There are probably more people playing Windows Reversi (or any of the other windows net games) than Half-Life.

Maybe, if you exclude CS, DoD, TFC and every other HL mod from the equation.

I wish that the PC had the name protection that XBox Live has, as someone has already taken my Battlefield Vietnam name "John Rambo"...

Yeah...good luck ever beating everyone else to that one.

I'd say MMORPG makes up less than 1 percent of online play, because I think over 99 percent of people aren't dumb enough to keep paying to play a game that have already bought.

In spite of your "evidence" to the contrary, it's probably a substantially larger portion of the PC online community playing MMORPG's. It's safe to say they also spend a lot more time at their "hobby" than your average FPS gamer.

Also, keep in mind--and this is one big issue the "PC vs. Console" article failed to factor in--PC MMORPG players often pay more than just the initial retail cost and monthly subscription fee. For example, how many purchase-only expansions are there for EQ (seriously, I lost track)? Pile the prices of the original and all its expansions together with the monthly payments, and you've got some people who've been milked by one game for maybe $500 or more.

You could go a step further and consider peripheral factors like lost wages (calling in sick to camp the Froglok King) or the +20 Whatever you picked up on eBay, but these only provide negligable, indirect benefits to developers (through increasing obsession with their products) and, in light of at least one suicide, could be seen as negatives.

There are probably more people playing Windows Reversi (or any of the other windows net games) than Half-Life.

I wish that the PC had the name protection that XBox Live has, as someone has already taken my Battlefield Vietnam name "John Rambo"...

I'd say MMORPG makes up less than 1 percent of online play, because I think over 99 percent of people aren't dumb enough to keep paying to play a game that have already bought.

Sony is crazy.

I own a PS2 for 2 years now, and it is starting to suck. I'm currently playing through Final Fantasy X again, and what looked great when it came out, now looks like shite. The only way a PS2 will continue to sell till 2010 is if it is marketed as a cheap DVD player that plays games, which is the opposite of it's current use. XBox currently costs less than PS2 which makes the 2010 date extremely optomistic.

The comparisons are weak, especially since the guy compares the generic 'online' console game vs the niche PC MMORPG market.

Despite the ambiguous title, the article's focus on online fees make it pretty clear the author was specifically commenting on pay-to-play titles (it points out that UT2k4 and such are "quite popular...but those games are free to play").

Concerning only subscription-required games, the article and its title are probably fairly accurate. That makes it not a badly researched piece, just one typed up by a poor author who neglected to state his basic thesis.

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"At the heart of the system will be AMD's AthlonXP2000+processor
chip; video will be supplied by NVIDIA's nForce2 IGP graphics processor"

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

t's monkey business I tells ya...

I wonder if they'll release Monkey Island on it...

..... Ill get my coat....

Now, 750,000 players use Xbox Live

Last time I checked, arn't there more players *just* playing some version of Half life online (cs, tfc, etc...)

I also thought that the comparison was rather weak... MMORPG make up like what, 20% of online play? I'd be curious to know what the *real* figures are......

you take it serious with a name like ApeXtreme??? it's monkey business I tells ya...


EDIT: me fail english? unpossible!
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I still can't believe that they picked that name. Like anyone is really going to call their console the Apex Extreme instead of the Ape Extreme...

This cutting-edge system features the uber Geforce 4 MX card! Oh wait, that would be cutting edge circa 1999. This thing will be obsolete before it hits stores.

Are they serious? Apex Digital can't make a DVD player that lasts more than two weeks and they're talking about a game console? That's hilarious...

Parallax Abstraction
Technical Consultant and Potential Future Microplay Owner
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

... and that's saying a lot, as I wrote it in the final 2 hours of a 2.5 month assignment period.

Whoa, you're even more of a procrastinator than I am! Although, I still have a C-program to write in about 4 hours and I have no clue what I'm doing.. seeing as I'm a ME major.

I don't think you missed it. The comparisons are weak, especially since the guy compares the generic 'online' console game vs the niche PC MMORPG market. This thing reads weaker than my last research paper, and that's saying a lot, as I wrote it in the final 2 hours of a 2.5 month assignment period. "Weak" might be too weak a word, as well. I was hoping for some real facts & figures, not sub-standard fashionable platform bashing.

I dont see any evidence or facts presented in that article that support the claim of the title. Am I missing it?