OMG those words are written people - WRITTEN!!! We must believe this man/god because the words are on the god damn page

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You are all wrong.

Here my might, one true voice.

I am god, your only god, bow down before me and praise the almighty power I am.

Ohh, and bonus points to the first person who brings me a banana sandwich made properly.


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Depends on the Church, a few religions look upon suicide as totally heroic, and a guarantee of heaven. But, "This is all a bunch of arbitrary man-made artifice anyway." pretty much sums it up.
Nonickforme: There are a great many pleasures on this earth beyond that which possessions and wealth can help you attain. Atheists have realized this all over the world. Many atheists see themselves as not part of the "moral" sect of society (encompassing any religion, from their point of view), but part of humanity, and possessions be damned, will spend their lives trying to make everyone else's better. That's right: There are those who walk amongst us who'd elevate humanity, and the accomplishment of that is their goal - non religious, non material.

Whoever the clownshoes was that says religion doesn't shove their fucking views into my face all day: Gay marriage ammendment anyone? Heard your national anthem (if you are from the US or Canada)? Palestinian terrorist kills 12 Jews Heroic Israeli military helicopter pilot kills 19 Palestinians, one of which was a possible terrorist! Abortion doctor shot dead in front of his clinic, SAVED ANOTHER RAPISTS BABY! YES YES YES YES YES!! A few human cells organized in such a fashion that given ideal conditions, and a healthy mother may one day be a cognisant human HAVE A SOUL!!! No partial birth abortions! Merry Christmas!! Happy Easter!!! etc. etc. etc.

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Will there be animals in Heaven?

I have a group of coworkers who spent HOURS one day debating this...the pro-christian guy claimed that animals don't have a soul, and only souls can get into heaven.

I just looked at him and rolled my eyes. Must have been a slow day in their dept...

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I'll own you all with my Vietnamese Type 56/RPG-7 kit. That thing is quite deadly.

Yes the Type56 rules. And its nice that RPGs actually have SPLASH damage unlike the zooks in BF1942.

Bart: Wouldn't you get used to Hell, like in a hot-tub? Will there be pirates in Hell? Will an amputated leg be reattached in Heaven? Will there be animals in Heaven? What about cavemen? Robots with a human brain? What if a ventriloquist goes to Heaven, will his dummy go too?

Teacher: I don't know! All these questions! Is a little blind faith too much to ask?



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But suicide is a sin,

Yes, I was merely trying to prove a point, that whether you believe in gods or not, it doesnt mean you are a follower of the most perverted logic you can come up with.

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Then religious people should all kill themselves as soon as possible(before committing a sin), because when they die, they go to heaven?

But suicide is a sin, so that wouldn't work. I think the reasoning behind this is pretty obvious. The religious leaders needed people to be loyal to (and fearful of) the church; they can't just go kill themselves and get to heaven. That would be too easy.

This is all a bunch of arbitrary man-made artifice anyway.

~Steve

Athiests should only care about physical wealth because when you die, thats it. Thats only 'evil' if you'll gain the wealth no matter what the concequences.

Then religious people should all kill themselves as soon as possible(before committing a sin), because when they die, they go to heaven?

Being an atheist isnt all about denying everything, its about not automaticly believing those who say the world is ruled by god(s).

In effect, most religions people does the excact same thing, by denying every other possible gods. I just believe in one god less.


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Athiests should only care about physical wealth because when you die, thats it. Thats only 'evil' if you'll gain the wealth no matter what the concequences.

That statement is completely devoid of logic.

~Steve

I'll own you all with my Vietnamese Type 56/RPG-7 kit. That thing is quite deadly.

~Steve

I admit I do tend to try and get Halsy in a religious(non) fervor, it always makes me laugh.

That's ok, I rather enjoy putting you in your place.


"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit."
- W. Somerset Maugham

Happens to me occasionally complicity. I think its the unavoidable server crash, as this never happens on SP...

God the sp campagigne is long as shit, too bad i'm almost mind dead from having to play bombing run. I hate bombing run more than I hate when my anus leaks fire after eating spicy food.

Interestingly enough the more I play the game the more graphical options I can crank up without getting extreme slowdown.


Athiests should only care about physical wealth because when you die, thats it. Thats only 'evil' if you'll gain the wealth no matter what the concequences.

Most of the time i'm actually not trying to be a dick/troll believe it or not. If I am being a dick/troll its fairly obvious if you have any reasonable amount of reading comprehension. I admit I do tend to try and get Halsy in a religious(non) fervor, it always makes me laugh. =)

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If there is a hell, I'll see you there."

eyes... burning... yet, can't stop playing ONS.

Am I the only one who sometimes joins a server, and the map loading screen comes up and sits and sits and sits and never actually gets into the game? I have to alt-tab out and kill the UT2k4 task. This seems to happen after I disconnect from a server and join another one.

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I have to do this or fred will keep bothering me about it and I'm in the middle of trying to do an assignment so I don't need that. He wants someone to talk to or play Battlefield Vietnam with. His ICQ number is 281-006-001 . Enjoy.

While I'm at it, if anyone wants to play me at BFV my UIN is in my user info and I can play after Tuesday. :\ Three assignments due when BF:V is released... damn school. I'm kinda glad the place I preordered from is dicking me around with shipment. It still hasn't shipped yet and Friday is nearing so I probably won't get it until next week. One less weekend distraction. :\


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As for science versus religion, I'm issuing a restraining order. Religion must stay 500 feet away from science at all times. -Simpsons

And people have the nerve to call me unmotivated.

No, just sometimes you're a complete dick. I do have to hand it to you on these types of debate, at least you get off the troll now and then.

Maybe I don't get out enough or something but I have never, ever not once seen that happen. I'm not saying it doesn't because I'm sure it does, but it's never happened to anyone I know and most of the people I know are non-Christians.

I have a hard time believing that. You haven't heard the people trying to condemn gay marriage? The people with signs that say "All fags go to hell?" The people who don't want evolution to be taught to children? The people who want prayer in public schools? The people trying to "protect the children" from sinful radio/TV/videogames? These are people shoving their (absurd, obsolete, arbitrary) beliefs down our throats. Unfortunately there are a lot of them.

Check this out for a particularly awful example:

http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=1718183&nav=1ugFLb9D

~Steve

After careful thought, I've decided it needs less of that crawling-around-in-the-bushes mullarkey, and lots more big tanks.
So the problem is that it's not BF 1942?

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I think when people see the screenshots, they see the more detailed environment, and I think they want the same gameplay as 1942 but with newer weapons technology.

You can go for historical accuracy, and that is fine, but EA's release of Secret Weapons showed that it wasn't necessary to have to have a great game.

I would have loved a flamethrower in this game, and I'm sure that most people would have wanted planes on all levels OR the ability to call in airstrikes that were performed by AI on maps that don't contain planes would be great as that was a cool feature in RTCW and ET gameplay.

For the more enlightened of you check out the http://ffrf.org (Freedom From Religion Foundation).

The history of Western civilization shows us that most social and moral progress has been brought about by persons free from religion.

In modern times the first to speak out for prison reform, for humane treatment of the mentally ill, for abolition of capital punishment, for women's right to vote, for death with dignity for the terminally ill, and for the right to choose contraception, sterilization and abortion have been freethinkers, just as they were the first to call for an end to slavery.

The Foundation works as an umbrella for those who are free from religion and are committed to the cherished principle of separation of state and church.




What is the Foundation's purpose?
The Freedom From Religion Foundation, Inc., is an educational group working for the separation of state and church. Its purposes, as stated in its bylaws, are to promote the constitutional principle of separation of state and church, and to educate the public on matters relating to nontheism.

Incorporated in 1978 in Wisconsin, the Foundation is a national membership association of freethinkers: atheists, agnostics and skeptics of any pedigree. The Foundation is a non-profit, tax-exempt organization under Internal Revenue Code 501(c)(3). All dues and contributions are deductible for income tax purposes.




Why is the Foundation concerned with state/church entanglement?
First Amendment violations are accelerating. The religious right is campaigning to raid the public till and advance religion at taxpayer expense, attacking our secular public schools, the rights of nonbelievers, and the Establishment Clause.

The Foundation recognizes that the United States was first among nations to adopt a secular Constitution. The founders who wrote the U.S. Constitution wanted citizens to be free to support the church of their choice, or no religion at all. Our Constitution was very purposefully written to be a godless document, whose only references to religion are exclusionary.

It is vital to buttress the Jeffersonian "wall of separation between church and state" which has served our nation so well.


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- W. Somerset Maugham