Romero & Hall to Midway

Computer and Video Games (thanks Shacknews) has a report up indicating that John Romero and Tom Hall, formerly of id Software and ION Storm, have hooked up at Midway, though the scant detail in the report does not make it clear whether this also means an end to their association with MonkeyStone Games. Here's a bit:
Following information received from sources close to the company, we contacted Midway earlier today and a spokesperson confirmed to us the company has employed the talents of none other than ex-id Software and ex-Ion Storm men John "Don't mention Daikatana" Romero and Tom Hall.

While the spokesperson couldn't confirm the capacity in which these industry stalwarts have been employed, inside sources have informed us that Hall will assume the role of creative director at Midway and oversee all the company's internal projects.

Romero, on the other hand, will, according to our source, re-shape the internal studio and head-up one of Midway's forthcoming games.
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Re: asshats
Oct 14, 2003, 21:07
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Re: asshats Oct 14, 2003, 21:07
Oct 14, 2003, 21:07
 
#38 Oops. So I did, how did I manage that? Must be caffeine and lack of sleep. Spelling may also be broken

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Oct 14, 2003, 09:07
Bronco
 
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Oct 14, 2003, 09:07
 Bronco
 
BTW, Stephen, eat a friggin' sandwhich willya?

Thanks to you I have to wipe hot coffee off my monitor.



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Re: No subject
Oct 14, 2003, 08:58
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Re: No subject Oct 14, 2003, 08:58
Oct 14, 2003, 08:58
nin
 
We either hang the photographer or throw him to the sharks.

Will the sharks have lasers on their heads? Cause if so, then yeah, sharks it is!

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Re: No subject
Oct 14, 2003, 07:27
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Oct 14, 2003, 07:27
 
1998 is ancient.

And that photo is way in your face. With the flash and all, theres no way it would be a nice depiction of El Presidente.

We either hang the photographer or throw him to the sharks.

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Re: asshats
Oct 14, 2003, 07:23
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Re: asshats Oct 14, 2003, 07:23
Oct 14, 2003, 07:23
 
#30:

You forgot Wolf3D

That was as good as other Id games.

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Oct 14, 2003, 07:21
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Oct 14, 2003, 07:21
 
looks like freddy mercury just before he died

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Oct 14, 2003, 07:16
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Re: No subject Oct 14, 2003, 07:16
Oct 14, 2003, 07:16
 
thats not Killcreek next to him is it? if it is it must be ancient

BTW, Stephen, eat a friggin' sandwhich willya?

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Re: No subject
Oct 13, 2003, 21:53
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Re: No subject Oct 13, 2003, 21:53
Oct 13, 2003, 21:53
nin
 
If I were Blue I'd nuke your account for linking to that picture

Let's just say it looks like he had a beer or two?

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I kid, I kid...


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Oct 13, 2003, 21:03
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Oct 13, 2003, 21:03
 
i was deliberating over it for quite some time, but then i figured, what the hell its all in fun!

Having said that if i never post again, youll know why.
Please, Light a candle for me.

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Oct 13, 2003, 20:59
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Oct 13, 2003, 20:59
 Bronco
 
actually i believe Blue beat you to it:

If I were Blue I'd nuke your account for linking to that picture

I'd also sue PlanetQuake if I were him.



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Re: asshats
Oct 13, 2003, 20:57
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Re: asshats Oct 13, 2003, 20:57
Oct 13, 2003, 20:57
 
oh yeah, I liked Romeros Quake episode the most too; ...especially the last level with that deep descent and it's Vore...that was pretty cool; I thought the 'lift' would never stop

..and you forgot the older games like Catacomb 3D or Hovertank in the "pro" list...

btw. is KillCreeks site completely gone ??


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Oct 13, 2003, 20:49
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BTW, I hear KillCreek is out the door. Anyone got her phone #?

actually i believe Blue beat you to it:
http://www.planetquake.com/photos/e3_98/e398wend016.jpg

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asshats
Oct 13, 2003, 20:42
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asshats Oct 13, 2003, 20:42
Oct 13, 2003, 20:42
 
Lets see now. Games Romero has worked on...

1.) Commander Keen -series-. The Commander Keen series was id softwares bread when they were starting up. There were six games (I think, wasn't there another? Can't remember now and don't have my copy of MoD around :)), all released as shareware and all successful.

2.) Doom 1 & 2. Need I say more?

3.) Quake. You could argue that Romeros levels weren't the best in Quake, but personally I found his episode to be the most enjoyable.

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Stuff which Romero worked on that was a 'disaster' - Daikatana.

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One game eh? Woah. You're right we should crucify him! Keelhaul the bastard! Make him pay for that one mistake because he said he's gonna make me his bitch *cries*

Note my sarcasm.

The record speaks for itself.

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Oct 13, 2003, 20:25
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Oct 13, 2003, 20:25
 
imho this deal is worse for the two guys than for Midway; they both made some very cool games; Midway on the other hand produces one mediocre-at-best title after another...

and really, stop bitchin about that Daikatana disaster; if you don't like it you're not forced to play; you can freely decide. he made a mistake, so what; the hype was just half his guilt; the project grew too big for him to handle, it crashed, so what ? he seems to be a very nice guy as a person (didn't hear anything bad about him) and he probably made some nice little games lately (didn't play them for myself)... it peeves me to hear everytime someone mentions the D-word all the same stupid shit again. plus there are other, much worse games than D... (Sniper anyone ?? from the developers website [reason why Rathunt was canned]: "We have suspended development of RatHunt in favour of the eagerly awaited Sniper! RatHunt was not a bad idea, but Sniper is much better one!" ... now this sounds much worse than Romeros slogans :D)

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Oct 13, 2003, 20:13
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Oct 13, 2003, 20:13
 
1 failure out of 5 aint bad.

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Oct 13, 2003, 19:38
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BTW, I hear KillCreek is out the door. Anyone got her phone #?
Really? schweet!

She needs to head to the next E3, I will go and pick her up. What could be better then a hot chick with big breast that is into gaming?...And, I have seen pictures of Romero, I am in hell of a lot better shape, and not so damn ratty looking. Plus, from what I have heard, I am a far more level headed person, and not such a stuck up, conceded ass (but this is all second fifth hand, so I am not specifically saying he is, for all I know he is a hell of a nice guy, my point is I got qualities that KillCreek should come luv on! :).

Here KillCreek, Here Creeky Creeky Creek!


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Oct 13, 2003, 19:33
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"John Romero: The legendary co-creator of Quake"
BBBWWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAAHHHHAAAA!!!!!!!!!
ROTFLMFAO.

Daikatana sucked the puss out of a dead mans balls.


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Oct 13, 2003, 19:18
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Oct 13, 2003, 19:18
 
BTW, I hear KillCreek is out the door. Anyone got her phone #?

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Re: here we go again
Oct 13, 2003, 19:04
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Re: here we go again Oct 13, 2003, 19:04
Oct 13, 2003, 19:04
 
The thing with Daikatana is it wasn't as horrible as everybody claimed it was....it was a bandwagon everyone jumped on, reviewers leading the way, to bring down the once mighty because it makes people feel better about themselves to see someones career flame-out who they feel "have it coming".

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And here we go again from the other side of the coin

The game was really bad, man. It was a stink bomb. Yes, I played it. The point is, even if it wasn't SUPPOSED to be compared to half life etc... it was because it was so late. Now you can blame Eidos for some of the hype, but bet your bottom dollar Romero had a hand in a lot of it. With Daikatana, it's not just that the game was bad, of course, it was that it was bad and very very late, and the whole company fallout was very public, which gave a lot of people who shouldn't have had the chance a murky view into game development gone wrong.

Not to jump on Romero personally, that's not my style. In fact, I think he has wonderful hair. One of my co workers who worked on Daikatana tells me he was a nice guy. But the company he himself headed went tits up in a most fantastic fashion.

It is kind of sad to see Romero constantly associated with utter failure. I'd really like to see him vindicated.


And I do wonder what happened to monkeystone games ... I know they completed the red faction port to the N-gage.

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Re: here we go again
Oct 13, 2003, 18:59
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Re: here we go again Oct 13, 2003, 18:59
Oct 13, 2003, 18:59
 
Hump I usually agree with your posts but not in this case.

Daikatana blew chunks. Maybe if it had come out 2 years earlier than it did it wouldn't have sucked 'quite' so bad.

IMO the game just wasn't fun. Bad lvl design, yuck weapons, horrible sound besides being dated.

Romero has a LONG way to go to redeem himself.
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