Inkswitch, I do not hate America, I am just educated about it's past, and I have noted, and learned from it's huge mistakes. Liberals caused the pull out from Vietnam with good reason, ie 4 million Vietnamese civilians being slaughtered by the American army might not put Average American Joe in the best light to the Billions of people in Asia.
Make no mistake, America is not the target of terrorists because they are "Big on the world stage". Israel is tiny potatoes, even compared to Canada, and they experience more "terror" than America and Canada combined. Palestine is even smaller, and Israel Army's terrorism has not ceased in that country for decades. This begs the question: Why, oh why would little Israel be such a piece of prey? Is it because they love freedom (they even erected a freedom fence!)? Is it because their women are allowed to walk unshrouded? Is it Anti-semitism? No, no, and no - Israel has preyed consistently on Palestinians for years, and in the process has made survival (food/water etc.) a challenge for them. Palestinians see this, and lo and behold, they attack Israel with all means available. Israel responds. America has assaulted the third world for the last sixty years with military, and covert operations, and in some cases - such as Afghanistan, stepped on the toes of someone who doesn't/didn't feel like taking it. Hence the attacks on America and it's interests globally, by non-Americans.
Canada, on the other hand, or, say, Mexico, who stay the fuck out of other countries political business, and mind their own, have not been attacked recently. Why? WHY????
Liberals, or at least the sane ones, do not want continuation of USAs global policy of interference for business interests (which both the intervention in Iraq, and Afghanistan have been about), and for damn good reasons: September 11 is the best reason (as those (politics for business) policies of days gone by CAUSEd sept11), and the worldwide poverty the USA has inflicted upon the people of the world is another.
Finally, I do worry about my own country - which is the reason, as a wealthy citizen, I am happy to pay taxes for welfare, medical care, and to guarantee members of my society at the very least, survival without insurmountable struggle. BUT I DONT GET ALL MY MONEY, I NEED IT ALL, I AM SO HARD DONE BY BY TAXES!! BOO HOO HOO!! I agree that much of Canada's prosperity has to do with America's, but none of my arguments have been "Down with USA", or "I hate the USA". I can see that the current state of affairs, that being: The stripping of personal Freedom, A president who defames members of his own government for being against him, a President who demands the unquestioning loyalty of his citizens (read serfs), extreme militarism, marriage of church and state, state control of media (didn't hear much about texas WMD plot on national news... I wonder why ), foreign policy geared towards making corporations a lot of money, constant propaganda (to the degree most Americans believe Saddam was responsible for sept 11, had WMDs, etc.), and scapegoating a religious group (Islam/Muslims) - has a scary definition. That defninition is Facsism. I do not, in any way, nor will I ever, be comfortable with, or not decry real life facsism in the country to my south - which happens to have enough nukes to destroy our species many times over.
You are all for freeing the oppressed people of the world? BULLSHIT. If you were, you would be telling your government to get the fuck out of occupied and oppressed Iraq, and would delve into the source of the oppression. Which oppression do you mean? The oppression of Shi'ites in Iraq? Oh yeah, a conservative hero (Bush, via April Gillespie's AOK for the whole thing) drowned their last attempt at autonomy in blood, killing 30,000 poeple (By the way, the Shi-ite rebellion I refer to would have ended Saddam's regime in 1990). The oppression of Iraqis before OPERATION IRAQI FREEDOM? I guess it can't be that, that was the USAs fault as well... oh well, only a million kids died from those oppre- I mean... "freedom" sanctions. Or maybe the oppression of women in Afghanistan? GWB and his conservatives really cleaned that one up for them... for about two days. Please, inform me about the oppression you are so opposed to and would like to end.
LAst thing this time: American companies did not move labor jobs out of the country for lack of employees, they did it to improve their bottom line. Millions of children employed by companies like: Wal-Mart, Coca-Cola, Nike, Reebok, (insert almost all American owned manufacturing companies here) can attest to this, while they earn a few pennies a day. Or, go to flint and find some laid off auto workers, and ask them what they do for a living now. You are so fucking clueless ...This comment was edited on Jan 8, 16:08.
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