id Software Gets Owned

id Software sends along the announcement that a couple of their employees have been granted entree into the company's small group of owners:
In further strengthening our management tem, id Software is proud to announce that Todd Hollenshead, CEO, and Tim Willits, lead designer, have been granted ownership shares in id Software, Inc. Todd and Tim join the long-standing ownership team of Adrian Carmack, John Carmack, and Kevin Cloud. Everyone at id would like to thank Todd and Tim for their years of dedication and congratulate them on their latest accomplishment.
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Glad that's good news
Jan 6, 2004, 22:19
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From the title of the newsbit I thought it was going to be another story about game source code getting stolen. That would be just terrific if it were to happen. First HL2 then Doom3.

I'm still pissed about the HL2 theft. Part of me thinks that had it not happened we would have the game by now.

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Jan 6, 2004, 22:23
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A pre-alpha (or something like that) of doom 3 was leaked looong ago, I think well over a year before the HL2 debacle.
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and it was fun as hell too....

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Wow, this has to be the most pointless news I've ever heard in my life(no offense Blue, love ya still). And yes, Doom 3 alpha was leaked along time ago and didn't get as much press coverage as the HL2 one did which is unfortunate, D3 alpha was very nice compared to that POS HL2 one. =p

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Jan 6, 2004, 22:38
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they forgot to add me!

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Jan 6, 2004, 22:46
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"...most pointless news I've ever heard..."

Not really, it's actually pretty heavy news. Various ownership of the company means that they could change their direction altogether if they decided to. I doubt that Carmack and the others would have granted partial ownsership to the two guys if there was anything to worry about, but now the pie is split 5 ways instead of 3.

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But the Doom3 e3 alpha was "just" leaked while the HL2 e3 alpha was stolen. There's a difference, I think.

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Not really, it's actually pretty heavy news. Various ownership of the company means that they could change their direction altogether if they decided to. I doubt that Carmack and the others would have granted partial ownsership to the two guys if there was anything to worry about, but now the pie is split 5 ways instead of 3


This could definitely effect future projects at id. When it came time to do Doom3, John C., Steed, and someone else (can't remember who) were in favor of it, while others at id weren't (Steed wasn't an owner though). I could see this kind of tug of war happening again at some point...

But congrats to Todd and Tim - they've been there awhile, and I'm sure they've paid their dues...

NOW GET DOOM3 OUT THE F$%*ING DOOR!!!

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I don't think there HL2 e3 alpha was stolen. Valve used that as a lie just to buy more time which they obviously needed. Saying it was stolen and that they had to rewrite the code was in other words saying, the game isn't near complete. I also think Valve could be behind it getting onto the internet. They desperately needed an excuse and they got a hell of one.


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Xero will obviously be buying the Half-Life 2: Tinfoil Hat edition...

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> Doom 3 alpha was leaked along time ago and didn't get
> as much press coverage as the HL2 one did

My understanding was that an alpha build of Doom 3 was leaked to the public by someone.

The Half Life 2 source code was what got stolen (and a build of the game was subsequently compiled from it). There's a gigantic difference between the two situations.

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Jan 6, 2004, 23:44
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Yes this is interesting due to the fact that, as someone already mentioned, there was some interneal debate over whether or not to make DooM3 as well as some of the power issues written about in the Masters of Doom book. I am willing to bet that they are not equal partners.

Also I am a bit curious if this is a magnanomous gesture or if there was some power play by Hollenshead and Willits going on.

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if you actually read the nfo, it says the guy didn't forget to swipe the game along with the source code

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Re: Tinfoil Hat Club
Jan 7, 2004, 00:50
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Jan 7, 2004, 00:50
 
I hear admission this year is up to $5,000 and you have to provide your own black tennis shoes.

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Wow, grats to Tim & Todd! I don't think anything but hard & distinctive work could have gotten them this. Oh, and Carmack's innate sense of sharing.

Also noticed that Kenneth Scott was labelled lead artist for Doom III in yesterday's CGW interview, the first time I've seen that out in the open, though the game has always had his fingerprints all over every screenshot.

Props to id for not stagnating!

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Just to clear it up...
Jan 7, 2004, 02:21
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Just to clear it up... Jan 7, 2004, 02:21
Jan 7, 2004, 02:21
 
Yes, a build of HL2 was leaked along with the source code. Even a bit of Condition Zero too.

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Re: Just to clear it up...
Jan 7, 2004, 02:26
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As I recall, evidence seemed to suggest the half-life source code theft and beta build leak to be separate events. I don't think it was compiled from the stolen source, but rather leaked by a separate party after the source theft.

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Re: Just to clear it up...
Jan 7, 2004, 08:01
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Naturally it's good to see those who've worked at id for so long be given the appropriate props but the fact remains that if The Carmack leaves in a rocket ship for Cygnus X-1 or whatever the company would have diddly divided by squat.
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Plus, remember, this (Blue's News) was originally a Quake-only site (Blue's Quake Rag), so it's only fitting that anything id Software related would recieve attention - right down to Carmack's Slashdot posts.

And I for one am all for it!
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