Deus Ex: Invisible War Updates

Eidos Interactive sends word of some updates to the Deus Ex Invisible War Website. Along with an affirmation that the game is on track for a December 3 release for both the PC and the Xbox, this is what they have to say: "With this update of the official Deus Ex: Invisible War website we bring you more information about the intriguing world of Deus Ex: Invisible War. New profiles on a handful of the players and the organizations they represent in the Deus Ex world. Fresh data on some of the Bots and transgenic creatures you will encounter in your trip across the dark globe. And new information on some of the biomods and weapons that you will rely upon for your very survival. Learn and remember..."
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Re: Yeah Morrowind
Oct 25, 2003, 12:17
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Re: Yeah Morrowind Oct 25, 2003, 12:17
Oct 25, 2003, 12:17
 
I played Morrowind for quite some time, probably around 200 hours or more, but never really got anywhere in any kind of story. I was the Grand Magister of house ehhh, the evil wizard guys, but did it matter ANYTHING at all in the rest of the world? Nope, not really.

My stronghold was built to its highest level, and it was a claustrophobic shithole in the middle of a God forsaken desert of ashes, with absolutely no benefits or anything.

There were four billion dungeons on the island, but they were all the same, no sense to them or anything. Hey look, another hole with a weird name, I'll bet there's...yep, there's five automatically hostile smugglers inside, together with 2000 gold worth of loot. Whee..

And ofcourse, I'm not even mentioning the lack of a difficulty level, meteoric rise through levels, absurdly slow movement rate (I always cheated and gave myself a speed of 300, even at that rate it takes hours to walk across the island, why does the default rate move so damn slow??)

The whole world was stagnant. Don't get me wrong, I think as RPGs go, Morrowind was an important step forward, and I hope to see more of its kind, preferably with more interaction and a better storyline.

As for DX : IW, it will be shorter (only around 20 hours in length), which saddened me when I heard of it, but considering that I STILL found new dialogue on my sixth time through the original, and that this one is a more open system, with different mission depending on which faction you work for (and there's four of them), and that is has Havok physics, so there should be absolutely gajillions options to get around or through things, and I'm thinking we're talking easily a few hundred hours of just sheer gaming goodness.

That said, no game is ever as magical when you replay it than it is on its first time through, and as such, I'm sad that it's "only" 20 hours. Which is still approximately four times as long as Max Payne 2 is...

Btw, I'm replaying the original one more time (my 11th time I think), with 6xFSAA, 16xAF at 1280x1024, and the graphics aren't all THAT bad to look at now.

Creston


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Yeah Morrowind
Oct 25, 2003, 11:35
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Yeah Morrowind Oct 25, 2003, 11:35
Oct 25, 2003, 11:35
 
It was lifeless and dull.

I enjoyed it for about two weeks, so I definitely got my money's worth. It came noweher near capturing the spirit of Daggerfall and Arena though. Outside areas were spectacular, but there just wasn't anything interesting to do. The dungeons were tiny, you'd go in, spend 30 seconds to a minute killing everything for some worthless treasure and then you left to go to the next one. The capital city, Vivec, was an incredible letdown when I finally got there.

At some point I simply lost interest in playing and never went back. There are thousands of mods out there but I've never had any desire to play any of them.
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No subject
Oct 25, 2003, 09:49
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No subject Oct 25, 2003, 09:49
Oct 25, 2003, 09:49
 
I'll just get myself in trouble by piping in that I think Morrowind was crap. Movement was painfully slow, and the whole game lacked personality in its attempt to be big and open, you could do what you wanted, but you couldn't feel like you were particularly involved in doing it. Plus, they committed the biggest ever crime in an RPG... a main storyline character told me to come back when I had more experience. I put the game down, stopped playing it and have never once regretted the loss of my generic character in a generic world.

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fao Warren: sp demo's pretty please :)
Oct 25, 2003, 03:24
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fao Warren: sp demo's pretty please :) Oct 25, 2003, 03:24
Oct 25, 2003, 03:24
 
hello sir,if you release sp demos for dx2 i'll be your best friend, but if you release sp demos' *before* the game ships, i'll be your
*bestest* friend
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Re: Yep...
Oct 25, 2003, 02:26
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Re: Yep... Oct 25, 2003, 02:26
Oct 25, 2003, 02:26
 
Yes, a significant amount of work has been completed:

http://pc.ign.com/objects/015/015244.html

As usual, more information will be forthcoming once Deus Ex 2 has shipped.

Always, always going to refer to it as DE2 rather than DE:IW :o,
Ray

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Yep...
Oct 25, 2003, 02:13
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Yep... Oct 25, 2003, 02:13
Oct 25, 2003, 02:13
 
This game looks insanely good, I haven't been this psyched for a game, since, well... Deux Ex 1. And before that, way back to Final Fantasy 7. I agree with many people that Deus Ex just CAPTURED me and I was so into the plot. I'm replaying it right now, some four or so years after release, for the billionth time. The graphics aren't ageing well, but the storyline is still really immersive and fun. All I could ask for our of DX1 was bigger maps in "open" areas like New York City (which was done so well, with that great music!) and the Hong Kong market.

Regarding Morrowind, while it is visually far superior, I don't think it compared as a game to DX. I was initially blown away by the sheer SCOPE of the game, then I realized something... it's dull. You go in taverns and NPCs are stood in silence, saying the same thing, just gratingly boring. No personality, and the storyline was dull, generic, I could hardly bring myself to read notes. I ended up eBay'ing the game off, and I'm a big RPG fan. DX on the other hand, kept me wrapped in the story from beginning to end.

Thief 3 is something else I can't wait for. Has production actually started yet? I read that after DX2 is complete, the team will move over to Thief 3, which made me assume that it would only start production soon. I liked Thief 1, but the "undead" levels were awful... Thief 2 listened to feedback and turned out to be a classic. I can only imagine how good Thief 3, with improved mechanics, will be.

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Re: I want Deus Ex Online
Oct 25, 2003, 00:53
nin
 
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Re: I want Deus Ex Online Oct 25, 2003, 00:53
Oct 25, 2003, 00:53
 nin
 
A DX Online game would be spiffy. That's all i can say.

I want "One Block", dammit! I doubt he'll ever do it, though...

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Re: I want Deus Ex Online
Oct 25, 2003, 00:51
39.
Re: I want Deus Ex Online Oct 25, 2003, 00:51
Oct 25, 2003, 00:51
 
The orginal had the multiplayer patch, alot of fun but no one played it.

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I want Deus Ex Online
Oct 25, 2003, 00:45
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I want Deus Ex Online Oct 25, 2003, 00:45
Oct 25, 2003, 00:45
 
A DX Online game would be spiffy. That's all i can say.

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Re: No subject
Oct 25, 2003, 00:39
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Re: No subject Oct 25, 2003, 00:39
Oct 25, 2003, 00:39
 
This is the first I heard that this will be shorter. That kind of saddens me as that was one of the best things about the first one.

Considering you can finish the game without ever drawing a weapon, I don't know how anyone can call it a shooter ...

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Re: No subject
Oct 25, 2003, 00:04
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Re: No subject Oct 25, 2003, 00:04
Oct 25, 2003, 00:04
 
Yeah, hopefully they'll focus on finishing up Thief III now that they're basically done with DE. I'm more interested in the next Thief than I am with DE.

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Re: No subject
Oct 24, 2003, 23:21
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Re: No subject Oct 24, 2003, 23:21
Oct 24, 2003, 23:21
 
Yuppers.

http://www.ebgames.com/ebx/product/227256.asp

http://www.gamestop.com/product.asp?product%5Fid=645268

Definitely going to pick this one up,
Ray

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Re: No subject
Oct 24, 2003, 23:12
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Re: No subject Oct 24, 2003, 23:12
Oct 24, 2003, 23:12
 
As far as I am concerned, that release date is completely bogus. Unless Ion pulls the proverbial rabbit out of the hat, the game is not expected until early '04 by all accounts.

Even then, one would begin to wonder how realistic that is, especially considering the time needed to finish the game and marketing wanting to space out releases...

I have played Deux Ex more than any other game; I cannot wait to play the sequel. Having said that, I would trade it all for Thief III this year.

t3h Warren Spector (and crew) = God! Now, I would truly be in heaven if he could "save" my other two dream games/series: System Shock and Ultima Underworld.

Knowing the reality of things, but eternally hopeful,
Ray

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Re: Deus Ex 2 length
Oct 24, 2003, 22:27
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33.
Re: Deus Ex 2 length Oct 24, 2003, 22:27
Oct 24, 2003, 22:27
 Bronco
 
Pleco huh?

Shouldn't that be Pl*co?

Or is your nick from something else?

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Deus Ex 2 length
Oct 24, 2003, 22:22
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Deus Ex 2 length Oct 24, 2003, 22:22
Oct 24, 2003, 22:22
 
DX2 will be shorter in game length but they are 'widening' the scope of the game, which means more options and freedom for the player. Playing again in a different style or allying with a different faction should provide a vastly altered experience. So they say.

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Re: No subject
Oct 24, 2003, 22:18
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Re: No subject Oct 24, 2003, 22:18
Oct 24, 2003, 22:18
 
Has anyone heard anything about Thief 3 lately? The release date on EB is Nov. 4th but the last piece of news I've found on the game is from September. No new screenies, and nothing in the mags either. I loved Deaus Ex but Thief 3 was better imo. The graphice were not as good, but the gameplay elements just fit together supoibly!

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Re: No subject
Oct 24, 2003, 21:27
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Re: No subject Oct 24, 2003, 21:27
Oct 24, 2003, 21:27
 
Looking forward to DX2, although I've heard it isn't as long. Should still be a good one.

This is the first I heard that this will be shorter. That kind of saddens me as that was one of the best things about the first one.

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Re: I really..
Oct 24, 2003, 20:41
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Re: I really.. Oct 24, 2003, 20:41
Oct 24, 2003, 20:41
 
...really, really, really want this game.

'Nuff said.


You are a wise man, Ray Marden. (edit, and Bunko, and nin, and all ye others who loveth our Deus Exeth)

Deus Ex! Deus Ex! Deus Ex! Deus Ex! Deus Ex!

Here's to a great november and december!

Creston

Edit some more : I can understand why some people didn't get into it. I managed to get a buddy of mine to play it, and he spent perhaps ten minutes with it, then tossed it aside, because he hated the fact that it took "four bullets to kill a guy and you only start with six bullets."
Yeah, it isn't Quake, genius...

I've already been heavily enjoying just fucking around with that Havok Engine in Max Payne 2, and you can't even DO anything in that game besides run against stuff and shoot it. The thought of having those physics in Deus Ex just makes me want to cover myself in Nutella and ...

Half Life who? In 2004, all that physics stuff won't seem so amazing anymore, Valve.




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Re: No subject
Oct 24, 2003, 20:32
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Re: No subject Oct 24, 2003, 20:32
Oct 24, 2003, 20:32
 
Is KOTOR PC still on track for Nov 18? If so ti should make for a good Xmas with DX2 and KOTOR to pass the time.


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Re: No subject
Oct 24, 2003, 20:19
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Re: No subject Oct 24, 2003, 20:19
Oct 24, 2003, 20:19
 nin
 
Funny, i seem to remember those exact same words said about valve a few short months ago....

Not from me, ya didn't!

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