Out of the Blue

Man has it gotten cold! I was definitely enjoying the unseasonable warmness that marked the end of 2003 around these parts. At approximately 0.0001% body fat, I am just not built for cold snaps. On that topic, Ice Age Ancestry May Keep Body Warmer and Healthier (registration required) is an article sent along today by linkmeister general Mike Martinez with a bit on the science behind keeping warm. This just makes me wonder how my ancestors made it through the ice age, as if they adapted to the cold, it's hard to see what of that they passed along to me. I am pretty good at building campfires (and in more civilized moments, working the thermostat).... maybe that's my genetic gift in this regard.

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No subject
Jan 9, 2004, 11:14
nin
 
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Jan 9, 2004, 11:14
 nin
 
Hey! I got an idea! Let's send Bush to Mars!

I mean, um, yeah, it's cold out...imagine how HtWD feels when she has to go tinkle...



http://www.petergabriel.com/
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Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 11:33
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Misc Jan 9, 2004, 11:33
Jan 9, 2004, 11:33
 
It is cold out there. I've literally felt a few witches tits in my time and they certainly weren't remotely this cold.

Bush Moon/Mars Announcement = Unnecessary-trillion dollar- tax-subsidized-distraction from the real issues-gift to himself. See what the IMF has to say about the U.S. economy right now? (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/01/07/politics/07CND-FUND.html) The last thing American needs right now is to be blowing money on frivolities. The employment numbers came out today. 1000 jobs created in December. 1000. Just a tad off from the 100,000 they were projecting. There's your priority right there. Imagine what a trillion bucks on job creation and education could do? Hell, you can wipe out poverty in the US for 18 billion. Just really shows you where chimpy's priorities are at, doesn't it?

Friends foil home? Curses! Foiled again!

Lottery lawsuit woman is a fraud? Gee, big surprise there.


"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit."
- W. Somerset Maugham
"And then, suddenly and without warning, it turned into a real-life case of hungry, hungry hippos."
- Stephen Colbert
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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 11:40
indiv
 
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Jan 9, 2004, 11:40
 indiv
 
Hell, you can wipe out poverty in the US for 18 billion.

How?

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:12
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Re: Misc Jan 9, 2004, 12:12
Jan 9, 2004, 12:12
 
Great, more money wasted. How about we try helping out Americans for once. That $120 billion spent on this war/invasion could have cured cancer and AIDS. But hell, we got Dictator Bush's nemisis

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:24
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Re: Misc Jan 9, 2004, 12:24
Jan 9, 2004, 12:24
 
There's always going to be "something" to spend money on. I think exploration, expansion, security, and knowledge are good enough reasons. I guess all of the people working at NASA are pretty stupid.

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Pop Unders
Jan 9, 2004, 12:25
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Pop Unders Jan 9, 2004, 12:25
Jan 9, 2004, 12:25
 
Having the one pop-up and redirect per day was fine. No problem.

Now, however, there is a disease spreading. Instead of an easy to deall with, happy to help Blue situation, we have Pop-Unders.

These are becoming very annoying Blue. Especially with you as my homepage. I may have to add you to my bookmarks instead of visiting every time I open a browser window.

I support you supporting yourself. I can't, however, deal with such an annoyance. Can we go back to one popup per day with a single redirect per day?

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:31
Nyl
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:31
Nyl
 
Great, more money wasted. How about we try helping out Americans for once.

You know, throwing money at a problem doesn't always solve it. See War in Iraq.

-Nyl

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My theory
Jan 9, 2004, 12:32
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My theory Jan 9, 2004, 12:32
Jan 9, 2004, 12:32
 
Ahem ahem. My theory, which is mine, is that all skinny people were planted here by aliens to demoralize the human beings and thus make their invasion plans easier to realize.

So you see, there is no mystery about how your ancestors survived the ice age - they arrived here after that.

-tAE-

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good to know...
Jan 9, 2004, 12:35
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good to know... Jan 9, 2004, 12:35
Jan 9, 2004, 12:35
 
Glad to know I'm not the only skinny guy out there suffering through this. I'm upstate in Rochester so I also have a fair amount of snow to move also (though not as much as other...)
Spoon_Gouge
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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:37
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:37
 
Cochese has the gist of it. I can't find the numbers atm, but one of the think tanks did a break down of it, and it came out that you could eliminate homelessnes, malnutrition/hunger, and all fund all social services for everyone for 18 billion per year.

Don't forget that the government measures poverty as FAMILY of four living on 25k or less per year. Which is a joke as the poverty level for a single person in an average city (population of 500k+) is 21k (12hr). Real poverty in the US is much closer to double that - around 70 million people.

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/poverty.html


"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit."
- W. Somerset Maugham
"And then, suddenly and without warning, it turned into a real-life case of hungry, hungry hippos."
- Stephen Colbert
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Re: Pop Unders
Jan 9, 2004, 12:37
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Re: Pop Unders Jan 9, 2004, 12:37
Jan 9, 2004, 12:37
 
Now, however, there is a disease spreading. Instead of an easy to deall with, happy to help Blue situation, we have Pop-Unders.

There should not be any pop-unders... I will look into this. The policy remains one pop-up per visit (max) and one redirect per day (also max)... this has not changed, and hopefully represents a liveable situation for everybody.
Stephen "Blue" Heaslip
Blue's News Publisher, Editor-in-Chief, El Presidente for Life
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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:40
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:40
 
You know, throwing money at a problem doesn't always solve it. See War in Iraq.

Well, we'll never know unless we actually try. I don't recall any recent annoucements about Bush dropping 87 billion at home, nevermind a trillion on more practical domestic issues. Did I miss one?


"The ability to quote is a serviceable substitute for wit."
- W. Somerset Maugham
"And then, suddenly and without warning, it turned into a real-life case of hungry, hungry hippos."
- Stephen Colbert
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dj blue
Jan 9, 2004, 12:44
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dj blue Jan 9, 2004, 12:44
Jan 9, 2004, 12:44
 
I just got a mental picture of blue scratching away on the thermostat like it was a turntable. Thanks, blue
*grin

edited so as to be less grammatically incorrect.


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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:45
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:45
 
I can't find the numbers atm, but one of the think tanks did a break down of it, and it came out that you could eliminate homelessnes, malnutrition/hunger, and all fund all social services for everyone for 18 billion per year.

Then the cost is actually 18 billion times the number of years you want to fully fund these programs. I could see an argument that the longer you fund free education etc. that less and less people would need the programs but...

I just read an article on the difficulties that some countries with high social spending (and corresponding high tax rates) are beginning to run into problems keeping their programs funded.

Turns out that more and more people are deciding it is easier to just float than work for life's necessities.

Everything in moderation is the best solution IMO.

I'll dig around and see if I can find that article....

-TPFKAS2S
http://www.braglio.org

-TPFKAS2S
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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:49
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:49
 
Better ratchet up the cost year after year because if you give people food and shelter, they will procreate like rabbits.

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:52
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:52
 
Better ratchet up the cost year after year because if you give people food and shelter, they will procreate like rabbits.

Isn't that what we already call welfare? People procreating like rabbits to be qualified. . . talk about floating.

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:52
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:52
 
Hell, you can wipe out poverty in the US for 18 billion.

How?

Mandatory birth control.

Edit: I see a few people have beaten me to to punch here, but it's absolute truth: if you don't have the financial means to support a child, then you shouldn't be having them. Having a social welfare system is a noble and necessary thing, however it has become a means for people to avoid working simply by pumping out children. If you allow yourselve to take a step back, you will notice that just like in any biological sytem, when food (or the means for survival) is plentiful then a population multiplies. Now of course as creatures with a conscience we can't simply abandon people who can't afford to pay their way, but I don't think it's unreasonable to ask those who aren't contributing to society not to increase the burden that they are putting on the rest of us.

I know this is an unpopular view, but it represents the only real solution to the problem (other than that of ensuring compliance to such a program).


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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 12:53
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Jan 9, 2004, 12:53
 
for 18 billion per year.
And how are you going to get that 18 billion per year? Let me guess, tax the rich. Guess what, most of the people considered rich by the government aren't the super-stinking-filthy rich types. My father is considered rich by the tax brackets. He still has his budget problems. Are you going to punish him, just because he's successful and made good business decisions, so some low life drug addict in Detroit, who would probably rather not work, can get a job to feed his five illegitimate children? I've seen the poverty in my area, and past areas where I've lived. Most of those people aren't worth helping. A lot of them are drains on society, they bring it down. Giving them more money to spend on their crack houses would just make it worse. It sounds cruel but it's realistic. Not everyone who doesn't have a job, or steady income, wants or deserves one.

I second the mandatory birth control. Licenses for procreation would be a damn good idea too.

And now for something completely different, yay snow! Gonna do some sledding tonight.

[edit] Me fail english? unpossible.

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 13:01
JM
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Jan 9, 2004, 13:01
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you could eliminate homelessnes, malnutrition/hunger, and all fund all social services for everyone for 18 billion per year.

Do I get a piece of that or is it only for those who are unwilling/unable to earn a living for themselves? I eliminated my own homelessness by educating myself and getting a job.

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Re: Misc
Jan 9, 2004, 13:02
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Jan 9, 2004, 13:02
 
Could be worthwile to pay for him to get a subdermal meiosis inhibitor.

can spell, cant type
maybe not.

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