FBI Half-Life 2 Raids

A weblog post mentioned in a Slashdot story apparently gives the account of a San Francisco native's encounter with the FBI as the fed's raided his home looking for evidence in connection with the theft of the Half-Life 2 source code (story). According to Slashdot (since the site has been, naturally enough, Slashdotted), the blog includes a scan of the FBI's search warrant. Thanks Captain Trips.
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Jan 19, 2004, 22:30
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Jan 19, 2004, 22:30
 
To anyone saying hackers like this end up with a 6 figure sallary developing some computer security software are wrong. It's the ones who don't get caught that do that.

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 22:29
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 22:29
Jan 19, 2004, 22:29
 
It's amazing that our government is spending its money and agents to find out who stole a video game code ::: When he have yet to even catch Osama Bin Laden( man responsibe for the death of thousands of people and human suffering) or other foreign terriorists. Good to know the importand things come first
Good idea! Let's completely halt our entire system of justice and let crime run rampant until we catch Osama Bin Laden!!! Idiot.

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Jan 19, 2004, 21:53
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Jan 19, 2004, 21:53
 
The corporations generate jobs, the people who take the jobs pay the taxes. No corporations, no income tax. Tax the corporation too heavily and they move somewhere else. You want to go back to some kind of barter system, swapping chickens for sweaters then go join a commune, hippy.

That is such a bullshit argument. Corporations used to be pay 50% tax and they still employed people. Guess what. Large corps pay virtually no tax these days and they're deserting the middle-class like rats leaving a sinking ship anyway. Your sort of nonsensical point of view results in nothing more than an overall depressed wage and declining standard or living. At the current rate of decline you won't be able to distinguish the U.S. from Mexico inside of 20 years. The saddest part is people like you bend over and take it, which makes it harder for everyone else because you think everyone else should bend over and take it to.

From Steve Brouwer's book, Robbing Us Blind

"The share of the national income that goes to the bottom 90% of the American people shrank from 67% of the total in the late 1970s to about 52% twenty years later. Almost all of the missing income was redistributed to the very richest Americans, the top 1%. Their take of the loot-already a robust 9.3% in 1979-had more than doubled to 20.8% by 2000. And that's before George Jr.'s tax cuts... "


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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 21:37
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 21:37
Jan 19, 2004, 21:37
 
If you ever really watched TAXI DRIVER you would of realized you just complimented me. He was made out to be a hero. Kudos on the reference though.

Sigh... what are you talking about? Do you seriously doubt that I've seen the movie? I just named the lead character to make everyone think I've seen it? And where did I say I was trying to insult you? I wasn't - I'm about to, but I'll hold back.

~Steve

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Jan 19, 2004, 21:28
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Jan 19, 2004, 21:28
 
#41
Your post(s) are still there, you should probably confirm that it was deleted before you start making assumptions

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 20:58
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 20:58
Jan 19, 2004, 20:58
 
To me it dosen't matter if they stole the HL2 source code, or launch codes for some ICBM's.

If you steal ANY kind of data from someone elses computer should be raided, and trialed and punished.

/shrug

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 20:12
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 20:12
Jan 19, 2004, 20:12
 
Ok Travis Bickle, just don't shoot anybody. )

If you ever really watched TAXI DRIVER you would of realized you just complimented me. He was made out to be a hero. Kudos on the reference though.

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Jan 19, 2004, 19:56
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Re: No subject Jan 19, 2004, 19:56
Jan 19, 2004, 19:56
 
The corporations generate jobs, the people who take the jobs pay the taxes. No corporations, no income tax. Tax the corporation too heavily and they move somewhere else. You want to go back to some kind of barter system, swapping chickens for sweaters then go join a commune, hippy.

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myg0t
Jan 19, 2004, 19:56
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myg0t Jan 19, 2004, 19:56
Jan 19, 2004, 19:56
 
Was this guy the leader of the myg0t clan or what?

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Jan 19, 2004, 19:49
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Jan 19, 2004, 19:49
 
Valve will be equally sarcastic upon learning of their vastly more numerable tax dollars being spent...

Haha. Corporations that pay taxes. That's a funny thought. Maybe it's different in the states, but here in Canada the corporations get so many tax breaks and loopholes and grants and credits that even a cheap accountant will have the government owing your company money.

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 19:42
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 19:42
Jan 19, 2004, 19:42
 
When I buy a game, or program, I feel glad that I am supporting a industry. I pity the bottow-dwelling, scum-sucking, warez community. They are a cancer which most righteously needs to be exterminated like the cockroaches they are.

Ok Travis Bickle, just don't shoot anybody.

~Steve

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 19:30
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 19:30
Jan 19, 2004, 19:30
 
I used to work in retail computer sales. I remember when the white trash came in and bragged how they had so much software, stolen of course, from warez groups and such.

One day, I made the connection that these idiots were basically driving the price up of software prices. Then, I also realized that real people work long and shitty hours developing software for YEARS in hopes to sell it for a profit. Then I think of this cigarette smelling white trash idiots braggin about all the warez they have.

I dont think its very cool anymore. When I reached above the age 13 I developed a conscience. Some of you underdevloped folk probably dont know what I'm talking about, and never will. Some may, at one point. When I realized all the hard work and effort that went into software, I reazlied how screwed up and lame it is to steal it.

When I buy a game, or program, I feel glad that I am supporting a industry. I pity the bottow-dwelling, scum-sucking, warez community. They are a cancer which most righteously needs to be exterminated like the cockroaches they are.

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Jan 19, 2004, 19:25
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Jan 19, 2004, 19:25
 
Hey, I'm glad I'm not the only one getting my posts deleted at shacknews.

...those guys need to lighten up.

The theft didn't delay the game directly. If they had a finnished game when the hack accured, why not just release it? The same people would have bought it then as they will now. If it's because of cheating and what not, just patch it up later. It's not really a new thing for patches to come after a game release...really!

In the mean time, people could have enjoyed the supposedly "BEST SINGELPLAYER GAME EVVAR!". But they didnt have a finnished game, and still dont have.

But hey, I'm just guessing really...but VALVE hasnt exactly shed some light on the subject.


Edit: whats with all the politics? Stay on topic people plz.


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GO GET 'EM!
Jan 19, 2004, 19:24
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GO GET 'EM! Jan 19, 2004, 19:24
Jan 19, 2004, 19:24
 
Well, its about time we heard about some progress on this.

Remember that there are hundreds, probably thousands of other cyber crimes being investigated, yet we dont hear about any of them because A) They arent associated with a high profile company of a very popular consumer product and B) Cyber crime is as "glamorous" as violent crime or sex-related crime so the news relegates it to the back page.

I do agree though that because this particular case has garnered such media play, it probably means that the FBI etal are highly motivated to find and make an example out of the guilty party to send a message to those that would seek to use their similar abilities to compromise the security of our country.

And Hump, dont forget that many of the offshore online casinos are run by the mob. You'd have to be crazy to try and fuck with that. You'd be beggin for a private cell with bubbah when those guys got to you.

Sling

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 19:17
indiv
 
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 19:17
Jan 19, 2004, 19:17
 indiv
 
and then he can get ANY network admin security job he wants

Well, except for those places that, say, don't want to hire people convicted of felonies.

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Jan 19, 2004, 19:15
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Jan 19, 2004, 19:15
 
I don't see what they are all worked up about. I snagged the beta torrent. 1.2 gigs of crap. 90 percent of the sounds are missing, the maps don't load, basically fool around with the training level. Yay. If I want to play with havok I'll load Max Payne 2.

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Jan 19, 2004, 18:54
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No subject Jan 19, 2004, 18:54
Jan 19, 2004, 18:54
 
I posted about this earlier at shacknews and got promptly censored when I made fun of the DOJ/FBI. Thank God for Blues

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 18:37
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 18:37
Jan 19, 2004, 18:37
 
Well, this is a high-profiled case, and they're dying to catch someone for it , but even if they do, AND somehow manages to prove guilt in court, he'll STILL be out in a year or whatever, and then he can get ANY network admin security job he wants, and probably get paid whatever he wants, hackers and virus makers who somehow get (in)famous always will.

So, what can you possibly lose by hacking..?


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This comment was edited on Jan 19, 18:39.
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Jan 19, 2004, 18:32
DG
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Jan 19, 2004, 18:32
DG
 
I'm sure if your home/car/whatever gets broken into that Valve will be equally sarcastic upon learning of their vastly more numerable tax dollars being spent accosting people that stole your stuff.

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Re: pointless raid
Jan 19, 2004, 18:31
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Re: pointless raid Jan 19, 2004, 18:31
Jan 19, 2004, 18:31
 
"It's amazing that our government is spending its money and agents to find out who stole a video game code ::: When he have yet to even catch Osama Bin Laden( man responsibe for the death of thousands of people and human suffering) or other foreign terriorists. Good to know the importand things come first"

Did you even think that thru when you wrote that? It's OK to let a person get away with theft??? I have a feeling if somebody were to break into your house you'd be on the phone to the police and you'd want them to pursue and punish. Im just glad Yuzzem doen't write the laws in this country. I'd be home 24/7 with a shotgun protecting my property.


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