Steam Update

Steam News has details on the latest weekly update to the broadband content delivery system. The post describes fixes it provides for all games as well as specific changes to Day of Defeat as well as tweaks to Counter-Strike and TeamFortress Classic. Thanks Frans.
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Re: It's getting better
Dec 16, 2003, 23:29
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Re: It's getting better Dec 16, 2003, 23:29
Dec 16, 2003, 23:29
 
No one will probably read this because it is so old but, you keep saying we still do have a choice to use WON if we want... No, no we don't. Yeah we might for a few more months or so but who will we play against? There are few servers that still use WON and all competitive leagues have updated to 1.6

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Dec 12, 2003, 02:10
Bob
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. Dec 12, 2003, 02:10
Dec 12, 2003, 02:10
Bob
 
Also- remember that Half-Life is the last game you will have to download


wow, that's big of them to not require you to download 1+ Gigs

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Re: Typo
Dec 11, 2003, 20:55
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Re: Typo Dec 11, 2003, 20:55
Dec 11, 2003, 20:55
 
Umm... yeah that should be a "%" then a ")", after 50... not a rollie eye smiley... Heh

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Re: Typo
Dec 11, 2003, 20:50
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Re: Typo Dec 11, 2003, 20:50
Dec 11, 2003, 20:50
 
Actually it *does* resume, but the progress bar does not. In other words, if you download half, disconnect and then reconnect, the download will begin at the half way mark, but the progress bar will begin at 0% (so when you have downloaded 75%, the progress bar will show 50%).

Though it may be annoying to have to redownload game content, the resume on the downloads, coupled with the generally good transfer speed from Steam servers (apart from the gridlock that occured at launch) make it as painless as possible. Also- remember that Half-Life is the last game you will have to download. You will be able to install HL2 and directly integrate into Steam. No big download necessary.

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Re: Typo
Dec 11, 2003, 18:43
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Re: Typo Dec 11, 2003, 18:43
Dec 11, 2003, 18:43
 
Because it STILL "stabs" those who use 56k connections right in the back (once WON goes down). Most people have to use a dial-up connection you know.
Mine has a 4 hour connection limit and though I am free to dial back in straight away the STEAM(ing pile of shit) refuses to resume thus rendering it impossible for me to get it up and running and I know of LOTS of others in the same boat.
I paid Valve my money and I have the right to play online weather I have a dial-up or broadband connection.

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Re: It's getting better
Dec 11, 2003, 18:42
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Re: It's getting better Dec 11, 2003, 18:42
Dec 11, 2003, 18:42
 
Heres a shocker: WON sucked. REALLY F'IN BAD.

Its like if somebody replaced your rusty moving scrapheap excuse for a car with a damn Ferrari, and youre complaining because one of the lightbulbs are broken.

I like Steam so much I wish other games would run it too, like UT2003 which I mostly play (Red Orchestra mod)

Steam is a self-improving, auto updating cool thing. WON sucked from the day HL came out, and it still does. But if you insist on using it, NOBODY CAN STOP YOU. Also, the one annoying Steam thing is that it requires a connection even in SP/LAN, this sucks , but valve has promised to fix it, apparently due to popular demand.

Call of Duty go home. Red Orchestra is just much better.
http://www.unrealwarfarex.com/redorchestra/
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Re: It's getting better
Dec 11, 2003, 15:26
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Re: It's getting better Dec 11, 2003, 15:26
Dec 11, 2003, 15:26
 
Valve never gave gamers a choice not to use WON when Half-Life first came out either. That's just the way they designed their product.

As for being forced to "beta test", well, 1.5 still works and many are still playing on WON. Valve said they would keep that network running till Steam is where they want it to be... so I don't think you are really being forced at all.

Now that they have their own network system, it seems pretty silly to continue to pay WON to use theirs.

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Re: It's getting better
Dec 11, 2003, 15:03
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Re: It's getting better Dec 11, 2003, 15:03
Dec 11, 2003, 15:03
 
The problem is that valve did not give gamers a choice. It wasn't like "Hey check out this sweet new console style/server broswer/content delivery system you can use now!" It was "Hey, if you ever want to play your precious CS again you have to beta test this app for us, because that WON that you payed for with your HL money, yeah... It's gone."

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Re: It's getting better
Dec 11, 2003, 12:48
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Re: It's getting better Dec 11, 2003, 12:48
Dec 11, 2003, 12:48
 
And sometimes, the game doesn't want to change levels.

Fixed with this patch.

Run by a company that can't keep its most important assets secure... check.

Hrm, I never understand the people who object to steam because they don't trust some application from Valve. Well, I hate to break it to you, but you already have an application on your computer that contacts the internet, relays information to master servers, and takes up a lot of space. It's called "Half-Life". Why people think Steam is so much worse or so much more insecure, I don't really understand.

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Re: It's getting better
Dec 11, 2003, 10:26
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Re: It's getting better Dec 11, 2003, 10:26
Dec 11, 2003, 10:26
 
"Sometimes I go through periods where I can't download server lists. And sometimes, the game doesn't want to change levels."

Those are the two main problems for me at the mo. They need to implement download speed limit, and deleting of old accounts too.

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It's getting better
Dec 11, 2003, 09:41
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It's getting better Dec 11, 2003, 09:41
Dec 11, 2003, 09:41
 
Probably a couple of months ago, they finally fixed Steam so it would recognize the fact that I was connected (behind my NAT router).

So, once I could finally actually use it, I found that Steam wasn't all that bad.

It still has its annoyances though. It's slow to start games. Sometimes the servers I try to connect to inexplicably can't get a Steam authentication ticket. Sometimes I go through periods where I can't download server lists. And sometimes, the game doesn't want to change levels.

The most annoying thing are these "security modules" though. I like the idea of having periodic (even maybe as often as daily) updates to foil cheaters. However, it seems on some days it feels the need to download and install a new one every friggin time I connect to a server, even if it's the same one I was just playing on!

But, when it works, it works pretty darn well. They just need to get it from working 2/3 of the time, to working 95%+ of the time. Until then, don't think of using this to distribute Half Life 2.

So thusfar, thumbs in the middle, IMHO.



Mechanik

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Re: Doom
Dec 11, 2003, 09:11
cia
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Re: Doom Dec 11, 2003, 09:11
Dec 11, 2003, 09:11
cia
 

Steam has escaped from my anus.

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Re: Doom
Dec 11, 2003, 08:35
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Re: Doom Dec 11, 2003, 08:35
Dec 11, 2003, 08:35
 
or free downloads of the original Doom

Well given that id Software still charges for Commander Keen on their website, free games from them are unlikely. Besides it's not like everyone doesn't already have DOOM (or can't get it).

But hey, they were the ones who started the whole "give away source code" trend, so it's not like anyone's going to get mad about them being stingy.
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Re: Typo
Dec 11, 2003, 07:22
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Re: Typo Dec 11, 2003, 07:22
Dec 11, 2003, 07:22
 
"Better interface... check.
More stable... check.
Fewer bugs... check.
Weekly support patches for anticheat... check."

Run by a company that can't keep its most important assets secure... check.


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Re: Eh....
Dec 11, 2003, 07:03
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Re: Eh.... Dec 11, 2003, 07:03
Dec 11, 2003, 07:03
 
Beta testing in prep for HL2/CS2 =P

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Eh....
Dec 11, 2003, 03:52
me
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Eh.... Dec 11, 2003, 03:52
Dec 11, 2003, 03:52
me
 
Most of the people i have asked say that Steam doesnt really make any changes to the games except some to CS. And i dont play CS since its too old so why would we want to even use it? I mean, if we dont have to...?

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Re: Typo
Dec 11, 2003, 03:04
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Re: Typo Dec 11, 2003, 03:04
Dec 11, 2003, 03:04
 
I can't believe there are still people railing against Steam. I can't really think of one thing wrong with it... the last problem I was having (occasional timeout during map loading) was fixed with this patch.

Better interface... check.
More stable... check.
Fewer bugs... check.
Weekly support patches for anticheat... check.

Hrm...

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Typo
Dec 11, 2003, 02:44
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Typo Dec 11, 2003, 02:44
Dec 11, 2003, 02:44
 
The "content" in "content delivery system" is supposed to read "crap"

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Doom
Dec 11, 2003, 01:03
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Doom Dec 11, 2003, 01:03
Dec 11, 2003, 01:03
 
I'm surprised there was no news about anything Doom-related from iD today.. I was expecting at least some new screenshots of D3 or free downloads of the original Doom.

This space is available for rent
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Re: No subject
Dec 11, 2003, 00:33
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Re: No subject Dec 11, 2003, 00:33
Dec 11, 2003, 00:33
 
MMAAAAYYBEEEE

You'll think of me
when you are all
aloooonnnneee

*cries* No Fallout 3 *cries*

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