Battlefield Vietnam Q&A

BF42.de's Battlefield Vietnam Q&A talks with Armand 'Aj' Marini from DICE about the upcoming Vietnam War follow-up. They discuss the BF1942 mods with related features like EoD and Desert Combat, including this on how the helicopters in BF Vietnam will differ from those in DC:
The Battlefield vehicle system was never intended to be used with helicopters. We had looked at trying something similar with vertical take off (VTOL) vehicles in Secret Weapons, but the system did not allow for an acceptable level of control. The Desert Combat helicopters are the best attempt I've seen at trying to adapt the BF: 1942 system to be used in that capacity, but the issues of control and accessibility still exist.

We wanted a helicopter that was useful in a true helicopter sense. It had to hover with pinpoint accuracy, fly backwards, fly sideways, and airlift. It had to be immensely versatile and as easy to control as a tank. The BF: 1942 system didn't allow for any of those requirements. A new physics system was created for the helicopters and we are extremely pleased with the level of playability we've achieved. You can place it exactly where you want it to be.
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I know what this is for...
Aug 28, 2003, 21:33
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I know what this is for... Aug 28, 2003, 21:33
Aug 28, 2003, 21:33
 
this is for solving the problem of everyone rushing to the choppers and then camping the spawn if they dont get one. The solution, as DICE has discovered, is simple: make the choppers as boring to drive as everything else.

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DC helo competence
Aug 28, 2003, 17:42
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DC helo competence Aug 28, 2003, 17:42
Aug 28, 2003, 17:42
 
Mouse and Kb is the way to go with helos in DC. I found j-sticks too sensitive. Never ehard of EOD before, but i guess i will look for it now.

helos should not be as easy to pilot as tanks. Helos are amound the most difficult crafts to pilot and to reduced it to the complexity of 2 parallel tracks is an insult to helo pilots everywhere, real or virtual.

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whats GMTA mean?

Great minds think alike.

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Aug 28, 2003, 17:07
 
"EOD 20% is still in the works"

Yes it is, the team has not given up on BF just yet. In fact, the next release is only a few weeks away... and will include tons of new stuff. (Cobra Gunship, Mi-4 Hind helis, Mortars, Artillery, 5 new maps, and much more)

And we have moved away from the % naming scheme, the next release will be called 0.2

EoD has barely any servers at the moment, hopefully its popularity will return with the new release.


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Aug 28, 2003, 16:36
 
Hmm I wonder if AI if BF:Vietnam is still crap like in BF1942, it really make lan games shitty when you see that dumbass code runing into a wall or just standing there getting shot at.

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Aug 28, 2003, 16:30
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Aug 28, 2003, 16:30
 
EoD and DC are both great!!! (and free) get them both!

EoD has much better helicopters, better maps, and better ground cover (and a better river boat). I think DC has more refined gameplay, and the new oil fields map is insanely good.

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Aug 28, 2003, 16:29
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Aug 28, 2003, 16:29
 
whats GMTA mean?


"I'm too much of a narcisist to really hate stupid people."
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EOD 20% is still in the works

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Aug 28, 2003, 15:13
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P.S Should I get EOD or DC, is one better then the other or more popular?

get both...they're free. EOD has maybe one or two servers with a decent amount of people playing, DC has hundreds.

FWIW, EOD really had a lot of potential, I didn't even know the team had disbanded. I was really looking foward to more updates as it really could've matched GC's gameplay given time (either that of EA quietly bribed them to back off so as not to upstage BF Vietnam).

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I think Blue should give JM a special prize for that. Like maybe a day of auto-recognition for any posts he sends in even though he wasn't the first. Or better yet, a month of the ability to delete fred's posts.

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Aug 28, 2003, 13:53
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boooy, thats embarrassing

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Now what are the odds of 2 identical posts at the exact same time?

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Aug 28, 2003, 13:03
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P.S Should I get EOD or DC, is one better then the other or more popular?

Get both. EOD is better than DC though.

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LOL! GMTA
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the best EOD map is "charlie doesnt surf" its all i play, its just like being in full metal jacket

Don't you mean Apocalypse Now?
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Aug 28, 2003, 12:51
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the best EOD map is "charlie doesnt surf" its all i play, its just like being in full metal jacket

Don't you mean Apocalypse Now?

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oh great...
Aug 28, 2003, 12:09
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oh great... Aug 28, 2003, 12:09
Aug 28, 2003, 12:09
 
"It had to hover with pinpoint accuracy, fly backwards, fly sideways, and airlift. It had to be immensely versatile and as easy to control as a tank. "

so this means were going to get retard-proof things like we have in Planetside, like your driving a flying boat. the choppers in EOD are actually fun to fly, it actually takes skill to place them just where and how you want.

this will be like going from the Shrike in Tribes2 to the boat-like mosquito in Planetside.

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Aug 28, 2003, 12:06
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Aug 28, 2003, 12:06
 
the best EOD map is "charlie doesnt surf" its all i play, its just like being in full metal jacket

i havnt been able to play DC lately because everytime i download an try to install the new version i get some "corrupt download" crap

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Aug 28, 2003, 12:02
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Aug 28, 2003, 12:02
 
Well this just killed any joy I ever had for this title. The nice thing about the helis in DC was that to fly them, you actually needed some SKILL, not just the desire to hovercamp the control points. Give every llama the ability to fly a heli, and every llama will team kill to be the first asshole in a heli.

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