Infinium vs. [H] Follow-up

GameDaily has a response from Kyle at [H]ardOCP to yesterday's threat of legal action from Infinium Labs LLC (story). Here's a portion of the statement on how they will stand behind the article:
Bennett stated, "I have extended HardOCP.com’s pledge to correct any and all possible inconsistencies or errors in our editorial entitled 'Behind the Infinium Phantom Console' personally to Timothy Roberts and Kevin Bachus of Infinium Labs and they have yet to inform HardOCP.com of any information we presented as being not correct."
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Vapourvare
Feb 21, 2004, 15:34
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Vapourvare Feb 21, 2004, 15:34
Feb 21, 2004, 15:34
 
A common scheme among vendors of perpetual motion machines, or "free energy" devices is to say a lot of technical sounding things really fast. And if it turns out one or more of the people attending the "demonstration" is at all educated in physics, that is, knows that this sort of thing is impossible, they dodge the awkward questions, and if that proves unsuccsessful, to have the person(s) thrown out. If challenged in a more official way, say a newspaper article, they either lay low, or threaten to sue(Rarely actually going to court, since they know they can't possibly win).

Edited for horrenduos spelling(Hope that's spelled correctly)

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Re: CES meeting
Feb 21, 2004, 03:36
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Re: CES meeting Feb 21, 2004, 03:36
Feb 21, 2004, 03:36
 
He has stated that they have given infinium multiple opportunities to state their case and correct any mistakes. Likey, infinium would rather state their case in a closed door meeting rather than putting their case into an email where the facts are clear. Without email *or tape* it's a he said she said situation.



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Re: No subject
Feb 21, 2004, 00:48
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Re: No subject Feb 21, 2004, 00:48
Feb 21, 2004, 00:48
 
HOLY SH1T!!!

You need to immediately cease all forms of brain function. That was the single dumbest post EVER!

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No subject
Feb 20, 2004, 23:27
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No subject Feb 20, 2004, 23:27
Feb 20, 2004, 23:27
 
I'm not a thong man, I don't quite find I enjoy looking at a vagina, panties are much better. The only possiable exception would be to minimize pantyline in skimpy dresses. But there are "invisiable" panties for that purpose as well. In fact the only thing a thong is good for is a obvious sign that the girl isn't on her period. But if you can walk though mud...

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No subject
Feb 20, 2004, 21:15
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No subject Feb 20, 2004, 21:15
Feb 20, 2004, 21:15
 
"LOL I think they slapped that logo onto EVERYTHING they could find! Like a THONG!? Come the foook on! Lamest company trying to make ends meat..ever."

Listen...if the thong is anything like the console...they'll say it exists, but when you go to look for it, it won't be there. And I personally am all for this Cept following the trend...the one supposedly wearing the thong would then steal all my money....but she was gonna do that anyway!

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Re: How they chose beta testers
Feb 20, 2004, 19:21
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Re: How they chose beta testers Feb 20, 2004, 19:21
Feb 20, 2004, 19:21
 
Beta started a few months back, or at least that's when they chose the testers. Pretty much stopped frequenting their boards once I found out how testers were chosen.

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Re: How they chose beta testers
Feb 20, 2004, 18:13
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Re: How they chose beta testers Feb 20, 2004, 18:13
Feb 20, 2004, 18:13
 
They had a beta test? when and where? Anyone ever hear of anyone getting in?

I doubt "development" of this platform has got far in any actual testing process, i think they're still at the create-a-brand-and-fleece-the-investors stage.

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How they chose beta testers
Feb 20, 2004, 17:40
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How they chose beta testers Feb 20, 2004, 17:40
Feb 20, 2004, 17:40
 
Rather funny that this came up recently. Having applied for their 1st beta I was shocked that the actual choices were made by what fanboi posted more to their message boards rather than previous hardware/software alpha/beta experience. That alone speaks volumes to me on whether it will be a quaility product...vaporware or not.

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who cares?
Feb 20, 2004, 17:25
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who cares? Feb 20, 2004, 17:25
Feb 20, 2004, 17:25
 
Drunkard Kyle throws more doody around and I'm supposed to care? My 98-yr old aunt is harder than that guy.

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Re: mofo.com
Feb 20, 2004, 16:16
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Re: mofo.com Feb 20, 2004, 16:16
Feb 20, 2004, 16:16
 
I was on the http://www.phantom.net website, thinking nice flashy design to attract 14 year old kids, and not multi-million dollar investers. Anyways, I happen to roll over the lower corner, and up pops "MoFo". I did a double take, and said to myself "Excuse me?" Click and it goes to a laywer PAGE! Do they realize that a mofo is a "motherfucker"? I guess not. So I went to Acronymfinder.com and searched for Mofo and got:

MoFo Morrison and Foerster LLP (law firm)
MOFO Mother Figure (polite form)

Now I ask myself now, has the word Mofo supposed to mean cheap cheesy lawyers with a bad name? Or is it actually "motherfucker"? Well a Goggle search cleared that up, and a lot of people use Mofo as the meaning of "motherfucker".

Now about the real story. As anyone ever won when suing a newspaper for a editorial? I don't think so, I think Kyle has as much right to post that article as Roberts does pocketing investers money [which it appears he's doing]
and running 5 or 6 compaines into the ground. I don't know if he was personally responsible but I'm just looking at the common denominator and it appears that Roberts is the common denominator.

http://www.gamespot.com/all/news/news_6086244.html

Take a look at the console and have a look at their booth, no fancy lights, no fancy anything it appears. Just some little hole in the corner. When a new console is unveiled usually there is some attempt at "wow-ing" the crowd. But not here.

The consoles specs sound basically just like a mini tower computer and nothing more, I really don't need another one of those, thanks. And is there a lot of demand for anoher console in the market these days?

Infinium Labs has a viable product already out there. http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=ilabs.101291

LOL I think they slapped that logo onto EVERYTHING they could find! Like a THONG!? Come the foook on! Lamest company trying to make ends meat..ever.


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Re: ???
Feb 20, 2004, 14:45
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Re: ??? Feb 20, 2004, 14:45
Feb 20, 2004, 14:45
 
Infinium Labs has a viable product already out there. http://www.cafeshops.com/cp/store.aspx?s=ilabs.101291

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Re: No subject
Feb 20, 2004, 14:22
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Re: No subject Feb 20, 2004, 14:22
Feb 20, 2004, 14:22
nin
 
Intel motherboard,and AMD processor.hmm and up too 300gb harddrive,add all that together and its alot more than $300us which is what i guess there saying this box will cost?another Hmmmm

They sell the hardware at a loss, and make it up in monthly subscriptions...

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Re: parts add up to more than $300
Feb 20, 2004, 14:13
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Re: parts add up to more than $300 Feb 20, 2004, 14:13
Feb 20, 2004, 14:13
 
Yeah, and that's without an actual video card, y'know, the business end for all these high-end games they're gonna have.

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Re: ???
Feb 20, 2004, 14:11
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Re: ??? Feb 20, 2004, 14:11
Feb 20, 2004, 14:11
 
I have to disagree with you there. The hard core are a fickel bunch. If Roberts pulled it off, came up with a top notch product with a few good titles to back it up, the hard core would fall in line.

"Fickle"? they're hyper-critical. So starting off with bad word-of-mouth it only goes downhill from there. Infinium would need to pull off the equivilent of walking-on-water if they continue acting in this manner.

Branding is extremely important early on in a products' cycle and so far The Phantom™ is only bringing up a negative image for gamers who are aware that it even exists (never mind the public at large who don't know about it yet)

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No subject
Feb 20, 2004, 14:07
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No subject Feb 20, 2004, 14:07
Feb 20, 2004, 14:07
 
They just released a new video,must say nice graphics on the sales pitch.Well put together video.One thing i dont understand tho about Phantom,says Intel motherboard,and AMD processor.hmm and up too 300gb harddrive,add all that together and its alot more than $300us which is what i guess there saying this box will cost?another Hmmmm

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Re: mofo.com
Feb 20, 2004, 13:55
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Re: mofo.com Feb 20, 2004, 13:55
Feb 20, 2004, 13:55
 
Kevin Bachus is no reason to feel the Phantom is viable or even anything other than vaporware.


Remember when top 3dfx brass went over to the Bitboys to help bring Glaze3D to life?

So much for that.



And yes, mofo.com is amazing.

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Infinium Website down?
Feb 20, 2004, 13:53
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Infinium Website down? Feb 20, 2004, 13:53
Feb 20, 2004, 13:53
 
If the company isn't a ghost town, why hass their website been down most of the morning? http://www.infiniumlabs.com/

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Re: mofo.com
Feb 20, 2004, 13:47
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Re: mofo.com Feb 20, 2004, 13:47
Feb 20, 2004, 13:47
 
I find refreshing to see that a Lawyer Firm can be up front and honest about thier true nature with the naming of thier Web Site.

Morrison & Foerster LLP http://www.mofo.com/


That had me laughing so hard Gatorade squirted out of my nose.

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Re: ???
Feb 20, 2004, 13:44
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Re: ??? Feb 20, 2004, 13:44
Feb 20, 2004, 13:44
nin
 
The all critically important early adopters of new gaming tech are almost always from the hardcore gaming community and without them on-board publishers of any AAA games of note will avoid the system like the plague.

The early adopters also are supposed to sing the praises of the hardware, hopefully influencing more people to buy it.

I agree, they've f$%&*ed up big time. And I'm sure, when it fails miserably, they'll blame the same people they're blaming now.

Dammit! I want to work at a company that has no product, no liability, and people throwing money at them. Where DO I sign up for the gravy train?

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Re: ???
Feb 20, 2004, 13:41
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Re: ??? Feb 20, 2004, 13:41
Feb 20, 2004, 13:41
 
The all critically important early adopters of new gaming tech are almost always from the hardcore gaming community and without them on-board publishers of any AAA games of note will avoid the system like the plague.

I have to disagree with you there. The hard core are a fickel bunch. If Roberts pulled it off, came up with a top notch product with a few good titles to back it up, the hard core would fall in line.

A lot of folks who publish on this board have been hyper-critical of the folks at Valve but they'll still buy Half-Life 2 the day it comes out, if they haven't secretly pre-ordered it all ready.

The internet has made it very cheap to take the most extreme stands possible on any issue but it's all talk. The average poster is very different in reality from the persona they attempt to project.

Take me for instance. Oh sure I seem like a great guy but in actuality, I'm a real asshole

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