Blue how come you put annoying banner ads all over the place that hijack browser windows and play loud sounds but you are opposed to anyone else trying to make a buck on the internet?

There is a big difference between charging a monthly fee and displaying an ad you have to click thru once a day .. dumb ass.

"Some of you people seem to think you should have everything on the internet handed to you for free, like you are owed something. These companies don't OWE you demos. They can do what they god damn well please with them. Some of you clearly have no idea how the business world works."

You are EXACTLY right...they can do whatever they want. But you know what? Then they dont get the customers. A resteraunt can have NO service....none. Its their right. Its less of a cost to them. But they also get no customers. You obviously dont know how the business world works if you dont know how to cater to your customers. I'm the one paying to buy their service...they damn well better care what I want and know what they OWE me (and a free demo is pretty god damn standard).

united we stand

this is one long thread

Blue how come you put annoying banner ads all over the place that hijack browser windows and play loud sounds but you are opposed to anyone else trying to make a buck on the internet? I think you have already destroyed whatever little credability you have on this issue.

Actually, I meant 63 more posts. Er, 62 now. Either way, good job Blue.

~Steve

Come on guys, 52 more posts for this to be immortalized. I know you can do it.

P.S. Way to go blue.

~Steve

Gamespy stepped up and supplied services that this industry NEEDED. If they had not, they would not be successful today.

You mean gamespy or the game industry? Whether Gamespy is successful or not I could give a shit. And I don't think the game industry is anyway dependent on Gamespy or Fileplanet. If they think they are, it's time they wake up and listen to the people that buy the games.

On a personal level I just don't feel all that ramped up about this. I guess I have too much other crap going on right now to worry about if I have to wait for a demo or a websites journalistic integrity. I know where to get my news.

I agree. I will download the demo from whomever has it when I have time and the desire to try it. I think you guys need to chill out a little bit. We are talking about a game, right?

My take on all this is:

I could care less about exclusive demos. There are all kinds of "exclusive" deals going on in business all the time. Some of you people seem to think you should have everything on the internet handed to you for free, like you are owed something. These companies don't OWE you demos. They can do what they god damn well please with them. Some of you clearly have no idea how the business world works.

On the same token, you don't have to download the demos or buy the full versions if you choose not to. Business isn't about being "fair". It's about making money. In the case of game file distributors, it's about getting and keeping subscribers.

I am a paying member of FilePlanet, and there have been plenty of files I had to wait for because some other subscription service got exclusivity. I have also been one of the many fileplanet customers who have benefited from their work in making exclusive deals of their own. To me it makes perfect sense from a business perspective, and it makes me feel like my money is well spent. Gaming magazines have been getting exclusive demos, previews, etc for years. I have never heard anyone complaining about that!

I will bet most of you who are whining about this are the ones that can't or won't pay for such services. You expect them to be FREE. Get a clue. Who is going to pay for all the bandwidth it takes to serve demos in this growing market? Answer: YOU. You will either pay for a service SUCH AS fileplanet, or you will pay for it at the cash register when you purchase the game.

Overon... what game came out that only supports "gamespy crap"? Are we talking about in-game server browsers? Software companies choose to license gamespy just like some game companies license the Havoc physics engine. This doesn't stop you from using All Seeing Eye, or whatever floats your boat. I think you have this "big bad gamespy antitrust paranoia" thing going on in your head that is unfounded. Gamespy stepped up and supplied services that this industry NEEDED. If they had not, they would not be successful today.

"Since when did Blue's News offer downloads anyway?"


Ahem.... well, I suspect not since it became prohibitively expensive to do so, but this used to be one of the fastest servers around for me, hands-down.

Anytime I needed something, I would just go to ftp.bluesnews without even batting an eye, as I knew the files would definitely be there, and would go hella fast on the download.

Just one more thing on a long list to thank you for, Blue.

I'm sorry, but Gamespy has just gotten out of control. I can understand that they want to make money off the internet, a ver hard thing to do. But come on, if your so "about the communities" and have enough planets to fill several star systems, do you really need us to pay to download a demo? Give me a break, I will not pay to play a demo earlier than someone. There "exclusives" have been nothing that beta software for the most part. I'd rather slit my wrists with rusty nails then attempt to encourage this behaviour by the company "founded on communties". If they are so in touch with the communties they cover so well, why don't the get a frick'n clue.

Well, then why dont Activision just sell this game at just one retailer when it comes out? Could be the best way to go if you want to be "exclusive" now doesn't it?

Get "Call of Duty" at Wal-Mart for only $109.99. Dont fret about the price cause it'll be the ONLY place you can get it!

Sounds a bit twisted... but could that be a near reality?

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Blue, I support you in all of your efforts. Go get em.

~Steve

Difficult to say what is right. Barnes & Nobles is great! I love it, but for them to come into being they destroyed almost all, if not all the small book stores around them in the areas I've lived. I can go into a long explanation on how that all parallels what is going on here, but it's been a long day and I'm tired.
With that said, is Fileplanet a direct competitor with BluesNews?(actually, I don't know. I go to 3Dgamers) Do they offer the same thing that Blue's News offers. Some of the sights mentioned above are for sure direct competitors. I do have to say, exclusive releases are not beneficial to gamers and definetly will become worse in the future if this sort of thing continues. This petition really benifits gamers.

"I can't seem to figure out the motivation of the signed websites besides wanting to cut down on board traffic: exclusive demo=tons of bitching gamers eating into the bandwidth they can barely afford."


Now you're just getting silly. How long did you spend thinking up that theory?

Re-read the letter. Their motivation is perfectly clear. It's not couched in any fancy language, and needs no further explanation.

You don't need to agree with their point of view, but there's no need to make ridiculous accusations like 'they're trying to cut down on board traffic', for Pete's sake!! You really think they're trying to stinge-out on their bandwidth? If they had their way, they'd be cheerfully serving up a freely available version of that demo - guaranteed to be 100s of megs - to all of us in here.

Holy crap it must be frustrating to run one of these sites if that's the kind of idiot-logic you have to contend with on a daily basis.

"They *do* pay for it, so that's not debatable.
Is this something you know for a fact? If so, may I ask how?

Yes, GSI does pay for the right to host exclusives, based on a scale of how many downloads are eventually tallied. This is fact, and Blue, you can email me if you wish to see more (but don't believe me - just ask them).

gw guys, make it freely available to everyone straight away or they can stick it.