Horizons December 9

Atari sends word to expect Horizons: Empire of Istaria to appear over the horizon on December 9, as that's when Artifact's MMORPG is now slated to go live. Here's the deal:
LOS ANGELES – Oct. 30, 2003 – Atari and Artifact Entertainment today announced that Horizons: Empire of Istaria will ship to retail outlets nationwide on December 9th. The highly anticipated massively multiplayer online (MMO) role-playing game was previously scheduled to release in November. The extra time will allow Artifact Entertainment to continue to make optimizations and improvements to the game in order to provide one of the most compelling MMO experiences this holiday season. Available for PC CD-ROM, Horizons: Empire of Istaria will allow players to experience online gaming like never before in a single massive online world primed for exploration, brimming with adventure and rife with danger.

“Our decision to do the retail launch of Horizons in December allows us to optimize code, polish our extensive tradeskill system, refine combat, engage new modules of monster artificial intelligence, expand the deep quest system and ensure a stable and fun online experience,” said David Bowman, creative director and co-president, Artifact Entertainment. “I think players will be suitably pleased with the end result as we deliver a world where players have a massive impact on their environment -- a dynamic place where cataclysmic events could change the appearance and function of the world in real time right before your eyes.”
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Nov 22, 2003, 12:56
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Nov 22, 2003, 12:56
 
"the last hope for mmorpgs -> www.darkfallonline.com"

no i don't think so.

---> www.Realmsoftorment.com

0wned

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Define
Nov 1, 2003, 10:27
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Nov 1, 2003, 10:27
 
"highly anticipated".

Creston


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Oct 31, 2003, 19:16
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Oct 31, 2003, 19:16
 
MMORPGs are not RPGs, because 90% of people don't role play, and are just interested in doing the level treadmill. There is no sense of community, because the generation X (or whatever) has no interest in role playing, and just want to d00d their way to lvl 99. At least now some games are just "MMO" and not hiding behind the "RPG" billing. So unless one comes out that changes my mind (a role playing server on Middle Earth Online for example), for a true RPG, it's single-player or the old AD&D real life games for me...

P.S. I can't believe Horizons hasn't been released yet. I think I was still in high school when I read about it for the first time, and I'm 22 next April.

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I second the statement
Oct 31, 2003, 07:42
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I second the statement Oct 31, 2003, 07:42
Oct 31, 2003, 07:42
 
About MYTHICA

Played that at Gencon too and watched the developer/salesperson run through it

IT WILL ROCK

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Oct 31, 2003, 03:37
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Oct 31, 2003, 03:37
 
how quickly we all forget the conjecture around artifact and the people running it. from what I know the guys at artifact pretty much stole the company from the founder and made their own game under the well known name of horizons. a tragedy to the industry because of what the game originally offered. if half of what I have heard is true about bowman and other people at artifact buying the game is doing nothing short of supporting scum of the industry. besides the game sucks its just a copy of everything else out there. ill pass on this one!

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Oct 31, 2003, 03:16
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Oct 31, 2003, 03:16
 
MMO's suck, end of line.

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Oct 31, 2003, 03:03
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Oct 31, 2003, 03:03
 
horizons is just another example of how CRAPPY mmorpgs have gotten since UO was killed with all the carebear patches.

the last hope for mmorpgs -> www.darkfallonline.com

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Oct 30, 2003, 23:46
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Oct 30, 2003, 23:46
 
"I'm in the beta for this one, and find it to be rather "blah". It feels like Everquest with clunkier graphics and less to do in general"

Exactly dead on. I don't understand the ravings over the graphics, they are worse than EQ in every way except maybe animations. No pixel shading or any technique late and great, and I expect this of all new releases.

As far as gameplay, i'ts all about the crafting. It's good if your into that, (no where near SWG level though), and fighting is the same as all other games to date, some twists that get old after 10 mins of play.

Just not nearly next gen enough. They should have stuck to Allen's plan. He wanted photo realistic, which was daunting 4 years ago, but alot more achievable now.

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Oct 30, 2003, 23:20
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Oct 30, 2003, 23:20
 
I'm in the beta for this one, and find it to be rather "blah". It feels like Everquest with clunkier graphics and less to do in general.

Also, I don't know why, but seeing a guy playing a little tiny dragon sitting around town crafting bows for hours seemed really.. I dunno.. silly?

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Re: In the beginning
Oct 30, 2003, 22:44
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Oct 30, 2003, 22:44
 
I was playing the beta for a while. Not bad, but certainly nothing to get excited over. Their crafting system is pretty extensive-if repetitive. Lots of races and classes are always nice. Some interesting environments (floating islands and dragon homeland are sweet). All in all nothing new or improved here. I'm sure they'll do ok with it, but not great. It definitely isn't highly anticipated.
Only two MOGs coming out that are really highly anticipated are Mythica and WoW. Mythica is going to own. WoW would own, except for the fact that their community is made up of 14 year old flaming trolls (take a look at the WoW forums, it's just pathetic). If they had an adult server, I might be interested.


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Oct 30, 2003, 22:24
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Oct 30, 2003, 22:24
 
I played the beta for a bit and graphics seemed very clunky. For graphics, I'd go with DAoC. However, crafting was fun. Took a while to figure out, since there are quite a few menus and it's not quite so obvious how everything ties together. But once I had that figured out, I was making all sorts of stuff. I give this game a 'meh'.

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Re: In the beginning
Oct 30, 2003, 21:43
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Oct 30, 2003, 21:43
 
I've played the beta for all of about 20 minutes. It looked nice and played nice but MMOs just really arn't my thing. I have a good friend though who loves the genre and really feels this is an innovative product. While I haven't played enough MMOs, nor do I know enough about Horizons to verify this I do know my buddy has logged at least 200 hours on the beta. Given that he can be a pretty knowledgable critic of the genre I think this is indication that Horizons does at least somethings right.

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In the beginning
Oct 30, 2003, 21:18
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In the beginning Oct 30, 2003, 21:18
Oct 30, 2003, 21:18
 
I used to follow this game back when David Allen still owned VB Designs and hadn't yet moved to AZ to start AE, Inc. In the beginning this game was gonna be the next UO but even better and in 3D. This game was going to be total PvP (with some allies you couldn't attack) with UO level trade skills and EQ like Race/Class structures. Then AE had a big shake up at the top level and most things changed including the 'fun' had gone out the door. There are ~ 250k subscribers that still play UO and would probably locate to a newer MMO if it had UO characteristics but no 'new generation' MMO seems to want to touch PvP and deep trade skills and I'm not sure why, there is a market for it. I 'used' to want this game, 3-4 years ago, if I want PvE then I'll just simply wait for EQ2 or WoW, big name draw. Because they stripped it down to another PvE it is simply another me-to game, shame really.

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Wow does this game suck
Oct 30, 2003, 21:14
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Wow does this game suck Oct 30, 2003, 21:14
Oct 30, 2003, 21:14
 
Read the forums eh?

So 30 losers that post each day make it highly anticipated?

Let me tell you jokers something. For people that seem to be so in the know about computer games, you arent. I saw this piece of shit game and its lousy fucking engine at GENCON in August. It sucks a wad of ass. The game played like shit, looked like shit, had shitty content and is already plagued with lag and numerous connection problems.

The character generation and interaction was so stupid I had to ask the rep exactly how he thought this lame ass game was ready for the public.

The guy couldnt even connect to his OWN BETA SERVERS during the peak Hours of Gencon to show the thing off

PIECE

OF

SHIT

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Oct 30, 2003, 21:09
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Um, if you had a can of Dr. Pepper and a sexy Mexican woman was nearby, you're almost guaranteed she'll have sex with you. Sex sells, and advertising doesn't lie.

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Oct 30, 2003, 19:41
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Oct 30, 2003, 19:41
 Kxmode
 
God I'm so sick of companies that use the claim, "the highly anticipated ..." Unless the game is an A-list game like Star Wars: Galaxies, Half-life 2, and Doom 3 companies need to stop using this statement! Until this headline I've NEVER heard of Horizons! Using "sales puffery" to try to get me to buy the game won't work on me.

Speaking of "sales puffery" have you noticed the latest Dr. Pepper ad? Okay we have a sexxy mexican woman doing something with a can of soda and people having soft-porn sex. Is this suppose to make me want to buy this soda? Hell no! I'm not a fucking lemming!!

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Oct 30, 2003, 19:06
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Oct 30, 2003, 19:06
 
Actually I'm looking forward to it as are a few of my friends. Like anything else in the world certain things are going to appeal to some groups that others would care less about. I think being able to customize your own spells will be a very cool feature, and they carry that customization over to physical items as well. With it being a new mmorpg it gives me a chance to start off in the world at the same place as everyone else, as compared to EQ which I've never played where the vast majority of the players are likely hitting the level max. I'm not saying there's a guarantee this game is going to hold my interest forever, but I'm going to give it a fair shake.

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Oct 30, 2003, 18:23
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 Quboid
 
Really? Wow. Why? It seems to offer nothing new. Graphics are nice, but only for an MMORPG.

Cheers,
Quboid
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Oct 30, 2003, 18:19
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Oct 30, 2003, 18:19
 
Maybe you should read some MMORPG forums. You'd find many people who are looking forward to this game.


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highly anticipated
Oct 30, 2003, 18:10
Quboid
 
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 Quboid
 
"highly anticipated". Really? Who? Name me ONE FRICKEN PERSON who is highly anticipating this game and who isn't involved with development.

Thought not.

Do these people not have a clue how MMORPGs work, in particular how the customers work? You can't make clones in MMORPG's because people anyone who would be interested is already playing one. I can't see very many people playing more than one MMORPG and if they did, they wouldn't play the same type of game.

I'm probably dismissing the next Everquest here but at present, all I see is an Everquest wannabe.

Cheers,
Quboid
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