Out of the Blue

I'm really starting to consider whether there are alternatives to dropping MrsBlue off at the train station each morning. Today I had another two (two!) near misses in covering the mile-or-so between the BlueTower and the train station, including a tire screecher that I still cannot believe did not involve contact. The cause, of course, is all the numb nut Sunday drivers heading to the train station to commute, so the quandary here is whether reducing the risk of a fender-bender in our own personal car is a justifucation for potentially increasing her risk of having an incident because she would then be traveling with a (numb nut) cab driver. Damn, it's the Kobyashi Maru... time to recode the simulator.

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Re: HSF question...
Jan 30, 2004, 11:21
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Re: HSF question... Jan 30, 2004, 11:21
Jan 30, 2004, 11:21
 
I am getting ready to put together my first computer from scratch, and while I feel comfortable with all of my component choices and the assembly...I am rather nervous about the heatsink/fan installation on my AMD (Barton core). Does anybody have any tips or recommendations on HSF that are easier to attach than others?

I just put together an AMD64 3000+ with an Asus K8V-deluxe.

I used a Zalman heatsink:

http://www.zalman.co.kr/english/product/cnps7000a-alcu.htm

It works on socket 478, 462 and 754. I don't know what socket your Barton uses so....

I'm happy with the fan, it is really quiet. Other than having to remove the Asus supplied backplate and installing the Zalman plate it was easy. The heatsink screwed into two brass posts that in turn screwed into the backplate. It didn't seem possible to overtighten it.

My CPU temperatures are not really were I would like them to be but I think it has more to do with my cable placement and the fact that the case is stuffed into an armoir that has no real venting around the case. I have to keep the doors closed during the day to keep the kids out.

In the morning when I leave for work the CPU is around 40C and the case is 39C. When the kids go to bed and I open the doors the temp is 50C/49C. In about ten minutes it drops back to 40/39.

Last night I played BF1942 for about an hour and my CPU temp was 51C. Two minutes after quitting it was back to 41C.

One word of caution, make sure that whatever heatsink you choose fits with respect to your motherboard layout. Nothing worse than finding out a capacitor or board will be in the way of your spiffy new heatsink.

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Re: Bowflex story
Jan 30, 2004, 11:20
Enahs
 
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Re: Bowflex story Jan 30, 2004, 11:20
Jan 30, 2004, 11:20
 Enahs
 
'some' actually refers to almost half a million bowflex machines. Yikes.

Yeah, it makes me happy that I went with the “cheap” Weider Crossbow version (http://www.thecrossbow.com/crossbow/index.html ). Not only does it cost a thousand+ less for a BowFlex that has the same features, it is made out of a ridiculous amount of wasted steal for extra strength! When I first was putting it together, I was like….why in the hell does it need to have so much metal, this shit is heavy!

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Alternatives to the "commute"...
Jan 30, 2004, 11:18
Jim
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Alternatives to the "commute"... Jan 30, 2004, 11:18
Jan 30, 2004, 11:18
Jim
 
Well, you could do one of the following:

1. petition the port/transit authority to open a new train station closer to your house, or have the existing one moved.

2. Move closer to the existing train station.

3. Petition the town to take away the licenses of all "numb nut" drivers (like the South Park episode where they took away the licenses of the elderly).

4. Purchase a Segway (after evaluating whether the risk of getting hit in a Segway is better than the risk of getting hit in a car).

5. Tele-commute.

6. Adjust working hours from 9-to-5 to 7-3, 11-7, etc.

etc etc

Jim
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Re: HSF question...
Jan 30, 2004, 11:16
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Re: HSF question... Jan 30, 2004, 11:16
Jan 30, 2004, 11:16
 
If your worried about not having the HSF line up correctly you may want to install the CPU / HSF BEFORE you mount your motherboard to the case. You'll be able to visually inspect the point of contact which is something you can't do without a mechanics mirror after the mobo is installed (unless your head is small enough to fit in the case that is ).

You'll see a little tab on the heat sink clamp where you can fit in a screwdriver to make installing the HSF easier. hooking the clamp to the CPU slot edge shouldn't require anything more than a firm push down and slight tilting foward of the screwdriver to get it to hook on. Take your time.

Oh, and make sure you are grounded. You can destroy a chip just by building up static electricity and then touching the CPU. I know because it happened to me.

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Bowflex story
Jan 30, 2004, 11:14
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Bowflex story Jan 30, 2004, 11:14
Jan 30, 2004, 11:14
 
Ah, gotta love the media... headline "Some Bowflex machines recalled"... now, when I think some, I think maybe one or two thousand, tops... but when you read the article, 'some' actually refers to almost half a million bowflex machines. Yikes.


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Re: So...incredibly...
Jan 30, 2004, 11:14
Jim
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Re: So...incredibly... Jan 30, 2004, 11:14
Jan 30, 2004, 11:14
Jim
 
...stupid:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/30/striking.evolution.ap/index.html

Rolling my eyes at that state story

Yeah I just saw that. I couldn't even get myself to read the entire article. These are the same idiots who wanted to hang Galileo in the 1600s for identifying gravity and proving the Copernican theory. What's next, 1930's-style book-burning rallies where science books get tossed in the fire?

As if science education in this country wasn't screwed enough- they gotta come up with this stuff. True, evolution is a "theory", but as SCIENCE tells us, we should not judge it to be more or less truthful than Creation or any other "theory" until undisputable proof is given either way.

Jim
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Train station commute
Jan 30, 2004, 11:10
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Train station commute Jan 30, 2004, 11:10
Jan 30, 2004, 11:10
 
Well Blue, if you want my advice (and who wouldn't!), I'd say that it would be best for MrsBlue to cab it rather than you driving her every morning. That way, if there did happen to be an accident, at least your vehicle wouldn't be involved.

If the stereotype of NY cabbies is true, they're pretty good (albeit crazy) drivers. It would actually be interesting to see the statistics on accident rates involving cab drivers vs. non-cab drivers. Hmmm...

Another alternative: if she's feeling particularly energetic and dresses properly, MrsBlue could walk to the train station if it's only a mile. Exercise does a body good!


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Re: HSF question...
Jan 30, 2004, 10:57
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Re: HSF question... Jan 30, 2004, 10:57
Jan 30, 2004, 10:57
 
Depending on your brand of heatsink, there's some great sites that go over this in detail, with pics. Especially if you have one of those heatsinks with the narrow base and you need to put the little riser-dot dealies on the 'sink to keep from breaking the core. Check out thermalright.com for some pretty good illustrations ...

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Re: HSF question...
Jan 30, 2004, 10:53
nin
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Re: HSF question... Jan 30, 2004, 10:53
Jan 30, 2004, 10:53
nin
 
I am rather nervous about the heatsink/fan installation on my AMD (Barton core).

Think Ray built one of those, Bronco maybe, too...

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HSF question...
Jan 30, 2004, 10:51
7.
HSF question... Jan 30, 2004, 10:51
Jan 30, 2004, 10:51
 
Looking for some advice here-


I am getting ready to put together my first computer from scratch, and while I feel comfortable with all of my component choices and the assembly...I am rather nervous about the heatsink/fan installation on my AMD (Barton core). Does anybody have any tips or recommendations on HSF that are easier to attach than others? Or do you have any tips on just the general placing of the heatsink? I would hate to crush the core on my new computer despite this being my first go at this.

Thanks-

All4naught

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Re: Morning trip
Jan 30, 2004, 10:40
Enahs
 
5.
Re: Morning trip Jan 30, 2004, 10:40
Jan 30, 2004, 10:40
 Enahs
 
Ohh, I got an idea!
Remember the first Mars rover in 96? It used a airbag ball around it’s self, and just crashed into the planet at free-fall speed (well, sorta).
Get one of them, and build a catapult!



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Re: No subject
Jan 30, 2004, 10:29
nin
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Re: No subject Jan 30, 2004, 10:29
Jan 30, 2004, 10:29
nin
 
Ray, where ya been?

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Re: No subject
Jan 30, 2004, 10:29
nin
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Re: No subject Jan 30, 2004, 10:29
Jan 30, 2004, 10:29
nin
 
Blue, in times like this, I think it's important to close your eyes, and think of the following:

What would Tony Soprano do in this situation?"


The rest should be easy...and us regulars like you so much, we'll not only support your web page with money, we'll even raise bail money for ya!



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So...incredibly...
Jan 30, 2004, 10:27
2.
So...incredibly... Jan 30, 2004, 10:27
Jan 30, 2004, 10:27
 
...stupid:

http://www.cnn.com/2004/EDUCATION/01/30/striking.evolution.ap/index.html

Rolling my eyes at that state story,
Ray

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No subject
Jan 30, 2004, 10:21
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Jan 30, 2004, 10:21
 
Ouch, glad you didn't get hurt. NFS is fun on a computer, but that kind of thing is definitely not fun in RL.

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