Final Fantasy XI Details

GameDaily Newsletter (thanks Frans) has word that the Windows version of Final Fantasy XI (though they've scrambled their Roman numerals) will be shipping to North America in late October. Word is: "The first edition of the popular series to go online has already been released in Japan and counts over 250,000 registered users to-date. Owners of the PC version will be able to play in the same world as those playing the game on the PlayStation 2. No new details were forthcoming on the console version of the game, which will be released “in conjunction” with the debut of the PS2’s hard disk drive, whenever that is."
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W T F ?
Aug 11, 2003, 17:20
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W T F ? Aug 11, 2003, 17:20
Aug 11, 2003, 17:20
 
Additional characters can be created for the charge of $1.00 per character per month.

Not bloody likely.

Up until that point, I was definitely going to try this game out : )

Guess I'll continue waiting for WoW...

-Alamar

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Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 17:22
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Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 17:22
Aug 11, 2003, 17:22
 
How exactly have they scrambled their roman numerals?
Old method:

I, II, III, IIII, V, VI, VII, VIII, VIIII, X, XI

Newer method:

I, II, III, IV, V, VI, VII, VIII, IX, X, XI

So, Either way final fantasy 11 will be XI... Or am I missing something?

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Re: Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 17:29
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Re: Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 17:29
Aug 11, 2003, 17:29
 
How exactly have they scrambled their roman numerals?

That's referring to the GameDaily story link, which says:

Square Enix U.S.A., Inc. will begin shipping the Windows version of Final Fantasy IX to North American retailers in late October.
Stephen "Blue" Heaslip
Blue's News Publisher, Editor-in-Chief, El Presidente for Life
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carebear game
Aug 11, 2003, 17:37
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carebear game Aug 11, 2003, 17:37
Aug 11, 2003, 17:37
 
If you enjoy PvE, no PvP, and are now or ever have been a fan of EQ then this game is probably for you.

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BAH!
Aug 11, 2003, 17:38
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BAH! Aug 11, 2003, 17:38
Aug 11, 2003, 17:38
 
BAH! BAH!

Personally, I think the Final Fantasy games are complete ass. I know tons of people like 'em but I can't stand the series. I dislike most other Japanese RPGs as well, with the exception of a few, such as Chrono Trigger, Super Mario RPG and some other SNES game I can't think of.

Oh, yeah and I hate anime as well.

There was only one catch and that was Catch-22

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japanese
Aug 11, 2003, 17:54
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japanese Aug 11, 2003, 17:54
Aug 11, 2003, 17:54
 
I don't like the whole cutsie style of japanese
animation, period. Gives carebear server a whole
new meaning hehe...and I actually prefer pve.

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Re: BAH!
Aug 11, 2003, 17:56
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Re: BAH! Aug 11, 2003, 17:56
Aug 11, 2003, 17:56
 
alot of people like Anime too, that doesn't mean their any good.

No offense to any Anime lovers here but all the ones I know are complete retards that are gonna be life long virgins. Sorry for the off-topic.

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re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 17:59
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re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 17:59
Aug 11, 2003, 17:59
 
Yeah anime always seemed to me like something that
would appeal to young girls...

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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 18:13
Bob
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 18:13
Aug 11, 2003, 18:13
Bob
 
Anime IS kinda stupid. It seems like they spent so much time drawing really detailed and kick-ass pictures that they didn't have any time left to animate it well (especially the mouths)

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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 18:16
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 18:16
Aug 11, 2003, 18:16
 
There's no such "VIIII" thing, it should be IV

Most of anime I've seen was cheap crap and the whole jap/anime fetish already makes me sick. Stories are usualy so cheesy crap in most anime based games(MGS FFS and so on).
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Re: Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 18:40
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Re: Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 18:40
Aug 11, 2003, 18:40
 
there is no such thing as 'IIII' or 'VIIII', only 'IV' or 'IX', respectively, is correct.

i suppose the alleged 'scrambling of roman numerals' is a reference to ff x-2.

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Re: Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 18:45
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Re: Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 18:45
Aug 11, 2003, 18:45
 
i suppose the alleged 'scrambling of roman numerals' is a reference to ff x-2.

No, I already explained this earlier.

there is no such thing as 'IIII' or 'VIIII', only 'IV' or 'IX', respectively, is correct.

This, and the similar post before it, are not accurate. Here's a bit from http://www.wilkiecollins.demon.co.uk/roman/intro.htm

The strict rules about Roman numerals have been used only relatively recently. In earlier periods, although the subtractive principle was used, it seems that it was an alternative rather than compulsory and other forms such as VIIII for 9 and even IIXX for 18 are found. At any date exceptions can be found, as these four examples from different periods and all in Rome itself, show.

BTW, almost all clock faces with Roman numerals use IIII for 4.


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Re: Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 18:51
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Re: Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 18:51
Aug 11, 2003, 18:51
 
I'm learning something interesting on bluesnews every day...

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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 20:34
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 20:34
Aug 11, 2003, 20:34
 
You know, there is an awful lot more variety to anime than I imagine you have probably seen. Just because the anime you've seen was poorly animated or had cheesy stories doesn't mean much.... a lot of the anime that is popular in the US is that kind of crap.... but you can't judge anime as a whole based on that (any more than it would make sense to judge American animation based on Hanna-Barbara). Like anything, there is a lot of junk, but there are also some incredible animated works from Japan. I realize you already have your anti-anime bias in place, but perhaps at some point you may realize there is a bit more out there than just some of the crap you've probably seen. Some of the best anime frankly doesn't even make it to the US at all.

Anyway, I realize there is a very popular anti-Japanese and anti-anime backlash, with the kind of responses posted here (i.e. all anime is poorly animated, all anime has cheesy stories, etc.), and that's to be expected. But seriously, there are some great works out there.... anime isn't all stuff like DragonBall Z, Sailor Moon and Pokemon and their ilk. There are a number of examples with truly beautiful animation, and very complex and well-crafted stories.... if you ever do get interested, a few titles I might recommend would be RahXephon, Now And Then Here And There, Berserk, Cowboy Bebop, Crest of the Stars, Vision of Escaflowne, Grave of the Fireflies, Record of Lodoss War, Wolf's Rain, Last Exile, Macross Plus, 12 Kingdoms, Spirited Away, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind, Jin-Roh, etc...... these are all works that I would say defy some of the stereotypes many people have about Japanese animation.....

But again, if you'd rather just keep your "all anime is crap" attitude, that's up to you. Just try and remember that it is simply a broad term to describe any animation from Japan.... and all anime isn't the same any more than all video games are the same, all movies are the same, all American animation is the same, or all comic books are the same.

Anyway, just felt like saying that. I'm sure though that you are already quite convinced that it's all crap, so this was probably a pointless post on my part...:)
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Re: Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 20:34
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Re: Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 20:34
Aug 11, 2003, 20:34
 
Umm no Blue, sorry but clocks dont have IIII, because it's incorrect... well maybe in US they do

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Re: Scrambled?
Aug 11, 2003, 20:43
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Re: Scrambled? Aug 11, 2003, 20:43
Aug 11, 2003, 20:43
 
Actually, Blue is right about that, about clocks with roman numerals having IIII instead of IV. It's traditional, and the common explanation I've heard is that it has to do with making the clockface look more balanced. Not to say that I completely understand it, but there you go (and this isn't unique to the US, but has been traditional with clocks for quite a while).

The Straight Dope even covered this topic, it seems, if you're interested: http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_153.html

Reading through all of the letters Cecil got on that subject, you can see there's a lot of debate about the WHY.... but there's no question that it has been that way for a very long time, and Blue's original point was correct.

One especially interesting point that is brought up there is that the IV rendering of the number 4 is actually more modern..... someone who knows more could verify it, but it also does perhaps at least partially explain why that tradition started, and why it kept up from there.
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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 20:44
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 20:44
Aug 11, 2003, 20:44
 
Zadillo, I dont think "all anime is crap" but everything I saw to date is, I know it's all the industrial anime, targeted at returds in US and in EU(not as much here, but there is).


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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 20:46
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 20:46
Aug 11, 2003, 20:46
 
Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to overreact there. Anyway, there is some good stuff out there. I think it's just one of those common rules, that the bulk of almost anything ends up being crap..... sometimes with certain things it just requires digging a bit deeper though. But I can certainly at least understand what can cause that attitude though, as a lot of the anime that a casual viewer would be exposed to really isn't very good at all (but is sometimes quite popular among a certain segment of the population).

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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 20:55
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 20:55
Aug 11, 2003, 20:55
 
lmao, what a load of crap in that dumb ass article:

"Many clock historians claim that IIII is supposed to provide artistic balance, since you mentally pair it off with VIII on the other side of the dial. (Presumably you see how the otherwise economical IV would have trouble holding its own in this respect.) "

How the fuck do you pair it eh? Maybe they ment III paired with VIII

Seems like the tradition is from the old times, then people knew even less shit in US. Look at the site's domain name, explains everything.

Go to Italy/Rome and see for yourself what they use for "4"

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Re: re-BAH
Aug 11, 2003, 21:25
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Re: re-BAH Aug 11, 2003, 21:25
Aug 11, 2003, 21:25
 
Thinking of the modern business you would belive they would put IV becuase they could save .0000003 of a penny in ink on every clock instead of putting IIII.

~Halo

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