BioWare & Obsidian

BioWare Forms New Development Relationship Exploring Projects With Feargus Urquhart's Obsidian Entertainment is the press release announcing a new collaborative relationship between BioWare and Obsidian, which turns out to be where former Black Isle Studios president Feargus Urquhart has landed (as CEO). The deal is for both PC and console games, with the quote provided from Urquhart indicating that they will be taking on one or more established properties: "A collaboration with BioWare gives Obsidian the opportunity to explore development projects on established game franchises with proven technology and brand loyalty from the fan community. This is an excellent opportunity for a new studio looking to make an immediate impact in the market."
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To bad
Oct 13, 2003, 20:17
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To bad Oct 13, 2003, 20:17
Oct 13, 2003, 20:17
 
Feargus can't code or do anything useful besides bark orders.

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Re: How about?
Aug 7, 2003, 08:49
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Re: How about? Aug 7, 2003, 08:49
Aug 7, 2003, 08:49
 
Interplay/Black Isle are already working on Fallout 3. It is the "mysterious" Van Buren project...
It will feature a new isometric 3D-engine and realtime, as well as turn-based combat.

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How about?
Aug 7, 2003, 07:33
WRE
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How about? Aug 7, 2003, 07:33
Aug 7, 2003, 07:33
WRE
 
While the talk so far has focused on D&D games, whatdya think the chances are we could be looking at Fallout 3 here?

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Re: No subject
Aug 7, 2003, 02:06
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Aug 7, 2003, 02:06
 
nin: "Interplay had the license for D&D, and it was my understanding Black Isle was working on it (BG3). So my question is: How the hell did Interplay lose the license? I mean, I understand it was their time to renew, and what? They missed it? Are they THAT broke?"

The problem relates to the parent company of Dungeons and Dragons, the paper and pencil RPG. Wizards of the Coast sold it's soul... er sold out to Hasbro. Yes, the toy company. Hasbro bought WotC for the Pokemon card franchise (which was already a dead horse by the time they bought it). Hasbro, being completely witless, had already sold the computer rights to all (yes all) of it's games to Infogrammes (now Atari), probably because they had no idea how to make a good game (or business deal). Hence, when WotC became part of Hasbro, the rights to D&D went to Atari (as Infogrammes in a fruitless attempt to hide it's identity is now called)... and Interplay, and Black Isle, got the shaft. Interestingly, the only division of Hasbro that has made money in the last several years is Wizards of the Coast. But don't worry, Hasbro is slashing creative talent and trying to drag WotC headquarters into the main Hasbro corporate offices (kicking and screaming) so that they may make it just another part of the money losing Hasbro family. Another morbid little business fairy tale brought to you by Chance. If there's a moral to the story, it's don't sell your company to idiots.

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Might be promising
Aug 7, 2003, 00:56
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Might be promising Aug 7, 2003, 00:56
Aug 7, 2003, 00:56
 
If not for the fact that licenses are all over the place.
Hopefully they'll get together and produce some more quality RPGs. I actually wouldn't have cared if Baldur's Gate 3 had been about a different storyline, it's one of the best RPGs ever made! It HOWLS for more!

Come to think of it, I think I read something about Bioware quite awhile back saying that they were interested in doing an RPG not based on any existing franchise, but a la Baldur's Gate. So, they'd build a completely new world, and have you adventure in that. Hopefully something like that is still in the works, has anyone ever heard anything about that?

As for Bioware's ability to still make quality RPGs, NWN's single player campaign was a fucking joke, plain vanilla, nothing original in it, nothing cool, just boring Bard's Tale / Might and Magic crap. However, the engine itself, and what can be done with it, is pretty spectacular. For those of you who are interested in playing a seriously cool series of NWN single player adventures, check this guy out

http://adamandjamie.com/nwn/

His Shadowlords campaign is cool, but his Dreamcatcher campaign will blow you away. Seriously. Want to actually RIDE a Dragon? This guy will get you there. What he accomplishes with the Aurora engine is stuff that Bioware didn't even know was possible. Viewed in that light, NWN is actually pretty good.

But still, I want something else out of Bioware. A GOOD roleplaying game, instead of their pathetic NWN OC. And I want KotOR for the PC, and I want it now dammit!

I think the next RPG to come out of Bioware will be pretty spectacular (insofar as KotOR already isn't..)

Creston

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One more thing
Aug 7, 2003, 00:43
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One more thing Aug 7, 2003, 00:43
Aug 7, 2003, 00:43
 
Just for the record, I don't think NWN was abysmal. There, I said it.

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I wish Bioware would...
Aug 6, 2003, 19:56
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I wish Bioware would... Aug 6, 2003, 19:56
Aug 6, 2003, 19:56
 
Release the mod tools for Star Wars Knight of the Old Republic when it's released for PC in a way like NWN.

True it's single player, but with mod tools like NWN has this would be a awesome game to mod.

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Re: No subject
Aug 6, 2003, 19:39
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Aug 6, 2003, 19:39
 
I really could care less if BG3 continues the storyline or even who develops it, as long as there are more well-done CRPGs... We've got Greyhawk to look forward to, but there's always room for more.

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Aug 6, 2003, 19:33
nin
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Aug 6, 2003, 19:33
nin
 
After playing Red Faction and hearing about Red Faction 2, I'd prefer that Interplay sold the Freespace right to someone who will make use of it.

But did you PLAY FreeSpace 2? I agree, the Faction series seems like a console cash-in, and Summoner didn't interest me at all. But FS? They hit the mark with that one...go find it in the bargain bin if you don't have it, preferably the "Sim of the Year" edition. I promise, the first time a cap ship fires one of it's death star type beams your way, you'll be impressed. You'll also want to get the hell out of the way!

Bioware stated a long time ago that if there was a BG3, it's story wouldn't be connected to the previous two. But then again, Bioware wasn't working on BG3...



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Re: Regarding BG3
Aug 6, 2003, 19:17
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Re: Regarding BG3 Aug 6, 2003, 19:17
Aug 6, 2003, 19:17
 
Baldur's Gate 3 was project Jefferson, now on indefinate hold. The only way IPLY could publish a FR DnD game was if it was under the Icewind Dale or Baldur's Gate Franchise. The following was confirmed about Project Jefferson: it was 3rd Ed DnD and it took place in the Forgotten Realms (most likely the Dalelands). Shortly after IPLY lost the Baldur's Gate License, it was announced on the Black Isle Forums that Project Jefferson was on indefinate hold. Given that information it is very safe to assume that Jefferson was BG3.

Jefferson sounded like a far superior game to the Baldur's Gates so I wouldn't exactly call it a franchise whore. In all likelyhood it would have put Bioware to shame (not hard considering how dismal NWN was). Oh well, at least we've got Fallout 3 coming.

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Re: No subject
Aug 6, 2003, 19:14
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Aug 6, 2003, 19:14
 
After playing Red Faction and hearing about Red Faction 2, I'd prefer that Interplay sold the Freespace right to someone who will make use of it.

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Aug 6, 2003, 18:53
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Aug 6, 2003, 18:53
 
Well the Baldur's Gate series was officially concluded with the BG2 expansion Throne of Bhaal, so any BG3 game would likely be a franchise whore title with little related to the actual series, like Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance.

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Regarding BG3
Aug 6, 2003, 18:52
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Regarding BG3 Aug 6, 2003, 18:52
Aug 6, 2003, 18:52
 
I don't believe in another BG3 game.

The storyline that started with the first BG, ended with the Throne of Bhaal expansion pack (to BG2).

I'm pretty sure they would continue to use the Baldur's Gate name, but I do not think it would have been/will be called Baldur's Gate 3.

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Re: No subject
Aug 6, 2003, 18:00
nin
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Aug 6, 2003, 18:00
nin
 
Interplay had the license for D&D, and it was my understanding Black Isle was working on it (BG3). So my question is: How the hell did Interplay lose the license? I mean, I understand it was their time to renew, and what? They missed it? Are they THAT broke?

And if they are, could they PLEASE SELL THE F$&*ING FREESPACE RIGHTS BACK TO VOLITION?!?!?!?!?

Thank you!



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Aug 6, 2003, 17:41
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Aug 6, 2003, 17:41
 
Really? Christ, I never knew that. Such a shame!

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Re: No subject
Aug 6, 2003, 17:37
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Aug 6, 2003, 17:37
 
Unlikely the license is in limbo at the moment. BG3 was pretty close to finished under Black Isle but has now been indefinately shelved due to the license issues.

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Aug 6, 2003, 17:34
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Aug 6, 2003, 17:34
 
So, I guess we're talking Baldur's Gate III then?

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No subject
Aug 6, 2003, 17:30
nin
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Aug 6, 2003, 17:30
nin
 
Cool! Didn't know Feargus had jumped ship...


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