Battle of Britain Declared (Again)

Ubi Soft Takes to the Skies in the Battle of Britain (thanks Frans) is the press release announcing still another flying combat game based on the World War II conflict Churchill called the RAF's "finest hour." This WW2 combat flight simulator is to be created by 1C: Maddox Games (IL-2 Sturmovik), and the announcement also includes word of plans for an IL-2: Forgotten Battles expansion. Here's a bit on Battle of Britain, not to be confused with LucasArts' Their Finest Hour: The Battle Of Britain (1989), Talonsoft's turn-based BoB game (1999), Rowan's Battle of Britain (Nov 2000), WWII: the Battle of Britain 1940 (due this month from iEntertainment), or many other similarly named projects: "The Battle of Britain will be packed with even more historical realism, and will utilize a new engine, a dynamic campaign system and new weather effects. The game will take place in 1940 during the infamous "Battle of Britain", between England, Germany and Italy, and it will allow players to fly for the British, German or Italian air force."
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Re: Why can't they...
Oct 10, 2003, 02:56
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Re: Why can't they... Oct 10, 2003, 02:56
Oct 10, 2003, 02:56
 
Your Huey idea would be a great game! Especially if each Huey could field 2-3 players (pilot and 2 gunners, for example). To be a success though, it'd need to lean heavily towards an action-sim concept, with huge explosions, massive amounts of enemies to shoot at, forgiving physics, aerial battles galore (against other helicopters, even though the NVA didn't have many choppers..), attacks on tanks, APCs, etc (all destroyable by mere machine gun fire!). But I can picture a Blackhawk Down movie-esque game where you're flying just a few feet above the jungle top, with RPGs and Zsu-54 fire flying everywhere. And the ground combat would be extremely well detailed so that you feel like you're watching an FPS game unfold below you, that's how good it would be.

Put all that together and the game would rock. Otherwise a realism-heavy Huey game would be not be interesting to a wide enough market. Anyway, I agree that WW2 sims have been beaten to death. I've been playing them since 1942: Pacific Air War and honestly, none of the WW2 sims since then have really been that much better when it comes right down to it. I think WW2 sims are a dead breed (and sims in general) because of what the games are about: realism. Well, once you get to a certain level, all that's left to make more sims about is the little nitpicky details that the vast majority of people don't care about. Sims self-destructed by simply doing their job.

the Sim genre needs to approach entirely new time periods and points of view.

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Why can't they...
Oct 7, 2003, 16:16
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Why can't they... Oct 7, 2003, 16:16
Oct 7, 2003, 16:16
 
Why can't they stop making games with the WWII era. I like the era and the air battles from that time. But it's a little over flooded like WWII shooters. Why not just jump to the Vietnam theme like everyone else!?

I would love to fly F4-Phantoms and A-4 Skyhawk's over the South Vietnam jungle. Fighting against Russian SAM sites with SA-6 and SA-11 missles coming at you, or dueling MIG's. Or launching from a carrier and ripping through a valley trying to stay below radar coverage at 400knots, then getting linked up with a group unit who needs an air stirke. Hearing the battle in the background noise of the radio chatter then seeing the guys fighting on the group and then dropping napalm or cluster bombs. That would be more fun then flying WWII planes I think anyways. But it's the era where the computers don't control everything, unlike modern combat sims. Where you can fire you Phoenix missle from 40 miles away and never even see your target.

Or why not make a helicopter simulation instead of another plane game! A modern day one or a vietnam time based game! Flying Jolly Green Gaints in or Huey's into a DMZ would be so much more fun! The only fun helicopter sim I've ever played was Operation Flashpoint and flying those helicopters! But the game was a FPS! As for a true simualtion helicopter game I don't think there is one..besides like XPlane.

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Better be a "jump plane" feature
Oct 7, 2003, 02:09
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Better be a "jump plane" feature Oct 7, 2003, 02:09
Oct 7, 2003, 02:09
 
For some reason Forgotten Battles takes forever to load for me, and death can occur quite rapidly. So, not being able to hotjump into another friendly plane that's flying around really blows. I pretty much load game/fly to target for 80% of the game, only to get shot down in the remaining 20%. This is especially lame when i'm just a bomber gunner and have no control over where flak hits! D'oh!

I miss the hotjump feature from other sims, such as 1942: PAW. I think i'll go look if Rowan's Battle of Britain has it...

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Oct 6, 2003, 22:46
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Oct 6, 2003, 22:46
 
While I love Forgotten Battles for it's attention to detail, beauty and setting, I pray Maddox intends to recreate the massive historical formations that clashed over the Channel, and the skies of Britain. The only game I've played to date that has come close to portraying these epic battles is Rowan's Battle Of Britain. These 2 screenshots give just a taste of what I'm talking about ("http://www.geocities.com/zoomode/" the shots only portay about 1/4 of the entire formation i was part of, it extended for miles). If Maddox can incorporate this kind of historical scale, with their usuall attention to detail, i'll die a happy man.

(these shots were taken while using the free BDG addon v.097.3 , a must-have if you own RBOB)

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WW2 beat to death?
Oct 6, 2003, 21:58
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WW2 beat to death? Oct 6, 2003, 21:58
Oct 6, 2003, 21:58
 
I like WW2 games. But it does seem like it's being beat to death as subject matter these days. Right now I have RtCW, MoHH:AA Breakthrough, Call of Duty, and Battlefield 1942 demos installed on my machine in addition to a full install of B17: The Mighty 8th. If I wanted to I could pull European Air War and Jane's WW2 Fighters off the bookshelf and install them as well.

I'm not saying I don't like this trend. MoHAA and the Breakthrough expansion pack is shipping to my address as I type this. I just wonder when they're going to focus on other periods like Korea. Mig Alley was a great sim. Viet Nam remains neglected for the most part, though this is changing. The carrier based multiplayer sim is a good idea.

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Re: Africa?
Oct 6, 2003, 21:00
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Re: Africa? Oct 6, 2003, 21:00
Oct 6, 2003, 21:00
 
Hopefully we get the tools to make our own perhaps.....but now the thought just struck me of the recently released "dedicated" server, so maybe not


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Re: and not to be confused with...
Oct 6, 2003, 19:37
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Re: and not to be confused with... Oct 6, 2003, 19:37
Oct 6, 2003, 19:37
 
the movie called "Battle of Britain". Which I have as a widescreen format DVD.

Takka-Takka-Takka-Takka-Takka.


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No subject
Oct 6, 2003, 19:32
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No subject Oct 6, 2003, 19:32
Oct 6, 2003, 19:32
 
When I heard about a nw Battle of Britain I said "great, yet another developer to attempt to recreate my favourite theatre only to stuff it up somehow." Then i heard that Maddox was doing it, and my "woohoo!!!" echoed across the rooftops of the world. I've been hoping that they would do this ever since I got my hands on Il2.

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Re: Africa?
Oct 6, 2003, 18:17
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Re: Africa? Oct 6, 2003, 18:17
Oct 6, 2003, 18:17
 
Oh yeah, I want this. Let's face it, these guys set the bar when it comes to sims. They should just crank out every theatre there is and put an end to these sims once and for all.

I'm still waiting for someone to put out a Pacific Theatre that will allow players to play online and take out the other team's carriers. How about that for some match play?

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Re: Africa?
Oct 6, 2003, 17:42
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Re: Africa? Oct 6, 2003, 17:42
Oct 6, 2003, 17:42
 
Ditto that. I was hoping for Africa/Med, or at least a Pacific theater--the last good one was 1942: PAW like 10 years ago! (I don't count MS' CFS2--that was FS with guns, but not a combat sim like the others).

[edit because that smiley was supposed to really be a colon and letter!]

The Jedi Master

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Africa?
Oct 6, 2003, 16:09
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Africa? Oct 6, 2003, 16:09
Oct 6, 2003, 16:09
 
One thing that made IL2 so unique was it's unexplored theater or war. I was personally looking forward to Africa or maybe the Mediterranean.

Yet another BoB really seems ho hum to me, but I guess it all comes down to paying the bills. Good luck to them.

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mein got
Oct 6, 2003, 15:35
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mein got Oct 6, 2003, 15:35
Oct 6, 2003, 15:35
 
2005..whoa. Wonder what the target hardware will be in 2005?

richcz3


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My God!
Oct 6, 2003, 12:54
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My God! Oct 6, 2003, 12:54
Oct 6, 2003, 12:54
 
Could the insane talents of Maddox & Co be better suited to this subject matter? This is indeed fantastic news...


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and not to be confused with...
Oct 6, 2003, 12:18
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and not to be confused with... Oct 6, 2003, 12:18
Oct 6, 2003, 12:18
 
the movie called "Battle of Britain". Which I have as a widescreen format DVD.

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Re: No subject
Oct 6, 2003, 12:14
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Oct 6, 2003, 12:14
 
They make a med in pill form for that.
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No subject
Oct 6, 2003, 11:25
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Oct 6, 2003, 11:25
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This WW2 combat flight simulator is to be created by 1C: Maddox Games (IL-2 Sturmovik), and the announcement also includes word of plans for an IL-2: Forgotten Battles expansion.

<nin wets his pants in excitement.>






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