Half-Life 2: Delay? Maybe, Playable? Yes [Oct 07, 2003, 4:42 pm ET] – Share – Viewing Comments
New delay for
Half-Life sequel on BBC News (thanks Eraserhead) has a quote from Christophe
Ramboz of Vivendi Universal Games on the Half-Life 2 source code theft that
takes a completely different direction than the talk of four month delays found
in a different article (story), as they have him saying:
"Vivendi Universal Games is only the distributor of the product, which is
produced by the US studio Valve and so it will up to them to make an
announcement." Meanwhile, Thieves
steal playable version of Half-Life 2 on CNN Money contradicts reports that
downplay the amount of code stolen, choosing to reveal that the Source
source thieves "also stole enough game maps and other components to put
together a playable build of the game. Today, five days after the first leak,
they have released that build."
> I just think you're reading too much into the situation
> to suit your view of the events. I don't see any reason
> to believe that Valve is being dishonest or underhanded
> in this matter. They got screwed pretty bad. If I had
> worked on HL2 I sure wouldn't want that beta out there
> because it's not representative of the final product. No
> one wants their unfinished work to be seen by
> the "general public," i.e. people who may not understand
> the circumstances, how far along the game is, what to
> expect, etc. I might look at the beta and realize how
> cool it is and that it means the final game will be even
> cooler, but some might see it and say "What the hell is
> this, I'm not buying it now..." It's just a bad situation
> for Valve.
True, I'm biased. I have had an axe to grind with Valve for a long time, for killing TF2 for years, for preventing us from checking for cheaters while providing VAC (which is useless for anyone but CS/DoD servers), for making our list of thousands of cheaters useless totally unncessarily, and now for insulting us by telling us they need five more months to clean up after these hackers.
BUT, that's beside the point. Yeah, Valve got screwed, but I still see no reason this should delay the game. If they are worried about someone modifying the source, fire up VSS and do a diff on the whole tree with the last known clean date. If they have some security stuff that needs to be "rewritten", do it. If it's truly secure all they'll have to do is regenerate their private keys. And FFS, change all your passwords, people!
Bottom line, nothing they should have to do as result of a break-in should take five months. Shit, you could bring in a college intern to do those things in a day, tops.
If Valve isn't lying to us, Vivendi is, and Valve is towing the line.
> to suit your view of the events. I don't see any reason
> to believe that Valve is being dishonest or underhanded
> in this matter. They got screwed pretty bad. If I had
> worked on HL2 I sure wouldn't want that beta out there
> because it's not representative of the final product. No
> one wants their unfinished work to be seen by
> the "general public," i.e. people who may not understand
> the circumstances, how far along the game is, what to
> expect, etc. I might look at the beta and realize how
> cool it is and that it means the final game will be even
> cooler, but some might see it and say "What the hell is
> this, I'm not buying it now..." It's just a bad situation
> for Valve.
True, I'm biased. I have had an axe to grind with Valve for a long time, for killing TF2 for years, for preventing us from checking for cheaters while providing VAC (which is useless for anyone but CS/DoD servers), for making our list of thousands of cheaters useless totally unncessarily, and now for insulting us by telling us they need five more months to clean up after these hackers.
BUT, that's beside the point. Yeah, Valve got screwed, but I still see no reason this should delay the game. If they are worried about someone modifying the source, fire up VSS and do a diff on the whole tree with the last known clean date. If they have some security stuff that needs to be "rewritten", do it. If it's truly secure all they'll have to do is regenerate their private keys. And FFS, change all your passwords, people!
Bottom line, nothing they should have to do as result of a break-in should take five months. Shit, you could bring in a college intern to do those things in a day, tops.
If Valve isn't lying to us, Vivendi is, and Valve is towing the line.
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