SWAT: Urban Justice Cancelled?

3D Gamers has a story up with word they've picked up from Vivendi that SWAT: Urban Justice has been cancelled. After noticing that all references to the oft-delayed next installment in the SWAT series had been removed from the company's servers, their inquiries returned the response that there is no chance that the game will be released. This was what Vivendi had to say about the future of SWAT:
We'll have news regarding the SWAT franchise this summer
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Re: Swat III
Mar 10, 2004, 20:34
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Re: Swat III Mar 10, 2004, 20:34
Mar 10, 2004, 20:34
 
SWAT3 was a fantastic game, but it seems that Sierra was always doing their best to destroy it. (which no sense from a business viewpoint)

I could never really get into Raven Shield; it needed a control/inventory scheme more like SWAT3. Especially the Team Orders menu. I loved that. (Also, it takes way too long to switch from a grenade back to a weapon in RS.)


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Re: oh?
Mar 10, 2004, 16:37
nin
 
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Re: oh? Mar 10, 2004, 16:37
Mar 10, 2004, 16:37
 nin
 
ohhh no! bitch slapped by DDI...I think I'll go kill myself now.

or maybe not




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Re: oh?
Mar 10, 2004, 16:20
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Re: oh? Mar 10, 2004, 16:20
Mar 10, 2004, 16:20
 
Looks like you are an illiterate retard as several people have pointed out their disappointment.

ohhh no! bitch slapped by DDI...I think I'll go kill myself now.

or maybe not

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Re: oh?
Mar 10, 2004, 15:12
DDI
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Re: oh? Mar 10, 2004, 15:12
Mar 10, 2004, 15:12
DDI
 
and the sound of crickets is deafening....

Looks like you are an illiterate retard as several people have pointed out their disappointment.

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Bah
Mar 10, 2004, 15:03
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Bah Mar 10, 2004, 15:03
Mar 10, 2004, 15:03
 
I was looking forward to this game more than Half-life 2. Shizzletits.

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oh?
Mar 10, 2004, 13:50
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oh? Mar 10, 2004, 13:50
Mar 10, 2004, 13:50
 
....SWAT: Urban Justice has been cancelled


and the sound of crickets is deafening....


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"Perhaps the answer to the perennial problem of delinquent teenagers dropping bricks from motorway and railway bridges is to sue the creators of Tetris."- Unknown Author
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"Both the “left” and the “right” pretend they have the answer, but they are mere flippers on the same thalidomide baby, and the truth is that neither side has a clue."

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Re: No Swat 4
Mar 10, 2004, 13:36
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Re: No Swat 4 Mar 10, 2004, 13:36
Mar 10, 2004, 13:36
 

I dunno, I'm still convinced that the best chance a SWAT game has at the moment is as a mod. Sure, it'd be tough to get the bullet physics right, but by no means impossible.

It sounded like UJ would have been disappointing anyways (more action-y, less police trainer).

If I was a young whipper-snapper wanting to break into the game dev scene, I'd be all over the vacuum created by the loss of this franchise.

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No subject
Mar 10, 2004, 13:15
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No subject Mar 10, 2004, 13:15
Mar 10, 2004, 13:15
 
I loved SWAT3, still have my CD somewhere. From what I saw of the early screen shots and movies of SWAT:UJ I wasn't impressed.

We do need a new SWAT3ish game, with more up to date graphics.

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Re: No Swat 4
Mar 10, 2004, 12:23
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Re: No Swat 4 Mar 10, 2004, 12:23
Mar 10, 2004, 12:23
 
I thought the game sounded kind of lousy... I'd have much preferred a sequel to SWAT 3 itself. Ah, what a kick-ass game.

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No Swat 4
Mar 10, 2004, 11:53
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No Swat 4 Mar 10, 2004, 11:53
Mar 10, 2004, 11:53
 
I was really looking forward to the next swat game...One would have thought that now would be a good time to release an updated version, as I think there is still room for this franchise, it's quite different from Raven Shield (and other squad based fps's). Looks like developer/publisher differences have killed it though. Is it just me....or is the xbox the kiss of death for established pc franchises, *cough* deus exbox *cough*.
Old enough to know better, young enough not to care.
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Swat III
Mar 10, 2004, 11:24
Eon
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Swat III Mar 10, 2004, 11:24
Mar 10, 2004, 11:24
Eon
 
Was awesome multiplayer Co-Op.

In addition I loved the more cerebral feel of having to maneuver the perps into surrendering. Much more satisfying when you pulled off a "no fatality" run on the earlier levels.

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Re: No subject
Mar 10, 2004, 11:23
Jim
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Re: No subject Mar 10, 2004, 11:23
Mar 10, 2004, 11:23
Jim
 
I've documented a lot of the game's rise and fall over at my web site, 10-David (http://www.10-david.com/), but here's a brief history:

Nice to know 10-david is still around. I thought the site disappeared a while back due to lack of interest. I used to be quite a frequent visitor.

Jim
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Re: No subject
Mar 10, 2004, 11:22
Jim
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Re: No subject Mar 10, 2004, 11:22
Mar 10, 2004, 11:22
Jim
 
SWAT 3 was bad assed. Their bullet physics was finally replicated in Raven Shield even then its not as well implemented. A 5.56mm round in SWAT 3 would go through several walls in a house

Yeah, nothing like firing up the East Hollywood mission with 30 suspects, and using one of the P90s from the Chimera mod to take em all out from the front porch!

Jim
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Re: No subject
Mar 10, 2004, 10:37
DDI
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Re: No subject Mar 10, 2004, 10:37
Mar 10, 2004, 10:37
DDI
 
SWAT 3 was bad assed. Their bullet physics was finally replicated in Raven Shield even then its not as well implemented. A 5.56mm round in SWAT 3 would go through several walls in a house.

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No subject
Mar 10, 2004, 10:26
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No subject Mar 10, 2004, 10:26
Mar 10, 2004, 10:26
 
It's long been rumored that Urban Justice as a title was canned (including a UK print mag reporting as much in December - something which Vivendi later refuted), but this comment from Vivendi further indicates that there still will be a SWAT 4.

I've documented a lot of the game's rise and fall over at my web site, 10-David (http://www.10-david.com/), but here's a brief history:

2/2002 - SWAT 4/UJ announced
5/2002 - Shown at E3, but gets ignored by most major media outlets; shaky cam footage shows the game to be in very very very early stages
8/2002 - Last previews published, longtime lead producer Rog Fung announces departure
9/2002 - Rumors of a switch to the Unreal engine crop up
9/2002 - First delays from the original 10/2002 scheduled ship date; pushed into 2003
10/2002 to 1/2003 - Majority of core SWAT 4/UJ staff resigns or leaves company
5/2003 - I go to E3 and hound Sierra/Vivendi for answers; get some, but only leads to more questions
Rest of 2003 - Magazines/retailers/Sierra/Vivendi continue to push date of game back out and Sierra/Vivendi respond to my emails saying something is "coming soon..."
12/2003 - UK print mag says Vivendi told them SWAT UJ was "cancelled" and SWAT 4 was "on hold indefinitely" (name semantics)
2004 - *shrug*

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Re: Son of a...
Mar 10, 2004, 10:12
DDI
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Re: Son of a... Mar 10, 2004, 10:12
Mar 10, 2004, 10:12
DDI
 
YELLOW JUSTICE

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Re: Son of a...
Mar 10, 2004, 10:09
Jim
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Re: Son of a... Mar 10, 2004, 10:09
Mar 10, 2004, 10:09
Jim
 
Ya, I was excited about it too way back when.. but then I saw the Swat game for the xbox and figured the franchise was dead anyways...

My thoughts exactly



Maybe someone will now be inspired to make a nice swat mod for hl2/doom3/ut2004.

That wouldn't be the same. The best thing about SWAT3 (which I still play) is that it had its own engine. Sure it had it's limitations, but no other game of its day could have modelled the ballistics the same. Even Rainbow Six didn't even come close IMO- it felt too Q3-like.

Jim
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Re: Son of a...
Mar 10, 2004, 10:07
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Re: Son of a... Mar 10, 2004, 10:07
Mar 10, 2004, 10:07
 
Ya, I was excited about it too way back when.. but then I saw the Swat game for the xbox and figured the franchise was dead anyways...

Maybe someone will now be inspired to make a nice swat mod for hl2/doom3/ut2004.

edit: I actually fired up swat3 a couple months ago, and forgot how much graphics have changed... wow. I'm not sure if the textures were 8bit or 16bit, but boy the color palette was bad. Still a fun game though.


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Son of a...
Mar 10, 2004, 10:04
Jim
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Son of a... Mar 10, 2004, 10:04
Mar 10, 2004, 10:04
Jim
 
I was looking forward to this game (3 years ago). I had already assumed it was DOA since I hadn't heard anything new on it in well over a year- but since the news is delayed, this could [possibly] be a good sign...

Jim
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