Moog, you dug your own grave with that last rambling piece of nonsense. The most humane war fought in history and you call the unfortunate civilian casulaties "murder".
Joe, on the other hand, argues his views reasonably.
But, he is still wrong.
We can argue the war (VN) all day. I don't think there is a liberal conspiracy, really. I think that the sensationalism that is today's news leans itself towards the left. I think this is more of an economic impact than a complicated plan. They need to sell advertising. Bad news always sells more advertising than good news. Liberals tend to see things pessimistically. These adjendas are just natural partners..
The Afghanastan war... I didn't see what you saw. I saw the left decrying any offensive action. Just like now. Bush absolutely made it clear we were going after any government that we considered an immediate threat. The attack on the Trade Center changed the threat factor. It was now obvious that America could be hurt by that type of attack. It was imperitive that we eliminate any such entity that was capable of supporting such an attack. We are doing that now. We will handle Syria and Iran in time. Lybia and the rest of them are coming around.
You don't redistribute my wealth!?? Are you nuts? What do you call welfare? What do you call Social Security? What do you call Medicade or Medicare? Prescription Drug Act?(Bush on that one. He screwed his constituants over) ALL of those things are socialist/communist principals. It is relieving people of their civil responsibilities and spreading the burden over the populace. These are basic principles of communism. You are taking MY money and giving it to someone else. It matters not if it is in the form of drugs or medical care. It is still my money. My only fiscal responsibility should be for roads, military, and any other public infrastructure. That's not uncaring, it's practical.
Nobody starves in the streets in America. Nobody would starve in the street if we eliminated welfare. We DO take care of people. But, there is a difference between a helping hand and supporting them.
And, you are totally wrong about the abuses in the system. Women have babies just for the extra money they get for support. This is well documented and if you don't believe me, just run down to your local slum and start asking questions. You are gonna be surprised at their honesty in bilking the tax payers.
Funny, all these people who need work and government support, yet we need to let the illegal aliens in to work jobs Americans won't do. Hmmmmmm
This comment was edited on Jan 8, 18:07.