Out of the Blue

Well I played a little DOOM yesterday, but also ran into a reality check about playing multiplayer online. When all the participants in a deathmatch are using network address translation to connect to the internet, setting up a server is problematic. A little re-wiring here is required to swap between NAT networking and a straight connection where my PC has my IP address to allow for this sort of gameplay. In the meantime I keep pondering whether there's some sort of way around this without reconfiguring the network, but I can't imagine how connecting to a server that's sharing an IP through NAT could be possible.

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Serv'n thru NAT?
Dec 11, 2003, 10:43
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Serv'n thru NAT? Dec 11, 2003, 10:43
Dec 11, 2003, 10:43
 
That's usually pretty easy to setup. You just configure the router to tunnel the port your serving on to the same port on your local PC...make sure to give your local PC a static IP address, and voila.

Kraster

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Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers.
Dec 11, 2003, 10:50
nin
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Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers. Dec 11, 2003, 10:50
Dec 11, 2003, 10:50
nin
 
A Christmas w/o booze makes nin cry...

Now I'm gonna have to drink extra for all those NZ'ers...

Where's my stunt liver?

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Easier!
Dec 11, 2003, 11:01
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Easier! Dec 11, 2003, 11:01
Dec 11, 2003, 11:01
 
The easiest way to get past your NAT router is to set your private IP in the DMZ field in your router settings. This'll expose ALL your ports to the net, the same as if you weren't using a router. Only one machine on your network can do this at a time.

This method is useful when you have no clue what port to open.

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Re: Easier!
Dec 11, 2003, 11:07
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Re: Easier! Dec 11, 2003, 11:07
Dec 11, 2003, 11:07
 
Yeah, but opening ALL your ports to the net? That's crazy talk. You're just asking for trouble when ya do that...

Most games will doc the port that's used by default in a README somewhere, and those peeps servin' to other ports probably didn't want you playing there anyways.

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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers.
Dec 11, 2003, 11:15
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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers. Dec 11, 2003, 11:15
Dec 11, 2003, 11:15
 
Christmas party has come and gone around here. I'll tell you, the hundreds of jello shots were the key to success.

~Steve

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Re: Easier!
Dec 11, 2003, 12:00
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Re: Easier! Dec 11, 2003, 12:00
Dec 11, 2003, 12:00
 
Not every NAT device has a DMZ field. I use an Apple Airport basestation and there is support for port mapping, but nothing like the DMZ AFAIK.

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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers.
Dec 11, 2003, 12:35
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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers. Dec 11, 2003, 12:35
Dec 11, 2003, 12:35
 
Where's my stunt liver?

I choked on my coffee reading that one...

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Re: Easier!
Dec 11, 2003, 12:36
Enahs
 
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Re: Easier! Dec 11, 2003, 12:36
Dec 11, 2003, 12:36
 Enahs
 
Even easier still
http://www.xodemultimedia.com/connector.php

It does not support plain ole' doom. But you can always turn off all the extra crap, and say NO mouse, if you really want that old school feel.



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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers.
Dec 11, 2003, 12:38
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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers. Dec 11, 2003, 12:38
Dec 11, 2003, 12:38
 
That law was passed while I was out there two years ago. The date on the news article is December 2001.

I remember it was something to do with some small mis-wording and politicians on the opposition refused to allow it to be re-worded, as they wanted to embarrass the government as much as possible.

'Do to others as you would have them do to you' - Jesus

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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers.
Dec 11, 2003, 13:05
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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers. Dec 11, 2003, 13:05
Dec 11, 2003, 13:05
 
lol...

"At least one drinker is going to get a shock over Christmas though. Instead of uncorking a $62 (NZ $150) vintage Hawke's Bay red, the drinker will find a bottle of coloured water, the New Zealand Herald reported on Thursday.

The mistake happened last week when winery staff in the town of Hastings accidentally sold a display bottle labelled Gimblett Road 1998 Cabernet Sauvignon-Merlot."


And watch whoever ends up drinking it not even notice... they'll be like.... ahhhhh it's so smooth. And then will wonder why their mouth has been dyed red after looking in the mirror.

BJB

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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers.
Dec 11, 2003, 14:16
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Re: Dry Christmas looms for NZ drinkers. Dec 11, 2003, 14:16
Dec 11, 2003, 14:16
 
How do you bring in prohibition "by mistake." That is ridicidicidicidiculous. Man if I went to the liquour store and it wouldn't sell me liquour, I'd lose it.

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Re: Easier!
Dec 11, 2003, 14:41
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Re: Easier! Dec 11, 2003, 14:41
Dec 11, 2003, 14:41
 
However you get the public IP and port to the private IP machine, either map all ports to a single private IP or just the necessary ports, I've still had problems where the game will try and broadcast the private IP as the game server IP and hence no one can connect to it. That's something I'd be interested in solving also.

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Re: Serv'n thru NAT?
Dec 11, 2003, 14:44
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Re: Serv'n thru NAT? Dec 11, 2003, 14:44
Dec 11, 2003, 14:44
 
On my router, it's just called IP Forwarding. You set it up so that any requests for a specific port are forwarded to a specific IP on your NAT. The router does all the work. Simple as that!

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Dec 11, 2003, 14:53
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! Dec 11, 2003, 14:53
Dec 11, 2003, 14:53
 
Merry Christmas.. You win! God, where is my cinema? I should be proclaimed god for winning an 8 level snowglobe maneuvering game.

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Port Forward
Dec 11, 2003, 15:08
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Port Forward Dec 11, 2003, 15:08
Dec 11, 2003, 15:08
 
Blue, Just forward what ever ports doom uses to your computers IP address. Say the port is 58 and your computers ip is 192.168.1.5. Just go to the port forward setup on your router and tell it to forward port 58 to 192.168.1.5.
Then any thing on prot 58 will go to that ip.


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Blue...
Dec 11, 2003, 15:10
Ant
 
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Blue... Dec 11, 2003, 15:10
Dec 11, 2003, 15:10
 Ant
 
Which DOOM did you use? jDoom?

As others say, just tell the router to forward ports. Not hard.

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Snow Globe...
Dec 11, 2003, 15:21
Ant
 
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Snow Globe... Dec 11, 2003, 15:21
Dec 11, 2003, 15:21
 Ant
 
This game reminds me of Marble Madness.

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Bleu...
Dec 11, 2003, 15:48
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Bleu... Dec 11, 2003, 15:48
Dec 11, 2003, 15:48
 
for the love of all things holy, please get rid of that damn Emode pop-up!

Best toy available for Xmas this year! Woot!

http://www2.warnerbros.com/madmagazine/files/onthestands/ots_437/6.html


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Re: Bleu...
Dec 11, 2003, 16:03
nin
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Re: Bleu... Dec 11, 2003, 16:03
Dec 11, 2003, 16:03
nin
 
Best toy available for Xmas this year! Woot!

http://www2.warnerbros.com/madmagazine/files/onthestands/ots_437/6.html


THAT is CLASSIC! Whoo-hoo!



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Future of Bluesnews
Dec 11, 2003, 16:05
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Future of Bluesnews Dec 11, 2003, 16:05
Dec 11, 2003, 16:05
 
This is whats going to happen to this site:

copy paste this

"http://www.bluesnews.com%00@ugo.com"


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