involved with Al Queda in 9-11. That is the commissions findings: That Al Queda and Iraq weren't both responsible for 9-11, just Al Queda. The problem with this finding is that Bush and his administration NEVER said that. EVER. You cannot find ANY quotes from the administration linking Iraq to 9-11. What the administration said was that Iraq was involved and supported terrorism. Which is ENTIRELY true. It is well known that Saddam supported terrorists and even paid sucide-bomber's families money for their son/daughter's "sacrifice". These facts are not in doubt. The President said we were going after any and all terrorists wherever they were. And, that's what we are doing now.

What you are seeing is a political attempt to discredit the president by shifting focus away from reality in an election year. Indeed, even to focus away from those truly responsible, the people who were running the CIA and FBI for the last several years. Which happens to be one of the members of the "commission". A member who absolutely refused to resign from the "commission" due to obvious conflict-of-interest issues.

And, sorry bunny. Personal liberties and constitutional rights are wholly an American invention. Go ahead and name one country that had these prior to America. One.

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Re: No subject
Jun 18, 2004, 20:21
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Re: No subject Jun 18, 2004, 20:21
Jun 18, 2004, 20:21
 
"I'd say he's opinionated (like the rest of us here), but I wouldn't call him a fool. After going back and reading his comments, I think he honestly believes in what he says. The political landscape is very polarized right now, and both sides firmly believe they have the best plans for the future of this country.

I think it's better to believe in something than to have no opinion at all... "

The difference being I have a degree of respect for his opinion (even if I do try and childishly bait him by calling him a fool or a buffoon) but he respects nobody's. Anyone who has a different view on the matter or who gets their news from a different source to his is automatically wrong.

I would not say he is 100% wrong or I am 100% right just two sides of a coin - but he can't see that. He only see'sone side and if you do not agree you are a BBC watching liberal.

**For the record I do not even have an arial in my house. My TV is specifically there for console gaming. My news comes from the 7 papers I read daily (from all aspects of the political horizon) and the many internet news sites I read (many of whom are free of most forms of censorship).**

however, his opinion, his belief that the USA somehow won WW2 all on their own and the world owe the USA its freedom is just plain sad.

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Jun 18, 2004, 19:38
nin
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Re: No subject Jun 18, 2004, 19:38
Jun 18, 2004, 19:38
nin
 
You are a small minded fool. You accuse me of only watching left wing media (or one news station - the BBC) when all your leanings come from one political side. You also accuse any news you disagree with of being lies - the investigation on 9/11 by your own countrymen is all lies is it? yet none of what Bush says is?


I'd say he's opinionated (like the rest of us here), but I wouldn't call him a fool. After going back and reading his comments, I think he honestly believes in what he says. The political landscape is very polarized right now, and both sides firmly believe they have the best plans for the future of this country.

I think it's better to believe in something than to have no opinion at all...


There is the theory of the moebius, a twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop time becomes a loop time becomes a loop http://www.loopz.co.uk/
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Re: No subject
Jun 18, 2004, 19:13
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Re: No subject Jun 18, 2004, 19:13
Jun 18, 2004, 19:13
 
So come on, tell me why the USA or even the UK - both of who supplied Iraq with weapons and knowhow - are any different from Iraq. Do we both not share a tenuous link with Al Queda?

With the current actions being taken the world is becomming an increasingly dangerous place to live and more and more innocent people will suffer on both sides. Paul Johnson and Nicholas Berg are two such examples and I fear this will only degenerate further until that part of the world is no longer safe for those from the west.
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Re: No subject
Jun 18, 2004, 19:13
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Re: No subject Jun 18, 2004, 19:13
Jun 18, 2004, 19:13
 
They may not be the same parent company but all your links have the same political leanings and believe it or not, that influences the news they broadcast.

You are a small minded fool. You accuse me of only watching left wing media (or one news station - the BBC) when all your leanings come from one political side. You also accuse any news you disagree with of being lies - the investigation on 9/11 by your own countrymen is all lies is it? yet none of what Bush says is?

You need to open your eyes and your mind. Try having your OWN opinion and looking at things from all angles instead of being spoon fed everything your chosen media gives you.

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Re: No subject
Jun 18, 2004, 09:23
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Re: No subject Jun 18, 2004, 09:23
Jun 18, 2004, 09:23
 
ABC and Fox are not owned by the same parent company.

Feel free to do a search for yourself. You'll find plenty of links from plenty of different parent companies for each news source.

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Jun 18, 2004, 09:00
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No subject Jun 18, 2004, 09:00
Jun 18, 2004, 09:00
 
hey comrade, the links you posted inkswitch are all owned by the same news groups.

btw, whatever happended to freedom of speech, like those who's opinions differ from yours or doesn't that count ?

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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 18:10
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 18:10
Jun 17, 2004, 18:10
 
"As stated before. Al Queda was never associated with Saddam in the 9-11 attack. Terrorism was. And, that is absolutely true. Saddam had many links to terrorists. Al Queda is just one of many organizations bent on destroying democracy. And, Iraqi agents are definately known to have contact with Al Queda prior to 9-11. This doesn't mean that Saddam had anything to do with the planning. It means that he consorts and supports terrorism. Attacking Iraq is just part of the war against terrorism."

So, in other words anyone with a link to terrorism is a threat to the Western world? Anyone with a link to terrorism should be dealt with in this manner?

Ok - well your govenrment agencies trained Osama Bin Laden. Your government gave Saddam the bulk of his weapons. Much of the weapons used by the IRA had direct links to the USA. Many US corporations were linked with making payments to the IRA so that their franchises would not be targeted.

You are saying that you can be guilty by association so nobody here is clean yet we have ONE nation policing the rest of the globe?? What makes you right and them so wrong??

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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 17:36
nin
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 17:36
Jun 17, 2004, 17:36
nin
 
They hate us for more than just meddling. They hate us because our type of society is a direct threat to theirs.

Now see, there we agree 100%!

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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 17:27
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 17:27
Jun 17, 2004, 17:27
 
Sensible post, nin.

I don't agree with the idea that if we stay away from those countries that they will leave us alone, though. I am of the opinion that diplomacy time is over. They hate us for more than just meddling. They hate us because our type of society is a direct threat to theirs. They seem to respect force, so I believe we should provide it.

And, Iraq definately is not a happy/joy place. Just a lot better (and improving) than it was before we got there. We agree.

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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 15:18
nin
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 15:18
Jun 17, 2004, 15:18
nin
 
We have the same right in Afghanastan, Iraq, Syria, Iran, and a couple other M.E. countries


But when we move into Iraq or any of the other countries you mentioned, it only bolsters the claims that terrorists make about us. We DO look like we're taking over. We DO look domineering. (And we both know that's not the goal, but that's what it looks like to the average person that lives there.) We're making MORE enemies in the Middle East the longer we're in Iraq. And the more enemies we make, the more those people are going to sympathetic to those against us.

So by playing cowboy on our own, we're making things worse for ourselves in the long run...

And I'm not saying Iraq isn't a better place now that Saddam is gone - my gripe is when monkeyboy tries to paint it as a big happy place with everything under control, when it clearly isn't.



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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 14:18
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 14:18
Jun 17, 2004, 14:18
 
We had every right to march into Japan and Germany and change their leaders. If you don't understand this, you are lost. We have the same right in Afghanastan, Iraq, Syria, Iran, and a couple other M.E. countries. Because they support terrorism and attacks against democratic countries. Every country has a right to respond to any attack. It is now obvious that small, rogue groups can mortally wound a nation's economy and kill thousands of it's citizens in one blow. We reserve the right to attack and remove those governments who support or even turn a blind eye to such groups.

As stated before. Al Queda was never associated with Saddam in the 9-11 attack. Terrorism was. And, that is absolutely true. Saddam had many links to terrorists. Al Queda is just one of many organizations bent on destroying democracy. And, Iraqi agents are definately known to have contact with Al Queda prior to 9-11. This doesn't mean that Saddam had anything to do with the planning. It means that he consorts and supports terrorism. Attacking Iraq is just part of the war against terrorism.

Iraq is much bettor off today. The only reason you don't think so is that your news sources never bothered to report all the horrible acts perpetrated by Saddam. They only like to report things that put the US in a bad light. They don't like to mention the tens of thousands of peope Saddam had murdered. They don't like to mention the rape rooms, and REAL torture chambers. Not the "torture" that is happening in the prison now. REAL torture. Like your hands being cut off, or your ear being cut off. Like your wife and daughters being raped to death in front of you. No, they like to dwell on perfectly legal methods of interrogation. Hoods and nudity are not torture. They are methods of humiliation which is entirely acceptable by our laws. And, we have the most humane interrogation methods on the planet.

They also don't mention all the infrastructure that Saddam allowed to fall to crap and that we have restored. You know, things like water and electricity. Schools and roads. Hospitals and many other services unknown for decades in Iraq.



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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 13:40
nin
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 13:40
Jun 17, 2004, 13:40
nin
 
Both are viable, democratic nations now.

What right do we have to march into other countries and change their leadership? I'm sure Hitler thought that was a great idea also...

And are you saying we should totally dismantle the UN based on one event? That the ENTIRE UN is corrupt?


We can absolutely do this again with the middle east. It just takes time and determination.

OK, time for your drug test. The majority of the Middle East hates us - shall we invade them too? Let's see, you want to go after Iran, Syria, and N Korea, and now rest of the Middle East, too? Why, we'll need a draft for that! How exciting!

edit: Hell, we can't even handle Iraq right now - you suppose the rest of the Middle East will go quietly?

edit again: Oh, and here's your liar's daily pep-talk (hold your nose, there's a lot of bullshit in there): http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=71000001&refer=top_world_news&sid=azMEdM2f.xzQ

``The world is better off and America is more secure without Saddam Hussein in power,'' the president said.

Yeah, Iraq is safe and sound now...except for those 41 killed and over 100 wounded this morning. THINGS ARE GETTING BETTER ALREADY!

At least 833 U.S. soldiers have been killed since the war began in March 2003, with 693 deaths since May 1 of that year, when Bush declared major hostilities over, Pentagon figures show.

Or not!



The Iraq war, with its mounting casualties, increased bombings and prison abuse, is hurting Bush in public opinion polls. A Los Angeles Times poll June 5-8 found 53 percent of those surveyed said going to war wasn't worth the cost, while 43 percent said it was. The poll surveyed 1,230 registered voters.





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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 12:35
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 12:35
Jun 17, 2004, 12:35
 
We don't want millions of people dead. We want the terrorism to die. We want the mindset changed. Just like we changed the mindset of Japan and Germany. Both are viable, democratic nations now. Peacefull nations that were once bent on world domination. We can absolutely do this again with the middle east. It just takes time and determination.

And, what facts specifically would you like linked? The UN corruption? I'll be happy to provide.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/1087388567324_4?hub=Canada

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/WNT/Investigation/oil_for_food_ripoff_040420-1.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,117723,00.html

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/editorialsopinion/2001924029_oil4fooded10.html

http://www.washtimes.com/op-ed/20040322-082824-9902r.htm

http://cbn.org/CBNNews/News/040513a.asp

All respected news agencies. And, you'll notice that most are extremely left-leaning organizations. Even they can't cover this one up.

If you were talking about some other facts to be linked, just let me know.

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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 12:08
nin
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 12:08
Jun 17, 2004, 12:08
nin
 
Um...linkage to back any of that up?


edit:
Maybe then we could kill millions instead of thousands

But I thought that's what you wanted? Remember when you said:

We have declared war on terrorism. Not just Al Queda. All of them. This will include Iran, Syria, and N Korea as well.



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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 11:58
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 11:58
Jun 17, 2004, 11:58
 
Yeah. We should work with the UN. We should work with an organization that took money from Saddam to prop up his government and help murder thousands of people.


The UN is corrupt. Period. You are about to see a wholesale reorganization if not elimination of the UN due to the food-for-oil scandal in which virtually all of the council members were on the take. Not to mention that the investigatory body that has jusisdiction over the affair is itself part of the coruption. Not to mention that the UN makes mandates that it doesn't enforce.

Yeah. We should work with the UN. Maybe then we could kill millions instead of thousands and the whole world can be ruled by petty dictators and religious zealots.

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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 11:00
nin
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 11:00
Jun 17, 2004, 11:00
nin
 
You might want to consider that your news organizations might be lying to you.

Well, I'd trust the news before I trust monkeyboy.


Their credibility here in America is seriously lacking.

Not unlike our curent president. Oh, wait, he has NO credibility, in this country, or the rest of the world.


But don't worry - once we someone new in the White House, we can stop invading other countries on our own and actually work with the UN, like the rest of the world does.

edit: And BTW, 2 of your losers have been voted off: http://www.dtriptv.org/



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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest
Jun 17, 2004, 10:47
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Re: Two Continents - The US and the Rest Jun 17, 2004, 10:47
Jun 17, 2004, 10:47
 
LOL

Sorry my friend. The 9-11 commision is a farce. Everybody here knows this. It is purely political. Jamie S Gorelic (commitee member) was the author of legislation that prevented information between intelligence agencies to be traded. In other words, SHE IS RESPONSIBLE for the mismanagement of our intelligence agencies in the 9-11 attack. This is well known here in America. As Deputy Attorney General in 1995, Gorelic prevented the FBI and the CIA from sharing information. Gorelic also advised Clinton not to take Bin Laden when the Sudanese had offered him up. These are things the "commision" doesn't want known and what your biased news doesn't want to report. Any finding by the commision will mean absolutely nothing except to people who are willing to overlook certain facts. Their credibility here in America is seriously lacking. The only thing that the commision has to keep up it's viablility is the false accusation that the administration told the public that Iraq was partly responsible for 9-11. This is false. Nowhere can you find such a statement.

Not to mention the fact that the administration has completely debunked any accusations from said commision in detailed and PUBLIC testomony. All transcripts available for your perusal.

And, Al Queda is absolutely in Iraq. I have a video of them beheading an American to prove it. We never stated (prior to invasion)that Iraq was infested with Al Queda. That is a liberal accusation. America attacked Iraq in the first stage of a war against terrorism. Iraq has been a known supporter of terrorism whether with Al Queda or not. We have declared war on terrorism. Not just Al Queda. All of them. This will include Iran, Syria, and N Korea as well.

You might want to consider that your news organizations might be lying to you.

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