Star Wars KOTOR Beta Patch

The LucasArts Entertainment Website now offers downloads of a beta version 1.01 patch to update Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic, the Force-wielding RPG. The beta patch should only be applied to users experiencing a certain sound bug on Intel i845 or i850 chipset based motherboards or a crashing problem with Radeon 9600-vbased video cards. Thanks Frans.
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Nov 22, 2003, 09:41
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Re: No subject Nov 22, 2003, 09:41
Nov 22, 2003, 09:41
 
Holy crap, when was the last time we saw an actual company representitive post here!? BioWare, you guys are the greatest. Not only are your games some of the best stuff out there, but your support has always been awesome as well.

Another $50 for BioWare. God help me if they ever revive the BG series...


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Nov 21, 2003, 18:16
Sty
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Nov 21, 2003, 18:16
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err if you're gonna buy it anyways what are you going to lose by not buying it now

Huh? I lose nothing by not buying it now. Or did you mean, "if you're gonna buy it anyways what are you going to lose by buying it now"? In which case, money. I won't drop $50 on a buggy game when I can just sit back, be patient, wait for it to be fully fixed and probably get it for a hell of a lot cheaper. And if the problems are never resolved, just skip it.

You know selling dlc before you patch the client doesn't impress upon me the need to support your shit. -massdev
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Re: It is a good game...
Nov 21, 2003, 16:10
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Re: It is a good game... Nov 21, 2003, 16:10
Nov 21, 2003, 16:10
 
I had forgotten all about that! Wasn't there a code on every page of the manual and a prompt when you booted up the program would ask you for the code on page 5 or something of the manual?
Code phrase actually, it asked you to look up something and type in a specific phrase or word. But very close to what you remember mate.
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Nov 21, 2003, 09:18
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Nov 21, 2003, 09:18
 
"Hey Furious.. changing one piece of equipment can easily screw your system if you don't do a complete reload. Windoze sucks like that..."

Yes, I totally agree and thats what I was trying to say when FuckTard ATI Fanbois OZZ had to entertain us with his stupidity.


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Radeon 9800
Nov 21, 2003, 09:00
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Radeon 9800 Nov 21, 2003, 09:00
Nov 21, 2003, 09:00
 
The game crashed pretty frequently for me, I was about to launch a major post on their forums, then I realised that Bioware wanted people to use the Catalyst 3.8 drivers with the game. I was still running the 3.6.
(Ofcourse, now Jedi Academy won't work, but I guess that's the price we pay nowadays for Nvidia and ATI being in their driver race, and coming out with barely tested drivers every two weeks.)

Once I switched, no more crashes that had been bugging me before. I did get one sound crash, but that's because Creative is the fucking SHITTIEST writer of drivers ever, and getting out of the game and back in fixed it, and yesterday I had a really weird issue, in which the starmap on my ship wouldn't respond when I clicked on it, and I couldn't leave the planet I was on. (A similar problem happened at a part in the game where you need to click something in order to get some massive shields on some massive droid down. Didn't work, so I had to hack my way through ).
Fortunately, I tried to play again awhile later, and the starmap worked again.

I have to say that combat is too console'ish, but is still a great blast, and it's just fun when you're staring at your character screen for ten minutes trying to decide which Force Power you want to use.

Great roleplaying options everywhere, Bioware's excellent party member system (ie, all of them have a story, and most of it is pretty excellent, leading to cool conversations, and most of your party members have things to say to each other as well, a la Baldur's Gate 2.), it looks very nice, especially with 6xFSAA, music etc is all great.

I heartily recommend it. Played for about twelve hours yesterday on my day off, had three crashes, two of which were because of the wrong driver, and one because of Creative just being Teh Suck. I can live with it.

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Nov 21, 2003, 08:45
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Nov 21, 2003, 08:45
 
This is why for games like this, I just buy then for a console.

I have the xbox version, played the shit out of it, and loved every second. No crashes, no major framerate hits, the confort of sitting on my couch...

I save the PC for FPSs and racing sims. I just can't sit in front of a PC for thirty hours playing a RPG, let alone worrying about it crashing.

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Re: It is a good game...
Nov 21, 2003, 07:48
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Re: It is a good game... Nov 21, 2003, 07:48
Nov 21, 2003, 07:48
 
In truth I have to agree with this, I've been playing games for a long, long time. Back in the old Commadore days actually, and all I can say is when they came out with copy protection back then it was a living hell. Try playing Mission Impossible on your Vic20 and you lost your manual. One great thick coaster!

I had forgotten all about that! Wasn't there a code on every page of the manual and a prompt when you booted up the program would ask you for the code on page 5 or something of the manual?

I loved my C64!

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Nov 21, 2003, 07:47
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Re: No subject Nov 21, 2003, 07:47
Nov 21, 2003, 07:47
 
I think my eyes are bledding or something
My wife and kids love the game too


With your increased medical bills as you try and get your eyes fixed, im surprised the family isnt cursing the very name of KOTOR

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Nov 21, 2003, 07:28
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Nov 21, 2003, 07:28
 
Very worth it.

Started playing around noon yesterday, it's no 4:30 AM here and I just stopped playing, I think my eyes are bledding or something.

I've had 1 crash happen so far after the running the games for a good 10 hours, other then that, no problems at all.

And I really had a good laugh when I saw "You must gather your party before venturing forth" on my screen

My wife and kids love the game too, see how easy it is to make a happy familiy?

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Hmmm....
Nov 21, 2003, 07:24
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Hmmm.... Nov 21, 2003, 07:24
Nov 21, 2003, 07:24
 
I thought this was the best console RPG game I've played to date besides some of the Final Fantasy Series, and was going to purchase it for the PC, but remembered that KOTOR won't have any of the goodies NWN has for it, ie: Editor, Online play etc. A few added Areas and Items aren't enough to warrant purchasing the game a second time.

Hell then again I'd buy it in a heartbeat if they just released some sort of Editor/SDK to create single player mods.

But all in all, Kudos to Bioware for some of the best story/plot twists Ive ever seen in a game, let alone a SW game.

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Nov 21, 2003, 05:28
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Nov 21, 2003, 05:28
 
err if you're gonna buy it anyways what are you going to lose by not buying it now

i wish i could afford this game but $70 Cdn (15% taxes not included) is a tad too much for my student budget (even WITH the new fictitious mayor bucks!)

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Nov 21, 2003, 05:22
Sty
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Nov 21, 2003, 05:22
Sty
 
Guess I'll wait a few months until the bugs are ironed out.

You know selling dlc before you patch the client doesn't impress upon me the need to support your shit. -massdev
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Nov 21, 2003, 02:00
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Nov 21, 2003, 02:00
 
Mashiki Amiketo, I have to disagree with you that you say the sound issue is related to SecuROM. We are able to duplicate the sound pausing issue on executeables that have SecuROM applied and ones that do not. The issue with the sound pausing is related to the sound system that we used and the way we were playing certain streaming sounds. The Beta update (as well as the final update) contains a fix that no longer plays those sounds in that way. Considering that this is the fix, or you can up your FSB, and the fact that we can make the sound hitch happen without SecuROM applied pretty much says that the issue has nothing to do with SecuROM.

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What *is* the purpose of CD protection?
Nov 21, 2003, 01:03
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What *is* the purpose of CD protection? Nov 21, 2003, 01:03
Nov 21, 2003, 01:03
 
When you think about it, it really doesn't do all that much. Cracks are out usually either before it hit the shelves or not long after. It means that Joe average can't easily rip the game and return it to the store. Even the people who pirate it for the purpose of burning it and selling it, can download it from numerous places.

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Nov 21, 2003, 01:02
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Nov 21, 2003, 01:02
 
Hey Furious.. changing one piece of equipment can easily screw your system if you don't do a complete reload. Windoze sucks like that...

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Re: It is a good game...
Nov 21, 2003, 00:33
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Re: It is a good game... Nov 21, 2003, 00:33
Nov 21, 2003, 00:33
 
Whats the issue with the KOTOR copy protection. I hope its not like the NWN: SoU issue all over again. 3 Drives, all failed to install, then 3 weeks for Atari OZ/NZ ( you know the ones that leaked the T3 beta demo ) to send me a replacement disk.

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Re: It is a good game...
Nov 20, 2003, 23:55
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Re: It is a good game... Nov 20, 2003, 23:55
Nov 20, 2003, 23:55
 
In truth I have to agree with this, I've been playing games for a long, long time. Back in the old Commadore days actually, and all I can say is when they came out with copy protection back then it was a living hell. Try playing Mission Impossible on your Vic20 and you lost your manual. One great thick coaster!

Eventually copy protection will die out like it did before, there isn't much of away around this. I use cracks on my games for the simple fact that I see a big increase in performence. The one with Morrowind is terrible, and I really wish they'd get rid of it. But what can you do. Bioware got rid of it on NWN, but this time it's LucasArts call if they are going to do it or not.
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Re: It is a good game...
Nov 20, 2003, 23:43
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Re: It is a good game... Nov 20, 2003, 23:43
Nov 20, 2003, 23:43
 
its funny, publishers are stupid.
Its like they are trying hard to get people to pirate games.

A pirate nowadays gets a much better gaming experience on average, plus the fact that they done have to pay.

The copyprotection now just adds value to warez versions of the games.

Often even when the protection isnt stoping the game from running completly it is still slowing the game down, (morrowind).


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Nov 20, 2003, 23:37
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Nov 20, 2003, 23:37
 
"My Radeon9800 works great, not had a problem. On an Nvidia chipset too.

Furious sucks. His computer is a piece of shit and he is the reason it crashes not the Radeon"

Yeah, funny how changing 1 piece of equipment can make my whole PC a piece of shit. Fuck you very much.

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It is a good game...
Nov 20, 2003, 23:31
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It is a good game... Nov 20, 2003, 23:31
Nov 20, 2003, 23:31
 
and I really am enjoying it alot, but there are some real problems. That copy protection one is the biggest so far, and the Radeon 9600 one I don't experience thank whatever merciful gods you'd like. I have strong dislike for ATI and have for years since the days of the Mach64 fiasco.

If I remember how copy protection is applied, it's after the game as gone gold and pre-production. So, unless they actually go back and test the game again with a copy protected CD which they should have done then they wouldn't have caught this. It should have ofcourse been tested, but LucasArts could have simply said, that's it looks good ship it. Unless we hear from Bioware otherwise we can only speculate.
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