Carmack at GDC - DOOM 3 "Close"

Computer and Video Games and HomeLAN Fed (thanks Frans) each have stories up based on John Carmack's address at the Game Developer's Conference, though their accounts of the proceedings don't actually jibe with each other. CVG reports that the id Software co-owner and technical director is indicating that their next game will be a Quake II remix using new graphics in order to shorten the development cycle. The report on HomeLAN Fed, however, says that Carmack described the Quake II remix idea as one that was considered and then dropped before moving along to DOOM 3 development, and that his discussions of their next project did indeed center around a shortened development cycle ("a couple of years"), but that is due to not needing to update the graphics engine as much as from Quake III Arena to DOOM 3. The story on HomeLAN Fed also describes other topics that the address touched upon, including ever-bigger game budgets, the future of gaming, and that DOOM 3 is "pretty close" to release, while CVG's quote is again different, saying "really close."
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Mar 25, 2004, 22:46
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Mar 25, 2004, 22:46
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As in that Romero's Quake where you hulk smash everything with the Hammer of Justice?

Erm, ya...wild guess.

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Mar 25, 2004, 22:33
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Re: No subject Mar 25, 2004, 22:33
Mar 25, 2004, 22:33
 
22: Neither Nerve or Gray Matter have dropped off the face of the earth?

I wouldn't take the Q2 remake as anything but a rumour, or misunderstanding for now, and yet people are still bashing it already.

I'm still waiting for Quake: The Fight For Justice personally
(mad props to whoever gets that!)

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Mar 25, 2004, 22:32
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Mar 25, 2004, 22:32
 
Isn't Quake 4 going to be like Quake 2? I must admit i continue to forget that Q4 is probably well into development at Raven and am hoping that it is somewhat Q2ish...

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Mar 25, 2004, 22:10
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Mar 25, 2004, 22:10
 
Wasn't it Trinity? Or was Trinity back in like, '98?



Quake 2 rocked, but it's the graphics that made it. The pixels and particles in the rocket's exhaust, or the black flies. Holy crap, that game was beautiful, managing to be a form of art in a way games now usually can't, opting for photo-realism instead.

I loved sitting in levels watching a rocket whizz by with headphones on. Stereo like that for pretty much the first time...

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Mar 25, 2004, 21:54
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Mar 25, 2004, 21:54
 
Correct me if i'm wrong, but I thought it was Paul Steed who got fired over deciding to go with Doom 3 instead of Quest.
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Mar 25, 2004, 21:40
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Mar 25, 2004, 21:40
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UGH

When the hell will CaVG redo the site...god, it is awful to look at!

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Mar 25, 2004, 21:37
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Mar 25, 2004, 21:37
 
I'd rather hear it was delayed another year, thats more time people will wait on seriously upgrading, thusly increasinc the LCD just a bit more.
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Mar 25, 2004, 21:21
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Mar 25, 2004, 21:21
 
Edit: Then again, a new quake 2 would probably be much more entertaining than that cheesy "Quest" rpg.
Cheesy? How can you make such a judgement on a game that was literally nothing more than a very basic concept and a name? I'm not talking about that stupid N64 game I'm talking about the game that they were going to make instead of Doom3 that Tom Hall got fired over, and then some other company (Nerve or Gray Matter I think) was going to pick up but then it got dropped off the face of the earth.

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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 21:10
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Re: Close like ... Mar 25, 2004, 21:10
Mar 25, 2004, 21:10
 
Well if you can't get it in a retail store; sure.

If it's the same product and same price, there is zero point in pre ordering vs retail.

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A Far Cry for DOOM3...
Mar 25, 2004, 21:07
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A Far Cry for DOOM3... Mar 25, 2004, 21:07
Mar 25, 2004, 21:07
 
The more and more you play Farcry the more you forget about Half-Life 2 and Doom 3.. FarCry is amazing, you get the same feeling you felt when you played Half-Life back in the day how awesome it is, but now with 10 times more fun The bar has been raised, I just wonder if DOOM 3 or even Half-Life 2 can perfect anymore? I'm in Love with Farcry- it feels like Doom and Half-Life mixed together in a great package.

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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 20:56
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Mar 25, 2004, 20:56
 
I never pre order. It just seems like you're trusting the mail carrier a little too much. There is no tracking

I pre-ordered UT2004 Special Edition from EBGames.com. Free shipping via UPS ground, with a tracking number. Yeah, it took a whole amount of two extra days to arrive compared to folks buying from the store, but at least I was guaranteed a DVD SE version

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Mar 25, 2004, 20:54
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Mar 25, 2004, 20:54
 
#15 i agree. a q2 sequel should be the n1 priority, with a remake of q2 or even q1 being icing on the cake, nothing more.

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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 20:53
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Mar 25, 2004, 20:53
 
damn, "compatability mode" for a "setup.exe"...so close and I didn't thought about it a sec ... thx, will try that next time!

oh, and #15 I didn't say that Q4 is a remake of Q2 - I said it's a QII-2 which meant "sequel to Q2" as like Final Fantasy X-2, because of the different non-related parts before (Q1) and in between (Q3)... (just to clear that up ;P)

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Re: Make Quest you bastards!
Mar 25, 2004, 20:43
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Re: Make Quest you bastards! Mar 25, 2004, 20:43
Mar 25, 2004, 20:43
 
"pretty close"...... yaaaawn.... wake me up when there is real news. The more time that passes, the less I give a shit about this game.

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Re: Make Quest you bastards!
Mar 25, 2004, 20:38
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Re: Make Quest you bastards! Mar 25, 2004, 20:38
Mar 25, 2004, 20:38
 
Nope. Quake 4 is not a remake. It is a sequel to Quake 2. The Quake 2 remake would still make a good thing to add as an extra goody on the Quake 4 disc.

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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 20:38
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Re: Close like ... Mar 25, 2004, 20:38
Mar 25, 2004, 20:38
 
XP has a "compatability mode" that tricks proggies into theinking its win95. Next time you have this problem, right click on the installer exe, choose Properties and Compatibility tab and then choose win95. Worked like a charm for me.
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Mar 25, 2004, 20:36
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Mar 25, 2004, 20:36
 
Making a Quake 2 remix is a pretty crappy decision. There are quite a few souped up Quake 2 engines already out there, such Quake 2 evolved and Quake 2 Max. And how many times can you play quake 2 before it becomes boring?

Edit: Then again, a new quake 2 would probably be much more entertaining than that cheesy "Quest" rpg.
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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 20:31
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Re: Close like ... Mar 25, 2004, 20:31
Mar 25, 2004, 20:31
 
well, Quake 4 is a Quake2-2, so a "real" Quake2 remake is not necessary to do...
(funny theme, as I installed Q2 some days ago, after playing the demo once again... stupid missionpack said somethng that it needs Win95 and refused to install per setup...had to copy it over manually and make links for it )
and Nerve is still working on their secret "based-on-an-id-property" project, which could be the "Quest"...

oh, and "close" would mean early June, I guess... woohoo

PS: ...the leaked Quake4 concept artworks looked simply stunning...
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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 20:27
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Re: Close like ... Mar 25, 2004, 20:27
Mar 25, 2004, 20:27
 
I never pre order. It just seems like you're trusting the mail carrier a little too much. There is no tracking (with USPS unless you pay extra) and you just have to wait.

With retail shops, give them a buzz. "Hey, you guy got in Far Cry yet? TOmorrow? OK thanks."

(the next day)
"You guys have it in yet? Ok, great, be right there"

instead of just waiting.. and waiting..

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Re: Close like ...
Mar 25, 2004, 20:14
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Re: Close like ... Mar 25, 2004, 20:14
Mar 25, 2004, 20:14
 
... Close like September 30th close?

Yup, Sep 30 2005.


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