etc.

View : : :
15 Replies. 1 pages. Viewing page 1.
Newer [  1  ] Older
15.
 
Re: Someone close the Valve (tee-hee)
Apr 22, 2004, 05:28
15.
Re: Someone close the Valve (tee-hee) Apr 22, 2004, 05:28
Apr 22, 2004, 05:28
 
Only ID and Blizzard remain, and how long before one of them plummets?

Well blizzard have lost their core team so I feel they are at a crossroads; sink or swim time.

Ah well. It's all just a little piece of history repeating. Empires rise and fall. Valve drop the ball, someone else picks it up. And such like.

I still have confidence it'll be a good game. But will it be a memorable one?

-----------------
"Humour is a rubber sword - it allows you to make a point without drawing blood." - Mary Hirsch
----------------
14.
 
Re: Someone close the Valve (tee-hee)
Apr 22, 2004, 00:49
14.
Re: Someone close the Valve (tee-hee) Apr 22, 2004, 00:49
Apr 22, 2004, 00:49
 
its weird to watch these great companies constantly rise and then fail. its like they hit the top and then just go, 'ahh screw it'.

If HL2 wasent likly to be released on time, why publicise it knowing full well the ship date is due to be pushed back?

He also talks about some parts of the game not being upto what the developers claim them to be, which im guessing means that the AI is more scripted than valve is admitting.

Anyways its sad to see companies like Westwood, Sierra, Valve etc be the true greats they were and then come crashing down.

Only ID and Blizzard remain, and how long before one of them plummets?

------
Leading the "Support our Arrow keys" movement!
------
Diablo & Diablo 2 for the DS, it makes sense Blizzard!
13.
 
Someone close the Valve (tee-hee)
Apr 21, 2004, 20:28
13.
Someone close the Valve (tee-hee) Apr 21, 2004, 20:28
Apr 21, 2004, 20:28
 
Valve was all that and a bag of chips back when Half-Life was first out. They were good about patching, and supportive of the mod community, and this allowed Half-Life to become the most popular multiplayer title ever (by that, I mean CS/DoD/NS too). But Valve steadily declined past the milennium, with misleading their customers apparently being their top priority. CS went retail, then DoD did, and both involved changes that were unpopular with their current support base (although they were apparently designed to bring new players in). Then the monumental messes that were the Steam launch and Half-Life 2's Sep 30th release came, and there was much uproar. And neither has really been dealt with; Steam's still had problems with all but the smallest updates, and there's been no apology or much in the way of new information about Half-Life 2.

While there's a lot of talent at work (at play?) in Valve, there's a real problem with their public face and project direction. I think it'd be better for the company if Gabe Newell and Doug Lombardi wrote up letters of resignation and left to piss off their fanbase with some other company. EA's hiring, right? I'm sure they'd fit right in.

Avatar 19465
12.
 
No subject
Apr 21, 2004, 20:13
12.
No subject Apr 21, 2004, 20:13
Apr 21, 2004, 20:13
 
Anyone know who's the inept guy at Valve that Fragmaster chose not to name? Doug Lombardi?

Gabe Newell

I hope valve goes out of business

Supporter of "The Only Good fredster Is A Dead fredster" fan club

The Former Leader and Victor of the rebel movement against the dark Lord Surewood and his fiendish cohorts(bunko)
Supporter of "The Only Good fredster Is A Dead fredster" fan club
11.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 17:41
11.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 17:41
Apr 21, 2004, 17:41
 
Yes, that is an interesting read. Fanboy or not, it doesn't show Valve in a very good light at all. While I'm personally not too bothered by the bullshit - Steam, delays, lying about delays, it's interesting to read the opinions of someone with - as Ihya rightly says - a certain pedigree to slate them.
Still, I shall buy HL2. As far as the game is concerned I'll judge it then.

_____________________________
Insert funny quote here
Avatar 18712
10.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 16:55
10.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 16:55
Apr 21, 2004, 16:55
 
Interesting read. So HL2 was in no fit shape to ship anywhere near sept... What tactics were they playing I wonder saying it in the first instance?

I always gave Valve the benefit of the doubt over steam/release dates as I've only ever heard word of mouth tales on how poor they operate from jaded gamers. But this guys comes with a certain pedigree to slate them, and so much falls into place...

I hope those HL2 fanboys who recently proclaimed HL2 would be better than Farcry, Doom3 et al are reading that... closely...


-----------------
"Humour is a rubber sword - it allows you to make a point without drawing blood." - Mary Hirsch
----------------

This comment was edited on Apr 21, 17:00.
9.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 16:14
9.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 16:14
Apr 21, 2004, 16:14
 
I was being sardonic. (Look it up.)

8.
 
No subject
Apr 21, 2004, 16:05
8.
No subject Apr 21, 2004, 16:05
Apr 21, 2004, 16:05
 
Sorry to see him go. His forum post was interesting, but not all that surprising. I feel a bit more contempt for Valve than I already had though. Wonder if it was "the man himself"'s genious idea to lie about the release date until they absolutely had to announce the delay.

7.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 14:40
7.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 14:40
Apr 21, 2004, 14:40
 
Seeing as how he is blasting how the company is run it would stand to reason that the inept guy he's referring to is the main man himself.

6.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 13:18
6.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 13:18
Apr 21, 2004, 13:18
 
Anyone know who's the inept guy at Valve that Fragmaster chose not to name? Doug Lombardi?

5.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 12:48
5.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 12:48
Apr 21, 2004, 12:48
 
Yes, because business works on honesty

Oh, that's right... every single business out there is full of lying, deceitful people, and there's no way to become successful unless you are also lying and deceitful.

Damn, I'm glad the universe I live in isn't the same as the universe you live in. Mine's a lot more pleasant.

No, I'm not saying that everyone is honest and trustworthy. I'm merely saying that the inverse is also untrue.

Oh, and since Fragmaster appears to be jockeying for a job in the journalism industry (particularly wrt gaming), integrity in journalism is looked on rather highly.

4.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 12:31
4.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 12:31
Apr 21, 2004, 12:31
 
He's being sarcastic... he's saying that honesty does matter. Fragmaster is a great guy and I know for a fact since I went to college with him. I trust him over Valve and he had every right to "burn his bridge". That won't hurt him one bit.

3.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 11:48
3.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 11:48
Apr 21, 2004, 11:48
 
"Ya...the whole "honesty" thing is totally over-rated. What we need is more people lying to advance their corporate careers. Please-

/look at the big picture in life"

Yes, because business works on honesty. You must be 15 or mormon.

2.
 
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 11:35
2.
Re: Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 11:35
Apr 21, 2004, 11:35
 
Ya...the whole "honesty" thing is totally over-rated. What we need is more people lying to advance their corporate careers. Please-

/look at the big picture in life

1.
 
Goodbye Fagmaster
Apr 21, 2004, 11:19
1.
Goodbye Fagmaster Apr 21, 2004, 11:19
Apr 21, 2004, 11:19
 
Its always a good idea to burn bridges with one of the top game developers that works in the industry you'll undoubtedly get your next job in.

Thats like a janitor taking a paint peeling dump in a toilet he just cleaned.

Hats off to you good sir.

15 Replies. 1 pages. Viewing page 1.
Newer [  1  ] Older