Likewise on the reinstallation of alpha centauri. Hmm.. Now to play with the expansion, or without?

You guys made me re-install Alpha Centauri

You guys made me go re-install Civ 3

I'd like to see them add revolutions (was in Civ Call to Power) and add future stuff like getting off planet and taking over the solar system or multiple solar systems.

More units that vary by each civ would be nice also.

the civ series peaked with Alpha Centauri

Supporter of the "A happy fredster is a muted fredster" fanclub.

what the hell are they going to do that they haven't done 3 other times?

whats the point?

I wouldn't be too surprised if they jump onto the console bandwagon for this one and "streamline" the hell out of it.

Unit match ups were one huge issue. It made me sick when one of my battle ships would be sunk by an iron clad....and 2 iron clads would ALWAYS take out a battleship. A squad of musket men seemed to have little problem taking out a mechanized infantry unit. Just immagine these senerios for a moment....some M2 Bradly Fighting Vehicles get over run by some guys in tri-corner hats and muskets???....the U.S.S. New Jersey getting sunk by the Monitor???....clearly some sort of a "mega damage" outclassed kinda modifier was needed. On a reasonablely high difficutly, cities more than a few map boxes away from your capital (of forbidden city) were totally WORTHLESS. Curroption.

This Civ III just amplified what was wrong with the game.....


Rather than having a technolgy or not, what about degrees of a technolgy? Maybe the Tech could be flight....but there are X lvls of it. The first is like WWI style....up to and past modern war planes. Prop and jet seem to oversimplify fighting aircraft.

And tone down that "global warming" crap....its WAY too harsh in game play....

Anyone else think that this is totally unnecessary? Conquests (an expansion pack) just came out which did a very good job of adding features and squashing any remaining bugs.

What else can they possibly do with the series? Not enough time has passed to require a graphical upgrade.

Sid Meier is the Steven Spielberg of the PC world! Yes, this is the man that created Civilization, but he also created Pirates, Railroad Tycoon, Silent Service, Gunship, and Gettysburg, to name only a few! Wouldn’t gaming be better off if he put his miraculous talent to good use thinking of more original games, rather then pumping out endless Civ games?

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I know it's blasphemy, but I kind of think of Rise of Nations as a somewhat innovative take on the Civ series. I'd love to see more depth and civ features in RON, but I love the game model with border changes, attrition and all the rest. I can't see myself getting civ 4 unless they really change the model a little bit. I too think alpha centari is the best of all of them.

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Back in high school, I can guarantee I spent more hours playing Civilization II than probably all other games I owned combined. Saturdays spent with the computer on in the morning going around doing chores and coming back to make a few moves before heading out to mow lawns for my neighbors. Computer probably was on for weeks =P

So, like many other people, I went ahead and bought Civilization III off the shelves with out hesitation. I popped it in, loaded it up....and was looking at a cleaner, crisper versions of Civ II...with very little actual gameplay innovation or improvement.

Sure you could have settlements, it looked nicer, the AI was a little more devious, but in the end I certainly didn't feel I was missing out on anything when I loaded up my old laptop with Civ 2 when I went to visit relatives during the holidays. I've even spent more time recently playing Alpha Centauri, a seriously under-appreciated game. If it had been more successful, no doubt Civ 3 would have had more changes.

Civilization suffers from the same dilemma as SimCity in my belief. A winning gameplay combination that focuses on micromanagement to various degrees. One such aspect that I would like to see is a Governor system that attempts to learn from how the player builds up cities.

Perhaps more intricate diplomacy. Perhaps the option to 'zoom in' on battles and plan them out hex-style...if you want.

One aspect of Civ 3 I was *never* able to get to function right was that of making an army by stacking units together with a leader. It was poorly documented in-game and out.

lets hope its better than civ 3 was.

Excellent...

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