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Half-Life 2 Source Code Leak

A post to the Forums by Gabe Newell finally has a comment on the leaked Half-Life 2 source code, brought to the world's attention by Gamer's With Jobs and Slashdot. Here's the deal:

Ever have one of those weeks? This has just not been the best couple of days for me or for Valve.

Yes, the source code that has been posted is the HL-2 source code.

Here is what we know:

1) Starting around 9/11 of this year, someone other than me was accessing my email account. This has been determined by looking at traffic on our email server versus my travel schedule.

2) Shortly afterwards my machine started acting weird (right-clicking on executables would crash explorer). I was unable to find a virus or trojan on my machine, I reformatted my hard drive, and reinstalled.

3) For the next week, there appears to have been suspicious activity on my webmail account.

4) Around 9/19 someone made a copy of the HL-2 source tree.

5) At some point, keystroke recorders got installed on several machines at Valve. Our speculation is that these were done via a buffer overflow in Outlook's preview pane. This recorder is apparently a customized version of RemoteAnywhere created to infect Valve (at least it hasn't been seen anywhere else, and isn't detected by normal virus scanning tools).

6) Periodically for the last year we've been the subject of a variety of denial of service attacks targetted at our webservers and at Steam. We don't know if these are related or independent.

Well, this sucks.

What I'd appreciate is the assistance of the community in tracking this down. I have a special email address for people to send information to, If you have information about the denial of service attacks or the infiltration of our network, please send the details. There are some pretty obvious places to start with the posts and records in IRC, so if you can point us in the right direction, that would be great.

We at Valve have always thought of ourselves as being part of a community, and I can't imagine a better group of people to help us take care of these problems than this community.


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269. Re: human Oct 4, 2003, 05:05 Undead Scottsman
Zeph, you would make a great clown. You always make me laugh.

Jeremy Dunn

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268. Re: human Oct 4, 2003, 04:51 Zephalephelah
Valve said the 30th. Then there was a so-called delay. Valve Lied, saying, no it's the 30th, this is the 1st I ever heard about it.

Then they lied again. Because it wasn't the 30th.

As for Steam, to play HL2, at least for a few weeks, even single-player, you have to have steam. That's what I've read. Counter-Strike 1.6 & above to 2, you need steam. That's the way it is.

You act like I'm making this up. But anyway, I'm glad that you wrote, because I'm going to print this to a word doc & use it as toilet paper. The only place your words will have impact is on the shit from my asshole.

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267. Re: what is this world coming to ????? Oct 4, 2003, 04:43 shul
I know it won't be easy because I've been to such a company!

Its not possible to ask programmers to stop using the net, simple as that. And if your best solution is to get everybody off the net I suggest you re-evaluate.

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266. zeph Oct 4, 2003, 04:33 human
How is Valve making you use Steam? You can still play HL, CS, and other mods without steam.

Secondly, when did breaking a release date goal become 'lying'? Hm?

Everybody, let's have a little bit of pity for 'zephalephalah'. Unable to deal with the complexities of the real world, he must reduce everything to black and white and then attempt to aggressively insult people who try to show him the shades of grey in the world.

Seriously. Consider for a moment this person who thinks Valve 'lied to him twice' (by announce a release date for HL2) and is now forcing him to use Steam. Perhaps last night Gabe Newell personally waddled to his front door, installed Steam on his computer, then set read-only on his Steam directory so that he could never remove Steam so long as he lives.

Consider the heartwrenching tragedy that this is. Lied to... twice! Then forced to use Steam! The humanity, the pathos, the drama. The sheer agony of what Zephalephalah has gone's nearly beyond my capacity to understand. I suspect only victims of date rape and racial genocide can truly empathize with the deep and everlasting pain that Zephalephalah feels and so shall feel forever and ever. And all because of Valve, because they lied to him twice and then made him use Steam.

So, ladies and gentlemen, when you sleep tonight. Please say a prayer to our Lord and Savior (John Carmack) that Zephalephalah's pain be mitigated somehow. Maybe he can be given the opportunity to touch a girl's breast for the first time. Just a suggestion. My heart goes out to you for the agony you have endured, Zephalephalah.

Lied to. Twice. And made to use Steam...

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265. Re: Fungu Oct 4, 2003, 03:58 Zephalephelah
That was as lame as "I know you are but what am I?".

Why don't you kindly please STFU. K? Thanks.

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264. Re: Shadow Oct 4, 2003, 03:51 Von Helmet
I'm sure Valve and all the other gaming companies have a real incentive to hurry along and make quality products, now that they can see the quality of their buying clientele.

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263. Re: Shadow Oct 4, 2003, 03:13 Fungu
40, and still much higher than yours, even when combined with Creston's.

Language Arts for Children Suffering From Zephalephelah Disease

We are now taking donations to pay for their further education in the following areas:


We appreciate your patronage.

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262. Re: Shadow Oct 4, 2003, 00:05 DOMINIC
AWE come on its midnight on friday. It's not like you have anything else better to do then start a flame war. XJ

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261. Re: Shadow Oct 3, 2003, 23:29 Fleer
That post is just stupid, and is here to incite a flame war. It has NO bearing on Half Life at all. It's just a worthless post...

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260. Re: Shadow Oct 3, 2003, 23:11 Zephalephelah
Actually you cretin, I'm glad you decided to write. Because you are the perfect person to illustrate my point & make an example of to the rest of the class.

Class, please thank Shadow. Without people like him in the world, we wouldn't be considered intelligent at all. We need people like this cretin. If we are to balance out the Intelligence Quotient, then we need stupid people in the world with below 100 IQs. Lucky for us people such as Shadow exist, who, on a good day, has an IQ in the mid 40s.

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259. Re: fraggleroc Oct 3, 2003, 22:50 Quaternion
Oh we're sorry Zeph. You are leet! Valve and everybody else should feel your almighty wrath. Ph34r teh Z3ph!

Get real. Games on time? Yeah right. When they are, it's because the publisher legaly forced the developper to rush it out the door for Christmas. Anyway, how many games have you shipped on time anyway? Yeah that's what I thought. How many games have you shipped at all? Yeah I guessed the answer to that one too. Are you old enough to drink? Didn't think so either.

Other readers are correct. It's sad, but Blue's News is being invaded by angry nerd rejects from /. and VE. People who have no understanding of the real world and who haven't seen female genitalia since their own birth.

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258. Re: i'm so sick of... Oct 3, 2003, 22:41 mbmonk
Preach brother Fraggerloc, Preach!

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257. I sink he haz issuez Oct 3, 2003, 22:21 Nexus
I'll go as far as to suggest a therapist for some anger management help.

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256. Re: fraggleroc Oct 3, 2003, 22:05 Fleer
Wow Zep, your points were so valid.. but what really won me over was the nice and mature language you used to convey them in.


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255. Re: fraggleroc Oct 3, 2003, 21:40 Stolk
I miss the days when Doom and Quake were the BIG THINGS and we just loved to play games.

Edit: I love to play games.

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254. Re: fraggleroc Oct 3, 2003, 21:38 Zephalephelah
Well, here you are on a computer games site telling me this?????

Good game Fuck Wad!

I feel fucked over because Valve lied to me twice & put out a piece of shit product (steam) that I don't want on my computer, but have to in order to play their games.

Anyway, who the fuck asked you, bitch mother fucker! Go push your daddy's love hole & earn your allowance.

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253. Re: fraggleroc Oct 3, 2003, 21:27 human
if you feel 'fucked over' because HL2 didnt make their sept 30th release date, i suggest you center your life around something that isn't a computer game.

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252. Re: fraggleroc Oct 3, 2003, 21:22 Zephalephelah
I guess I can see you view, but I think you should also look at what Valve has done to themselves.

Before E3, the only people that cared about Valve were the ones that felt betrayed by the vaporware of Team Fortress 2. After E3, Valve completely turned around all public opinion by showing off a nearly complete Half-Life 2. At that time, Valve said that they were at the final stages of creating a game they had worked on for almost 5 years in secret. All that was left was completing the levels, which included play-testing, & the bug-squashing.

Everyone was estatic! We were about to play a game that came out of nowhere & was everything we could possibly want & more. It was so damned good that ID software had to completely rethink their new game Doom3 & make it better because Half-Life2 was suddenly there from nowhere to kick its royal ass. This was even better news for gamers, because ID had competition now & that can only mean they'll make an even better game.

Half-Life 2 was slated to appear on the shelves or at least over steam on September 30th. Then we heard about a delay. Then there wasn't a delay. Now there is a delay. And the players feel betrayed again by the lies of Valve.

Steam is a whole other story. People are suspicious of it, don't like it, can't get it to work, or otherwise don't want it on their system in order to play Valve games.

Now Valve is crying about their woes. I don't feel sorry. I think they got what they deserved. Fuck me over once & woe is me. Fuck me over twice & FUCK YOU!

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251. No subject Oct 3, 2003, 21:21 Nonicknameforme
People keep posting "whats really disturbing" bull shit and they don't even realize how self righeteous they sound.

The only thing thats disturbing is the ammount of people who apparently have dirt for brains.

"I'm too much of a narcisist to really hate stupid people."
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250. i'm so sick of... Oct 3, 2003, 20:53 fraggleroc
it's kinda sickening to see people, gamers for that matter, laugh at valve and gabe. yah gabe was a former employee of M$, he made a stupid mistake but valve > gabe. valve is not gabe alone, it's doug lombardi and many others- this is the game company that brought u that game- halflife. this is not M$. there is no reason whatsoever for anyone to hack and steal the source code. p'haps u can make some money but the hacker will surely make more if they hacked into a bank or something. for bragging rights? u'll get more bragging rights hacking into CIA. there's no logical reason i can see to hack a game company. it's sick coz it's likely too that valve got betrayed by one of their own, someone who had played their game- a gamer.

wtf it's only a game- it's there to provide u entertainment away from work/school and some people chose to 'kill' that- by stealing the source, they are killing valve.

i'm getting more sick of the gaming community each day. it used to be just a cool buncha computer folks in the early 80s, who are into games, the first pc gamers on the Commodores and whatnot. then came the first online gaming community- mostly mudders- still really cool and intelligent folks who were just discovering bbs and the internet, who knew a thing or 2 about the pc. followed by the quakers- 3d fps fragfest- still, everyone treated it as a game, no malicious intent, your opponent cheered u on when u beat him, it's still a closely-knit niche community based around computer-users, u get some swearings but people are generally friendly- it's about the Game- Quake, Quake2 and everyone just wanna have some fun. but things are about to change. now every kid and his mother owns a computer, gaming becomes commercialized- 'consolers' joined in, the griefers, cheaters, 'gamers' who claimed they love games for what they are but they're there only for the bragging rights that they were able to 'pwnz' someone else. they usually play only one game, thrash as many people as they could, got sick of it and quit any kinda gaming in half a year to a year. ok i'm ranting, enough of that.

but remember halflife? the moody railway line that brought u into Black Mesa Complex, the sound of the emergency siren screeching in the background. your first task/puzzle- how to get the damn scientist (u can tell he's scared outta his wits by 'some shit') to follow u, help u open some doors... that's some experience i won't forget. that beats hands-down the quake2 start experience- whereby u were dropped in by some ship, blasted through a building and guns ablazing, suddenly these things u were supposed to kill comes running senselessly towards u to be killed.

remember the Interplay logo? For Gamers. By Gamers. Valve truly is one of the Gamers. The hacker sadly is Not.

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