Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought it was Paul Steed who got fired over deciding to go with Doom 3 instead of Quest.

-LordSteev

Actually I don't remember and I'm too lazy to look it up.

I read an article a while back where Carmack was talking about possibly concentrating on a 3D engine that was basically a full studio. You could create a game, or a 3D full length movie in it if you wanted to. He said that he wasn't far off from doing "Toy Story" type graphics in realtime 3D anyway. I thought this sounded pretty cool.

He comes up with new ideas all the time though, then he just ends up working on the next "quake" or something.. so who knows.

I loved sitting in levels watching a rocket whizz by with headphones on.

me too, gotta love those rockets chilling out to .... oh you mean you had the headphones on, what sort of bad idea is that - turn it up man.

Unless you're talking strictly about plot, uh...how are you defining "original"?

The same type of weaponry/items have been popping up since Doom/Quake. It's just been moulded in a new shape, your basic melee weapon, shotgun and rocketlauncher have allways been there along with six or seven intermediary weapons (double shotgun, machine/chain-, plasma-, lightning- gun).
Plus indeed the repetitve storylines.


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"Not derived from something else; fresh and unusual"

their games have seldom been very original

Unless you're talking strictly about plot, uh...how are you defining "original"?

Check out Quake 2 Evolved:

http://www.planetquake.com/blur/news.htm

Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought it was Paul Steed who got fired over deciding to go with Doom 3 instead of Quest.

yep, the camp that didn't want to do Doom 3 relented but they stipulated that Steed had to pack his bags.

I wonder what happened to him. He was supposed to start his own development studio after he finished working at Wild Tangent. Haven't heard about him since.

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I see the point of considering doing a remake of a game to cut down development time. As it is, the engine itself was or could have been probably done a year ago. John Carmack is probably itching to get his hand on the next generation of graphics, and with making detailed games these days taking ever more time, Id needs to reconsider it's priorities.

One idea is to stop making games altogether and just create game engines and sell those. This would be sad because they do have talented artists, and although their games have seldom been very original, they have been very fun and popular.
Another is to cut down on the quality, making a game just to show off the engine. This is a bad idea, because of the above, and this kind of strategy wouldn't last, because gamers wouldn't buy it (after the third reincarnation of Quake2), unless they would restrict to making budget titles.
The thing I'd consider is developing the engine independant from game development. They could start licencing it as soon as the engine is in such a state, not until the game is finished. Of course this would mean that Id would no longer be the first to use it's own engine, but if they play it right, and use collaborations like with RtcW and Quake4, that wouldn't really be a problem, cause the game will still have 'Id' tagged all over it.

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I gotta agree with some of the posters here. Farcry will make you forget about any game you are waiting for. It's just excellent!

Oh yeah, Doom 3.

I'd forgotten all about it.

By the time Doom3 comes out I'll have found a new hobby and won't give a rats ass.

Thats nice.

Did u guys know that some really good shampoo has whale cum in it???

Guys, you didn't read the whole thing (including the other link) in it's entirety. They're not going to remake Quake 2. That was an old idea before Doom. In the second link Carmack states that they won't be doing Q2 again.

-Tony!!!;)

I don't see why a lot of people are pissed about the rumor about remaking Q2. The single player game was entertaining and the multiplayer was near perfect, and without the lag that games today have. If they are going to remake a game, why not remake on that everybody loves and ressurect it?

Or Duke Nukem.. hehe

"I ain't afraid of no quake"

"The more and more you play Farcry the more you forget about Half-Life 2 and Doom 3.."

agreed, tho STALKER had me already forgetting about HL 2. I wanna at least try DOOM 3s demo. But FarCry? I love this game. Everything so far blows minds.

I'm still waiting for Quake: The Fight For Justice personally
(mad props to whoever gets that!)

From the Commander Keen readme. You are Quake a force to be reckoned with... or something along those lines.

really close == 2005

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