FBI Half-Life 2 Raids

A weblog post mentioned in a Slashdot story apparently gives the account of a San Francisco native's encounter with the FBI as the fed's raided his home looking for evidence in connection with the theft of the Half-Life 2 source code (story). According to Slashdot (since the site has been, naturally enough, Slashdotted), the blog includes a scan of the FBI's search warrant. Thanks Captain Trips.
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Awesome.
Jan 19, 2004, 16:13
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Awesome. Jan 19, 2004, 16:13
Jan 19, 2004, 16:13
 
Bout time we see some action taking place against this kind of violation and theft.

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No subject
Jan 19, 2004, 16:17
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No subject Jan 19, 2004, 16:17
Jan 19, 2004, 16:17
 
if they catch anyone, I'll be REALLY surprised

it is the gov't after all

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HL2
Jan 19, 2004, 16:24
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HL2 Jan 19, 2004, 16:24
Jan 19, 2004, 16:24
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Free Kevin! Yes, I know he's free.

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Re: HL2
Jan 19, 2004, 16:26
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Re: HL2 Jan 19, 2004, 16:26
Jan 19, 2004, 16:26
 
Free Tacos!

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Re: Awesome.
Jan 19, 2004, 16:28
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Re: Awesome. Jan 19, 2004, 16:28
Jan 19, 2004, 16:28
 
If they've actually caught the party(s) responsible, they're in very deep, very smelly doodoo.

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Re: HL2
Jan 19, 2004, 16:29
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Re: HL2 Jan 19, 2004, 16:29
Jan 19, 2004, 16:29
 
When I was in high school, some friends of mine got simultaneously raided by the FBI. They were all under 18 and were monkeying around on NASA servers, or something like that. The judge did little more than slap them on the wrists (hey, it was the 80's) but they didn't get their stuff back for more than 18 months.

That said, I'm glad to see the FBI raiding somebody. If it wasn't for this moron, I could be playing Half Life 2 by now.

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Re: HL2
Jan 19, 2004, 16:31
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Re: HL2 Jan 19, 2004, 16:31
Jan 19, 2004, 16:31
 
no you wouldn't.. Valve was just looking for an excuse not to ship this game. Waiting for steam and better video cards is as much to blame as the code theft.
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double post
Jan 19, 2004, 16:32
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Jan 19, 2004, 16:32
 
N/T

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Re: Awesome.
Jan 19, 2004, 16:32
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Jan 19, 2004, 16:32
 
If they've actually caught the party(s) responsible, they're in very deep, very smelly doodoo.

revenge of the crowbar!

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pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 16:41
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Jan 19, 2004, 16:41
 
thousands of people have a copy of the leaked source code by now. one raid is meaningless.

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 16:49
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 16:49
Jan 19, 2004, 16:49
 
What the hell are you talking about? They know the code is out there, they're not trying to raid a guy so that he can't have the source code anymore, but to find evidence that leads to the original thief. It's not meaningless.

~Steve

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pass the modem on the left hand side
Jan 19, 2004, 17:00
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pass the modem on the left hand side Jan 19, 2004, 17:00
Jan 19, 2004, 17:00
 
the days of geeked out haxor kids running amok is coming to an end

Gov't wants to play now

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 17:04
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 17:04
Jan 19, 2004, 17:04
 
IF they ever find the guy that did it, AND can provide proof in a court of law that he did it, he'll get very little to zero jailtime out of it, since there is absolutely no precedent for any computer crime getting a heavy sentence.

Which, ofcourse, will point us nicely towards the new law the government has been wanting to set up in which a hacker could be put away for life if he messed with Really Important Shit (tm), and to which approximately 99% of all posters on this board shouted it was nazi'ist and woe would become us. It will be interesting to see to what new level hypocrisy can rise once everyone will start clambering for the Half Life 2 guy's head in relation to his theft...

But I digress..

Creston


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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 17:06
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Jan 19, 2004, 17:06
 
Amen JediLuke.

I hope they bust those asshole hackers. And when they find themselves taking it in the end from Bubba their new roommate (in the state pen) they can tell him how elite they really are.

And if they don't bust them on the HL2 theft they sure as hell will find something on those 9 machines....

Guess they aren't as elite as they thought after all.

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 17:10
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Jan 19, 2004, 17:10
 
Haha. They took his X-BOX. Now that's funny. HL2 was stolen on a modded X-BOX... As for all the kids defending him based on this blog, obviously the FBI had some reason to suspect him. I'd be curious to know exactly what it was.


Meaningless? Hardly. The government needs to let hackers know they can't get away with it...

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Lets all cry for the underdogs now
Jan 19, 2004, 17:12
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Lets all cry for the underdogs now Jan 19, 2004, 17:12
Jan 19, 2004, 17:12
 
some moron on the dudes blog wrote the following:

If it's anything to do with Valve I'd hate to think that they condone this....

WTF is Valve supposed to do? Does anyone care to put a dollar value on what the whole mess has probably cost them in lost man-hours (as in how much code has to be tossed, attorneys, vendor promotional contracts, etc). How about the stuff you can't put a price on like bad PR that will affect the company's value should they ever go for an IPO?

Another cliche from another poster on his Blog responded:

you lay down with the dogs, you wake up with fleas

He chose to associate himself (even indirectly) with the group in question, who's at fault? If the guy doesn't know the current political climate regarding piracy and illegal hacking activities then he's a complete idiot and deserves no sympathy. Law enforcement is DYING to make headlines for busts like this to show that somethings being done. The HL2 souce theft was a very high profile case that screwed over a decent company and about a million gamers. If I was this guy and is/was hiding anything I'd be staining my pants about now.


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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 17:18
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Jan 19, 2004, 17:18
 
It's amazing that our government is spending its money and agents to find out who stole a video game code ::: When he have yet to even catch Osama Bin Laden( man responsibe for the death of thousands of people and human suffering) or other foreign terriorists. Good to know the importand things come first

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 17:21
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 17:21
Jan 19, 2004, 17:21
 
Creston:

No precedent is mostly true, though Kevin Mitnick might beg to differ, even if his circumstances were drastically different.

Trust me, if they catch whoever did this Valve's lawyers will make certain a precedent is set. This is very, very high profile, getting picked up on by every newspaper in the country. If they find someone to pin evidence to he'll get some very, very serious punishment. Odds are he'll end up bankrupt with at least a year of jailtime. Of course, 5 years later when he's allowed back on a computer he'll be making six figures in the digital security industry.

I'm all for massive jailtime for hacking. Cost someone money and you should pay. It's stealing, plain and simple, and one of the most costly, damaging ways to do it.

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I thought that...
Jan 19, 2004, 17:22
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I thought that... Jan 19, 2004, 17:22
Jan 19, 2004, 17:22
 
reprinting/scanning warrants was a no-no. Mayhaps I am wrong.

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 17:22
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 17:22
Jan 19, 2004, 17:22
 
Yuzzem, ok, yeah, every single government employee should drop his current job and resume the search for Osama.


Hey, when a building is burning across town the librarians shouldn't be worrying about overdue books, they should be picking up fire hoses, I mean, they're government employees!

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