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Activation Schmactivation
Nov 1, 2003, 10:50
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Activation Schmactivation Nov 1, 2003, 10:50
Nov 1, 2003, 10:50
 
When it comes to software, the idea of "product activation" disgusts me like no other, and it's not because of the tedium of having to talk to a human being for permission to use the software you bought.

One easy reason is that your ability to use the product will only last for as long as the company does. Once they go under you're SOL. I'm not saying Symantec or Intuit is in financial danger, but it's happened to smaller fish, either through bankruptcy or acquisitions. The bottom line is that dependency shouldn't even be there in the first place. In fact, one of the DMCA exemptions recently approved* specifically addresses using software circumvention for outdated software mechanisms that required using now-obsolete hardware dongles in order to use them. Is this the only solution we'll have to look forward to 4 years down the road, when our favorite little app can't be used because the company managing its activation disappeared 2 years earlier?

Something more important than that, at least to me, is that product activation automatically treats you as a likely criminal, that it's for granted you'd steal the software before you'd buy it. All I can say to that kind of treatment is "**** you." It's like when you're a teenager and you'd walk into any store, the clerk would be hovering over you the whole time because, in their mind, every teenager is a potential shoplifter. That aggravated me so much that to this day I won't set foot in some of those stores.

Companies no longer getting my upgrade money due to craptacular activation shenanigans:
  • Adobe
  • Macromedia
  • Symantec

It's an easy boycott because, to be honest, there's very little in the newer versions of any of these guys' software that compels me to upgrade in the first place.

* http://www.wired.com/news/print/0,1294,60996,00.html

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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 20:41
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 20:41
Oct 31, 2003, 20:41
 
bah subscription.. you just reinstall it

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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 15:31
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 15:31
Oct 31, 2003, 15:31
 
2003 is such a resource hog that if I leave auto-protect running my machine is unusable.

Well, if your machine is unusable it is protected.

I use AVG. I like it. Was a devoted NAV follower until my subscription came due during a tight financial time. The free scanner from AVG works well enough for me.

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Re: NOD 32
Oct 31, 2003, 14:41
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Re: NOD 32 Oct 31, 2003, 14:41
Oct 31, 2003, 14:41
 
NOD32 http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm has a better detection rate according to Virus Bulletin

It's not, it's useless as tits on a bull and won't find anything.
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,8201352~root=security,1~mode=flat

Some of the more up and up people on the DSLR security forum who do this for a hobby and work for av compaines ran it through it's paces, and it failed.
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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 12:28
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 12:28
Oct 31, 2003, 12:28
 
Symantec Corporate 8.1 is nice. It's low on bloat and you can set the amount of CPU being used. Yes, I can actually use my computer now during a virus scan!

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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 12:27
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 12:27
Oct 31, 2003, 12:27
 
2003 is such a resource hog that if I leave auto-protect running my machine is unusable. I also tried installing it on my game machine and it went completely BSOD.

That sounds very unlucky. I've 2003 running on 3 machines here, gaming rig included, and it works without problems.

It is a resource hog as You say though.

Mike

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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 12:06
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 12:06
Oct 31, 2003, 12:06
 
What happened there? I've never had any issues with 2002 or 2003...maybe I'm lucky.

2003 is such a resource hog that if I leave auto-protect running my machine is unusable. I also tried installing it on my game machine and it went completely BSOD.

Combine that with user friendly features like an inability to get it to automatically delete files it cannot quarantine (even though the option says this is what it will do), and I'm basically over this program and its foibles.
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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 11:42
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 11:42
Oct 31, 2003, 11:42
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My nightmarish experience with NaV 2003 did it for me... what a pig!

What happened there? I've never had any issues with 2002 or 2003...maybe I'm lucky.

I'm hoping S will drop the product activation after this year...otherwise, I'm finding another scanner.

I don't mean to bash on Ant either (Blue, if you worked there, I'd still be bitching about it.), but there's no need for that (PA), and the PR line of "It helps our customers make sure they have a legal copy" is utter BS. The only thing it's doing right now is locking out paying customers! WEEEE!


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No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 11:40
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No subject Oct 31, 2003, 11:40
Oct 31, 2003, 11:40
 
I hate cell phone ring tones

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NOD 32
Oct 31, 2003, 11:36
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NOD 32 Oct 31, 2003, 11:36
Oct 31, 2003, 11:36
 
NOD32 http://www.nod32.com/home/home.htm has a better detection rate according to Virus Bulletin http://www.virusbtn.com/vb100/archives/products.xml and it uses less resources. Don’t fall for the Norton PR, there are plenty of alternatives.

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Re: No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 11:30
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Re: No subject Oct 31, 2003, 11:30
Oct 31, 2003, 11:30
 
this is why Symantec gets no money from me this year...

My nightmarish experience with NaV 2003 did it for me... what a pig!

Sorry ant...
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No subject
Oct 31, 2003, 11:14
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No subject Oct 31, 2003, 11:14
Oct 31, 2003, 11:14
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F%^* Product Activation...this is why Symantec gets no money from me this year...

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