Half-Life 2/ATI Bundle?

German site Gamestar.de (thanks HomeLAN Fed) has word (in German, naturally, here's the rough Babel Fish translation) has word from their sister print publication that the release of ATI's RADEON 9900 Pro video card will be bundled with Half-Life 2. They also have word that the game is expected to go gold on September 13, though they do not offer the basis for this claim, though they do point out that both the gold date and the ATI news add further confusion to recent stories about the game's release date (story and story) and an interesting wrinkle to discussions of video card support (story and story).
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Re: GF4 ti 4600
Aug 3, 2003, 18:33
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Re: GF4 ti 4600 Aug 3, 2003, 18:33
Aug 3, 2003, 18:33
 
ummm yeah, okay... we don't need you trying to make a reputation by riding the coat-tails of fred's asinine behavior.

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Re: GF4 ti 4600
Aug 3, 2003, 18:19
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Re: GF4 ti 4600 Aug 3, 2003, 18:19
Aug 3, 2003, 18:19
 
Dear Mr. fredrickson,

It has come to my attention that one of your posts was unfortunently deleted by one Mr. Stephen Heaslip. I find this to be very disapointing, especially when you so eloquently demonstrated with irrefutable proof of his biased journalism in regards to the ATI/Half-Life discrepancy, as well as proof of his unabashed and shameful lies in regards to Sierra Software publications.

At your earliest availability, I would like to dialogue with you about an issue of the utmost importance regarding the aforementioned contracted crate of "papaya" shipments due to the Geraldo Silva port for arrival at 07:20 or thereabouts on September the 3rd, 2003. This is a matter of the utmost urgency, and it is advised to procure methods of dispatch with urgent caution and haste.

Thank you for your immediate attention in this matter.

Yrs tly,

Col. Estanzo LaBrear Esq.
Tripan Corp.
Puerto Ayacucho, Venezuela

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Re: GF4 ti 4600
Aug 3, 2003, 18:00
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Re: GF4 ti 4600 Aug 3, 2003, 18:00
Aug 3, 2003, 18:00
 
i wonder if blue has your profile bookmarked and every so often checks the last few things you've said

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Re: GF4 ti 4600
Aug 3, 2003, 17:55
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Re: GF4 ti 4600 Aug 3, 2003, 17:55
Aug 3, 2003, 17:55
 
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Re: GF4 ti 4600
Aug 3, 2003, 17:08
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Re: GF4 ti 4600 Aug 3, 2003, 17:08
Aug 3, 2003, 17:08
 
-- "Any idea if the GeForce ti 4600 supports the Dx9
-- features that HL2 is going to have? It's performing
-- well right now, but I have some spare cash and want
-- to fully enjoy HL-2 (contents AND graphics).
-- But if a new card is ONLY gonna get me a couple more
-- FPS, I don't want to bother. "

Well, the ti4600 is only DX8, so anything specific to DX9 you can't get. But I wouldn't think most visual stuff would be DX9, so I think it will still look great with that card, except no AA or AF.

The 9800pro is probably a good upgrade from the 4600. When you think about the AA and AF, even if the frames arn't much faster with 4xAA and 16xAF on at 1280*960, it still looks 100% better, you'll never go back to anyhting less.

Though I'd wait for the 9900pro at least. I had a Geforce 3, like I said in my last post, but I wanted to wait another generation or more after the ti4600 before upgrading, it just wasn't worth for the extra frames per second when the GF3 was good enough. Then suddently with the r300 with AA and AF, I couldn't resist.

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Re: Not buying it.
Aug 3, 2003, 16:59
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Re: Not buying it. Aug 3, 2003, 16:59
Aug 3, 2003, 16:59
 
I paid 350 for my Geforce 3 on it's release. It was good, but not amazing (besides tech demos). It lasted long enough but it was a lot of money. Though I think just before the Geforce 3 release the Geforce2 Ultra was still around $450+. It of course dropped in price real quickly. So getting the all new Geforce 3 for $350 retail at the time was pretty good I guess for a top of the line card compared to how the pricing of the GF2 Ultra was.

Then I bought the Radeon 9700Pro right on it's release for $399, which included tax and shipping. Now that was a great buy, playing with AA and AF for the first time rocked. BF1942 was just came out, so the R300 was released just in time to make that game look amazing. Though, the GF3 was able to handle that game at 1152*864 maxed out, which is impressive.

Now it's 9-10 months later and the 9700pro is still an awesome card that will last easily another year or more. Well worth the money. The fact that I enjoyed so many games like BF1942 with AA/AF for so long is great while others waited for Nvidias card that ended up being a downer, not beng any much faster than the already 6-7 month old r300, and not to mention noisier and hard to find.

I just upgraded my system from an 1800+ to a 2500+ Oced to at least a 3000+ (still tweaking), so now I got a nice boost in performance making the 9700pro last even longer. I upgrade by video card, then cpu and mobo back and forth.


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GF4 ti 4600
Aug 3, 2003, 16:15
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GF4 ti 4600 Aug 3, 2003, 16:15
Aug 3, 2003, 16:15
 
Any idea if the GeForce ti 4600 supports the Dx9 features that HL2 is going to have? It's performing well right now, but I have some spare cash and want to fully enjoy HL-2 (contents AND graphics).

But if a new card is ONLY gonna get me a couple more FPS, I don't want to bother.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

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Sleeping with the enemy
Aug 3, 2003, 16:13
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Sleeping with the enemy Aug 3, 2003, 16:13
Aug 3, 2003, 16:13
 
I TOLD you guys ATI and Valve were in bed together.

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Re: No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 16:10
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Re: No subject Aug 3, 2003, 16:10
Aug 3, 2003, 16:10
 
Video cards are like the most important part of a gaming machine, and because of that, are the biggest ripoff piece of hardware in a computer. $300-$500 is just absolutely rediculous for a single piece of hardware.
Hmmm, I would tend to think so, but then think that GPUs are becoming more and more complex than CPUs every year, and the prices drop much quicker (you can get a GF4 Ti 4200 for under $100 now, but a 2.5 Ghz P4 is still $200). I think the prices are justified up to maybe $450... but I do agree more than that is pretty ridiculous for something that becomes outdated within a year.

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Re: Not buying it.
Aug 3, 2003, 16:02
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Re: Not buying it. Aug 3, 2003, 16:02
Aug 3, 2003, 16:02
 
Amen, bro. Crazyfool, you're not so crazy after all! Anybody paying more than $250-$300 for a top of the line card is throwing money away. I admit I made that mistake myself I payed $320(US) for a Ge Force 256 a couple years ago and a few months later the price was under $200.

I now prefer to sit back and let the gfx war rage on. And as the card prices drop... I buy the card I like with the features I want at the price I like. Because it's all about me!

And I will never pay more than $250 on a video card again. I will buy a good card at $200 (or less) and upgrade every year or so. I am also considering which card to upgrade to this fall or X-mas season. Have yet to research them all again. So keep posting the good info... not the false info. (Thanks to those of you who get the facts straight.)Damn a 9800 for under $250... oh, yeah I feel the need to upgrade in a few months. Let the 9900s hit then the prices will fall again.

And as far as Fred (and his many other screen names)just ignore him. I must admit his insanity is comical at times. Is there an option to block certain posters?


edit: damned typos

This comment was edited on Aug 3, 16:11.
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Re: No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 15:55
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Re: No subject Aug 3, 2003, 15:55
Aug 3, 2003, 15:55
 
Video cards are like the most important part of a gaming machine, and because of that, are the biggest ripoff piece of hardware in a computer. $300-$500 is just absolutely rediculous for a single piece of hardware.

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No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 15:50
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No subject Aug 3, 2003, 15:50
Aug 3, 2003, 15:50
 
Unless you only upgrade for FPS, you should DEFINITELY buy a 9800 over a 9500. The 9500 is DX8. Many of the things you see in the HL2 demos are DX9. With a 9500 you won't have to worry about getting better FPS, as you're going to automatically have graphical features barred from your use.
Again.. that is ABSOLUTELY FALSE!

The 9500pro will allow you to play the game with the same features as the 9700/9800/9900pro cards. The only difference is you will be forced to play at lower resolutions, and may have to use lower AA levels.



Pentium 4 2.4B 533 FSB
I850EMD2
512mb 40ns Rdram
Radeon 9700pro 330/330
Win Xp
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Re: No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 15:49
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Re: No subject Aug 3, 2003, 15:49
Aug 3, 2003, 15:49
 
My personal recommendation would be to get a 9800 non-pro... same features as the 9800 pro (improved AF/AA speed), at the clock speed of the 9700. And most likely you can over clock it a decent amount if you start hurting for speed down the road. You can get an OEM one for $240 with shipping if you look around a bit. (www.pricewatch.com www.pricegrabber.com www.froogle.com)

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Re: No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 15:45
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Re: No subject Aug 3, 2003, 15:45
Aug 3, 2003, 15:45
 
The 9500 isn't DX9, actually. So it won't be able to use all of HL2's features.
One idiot posts something, and now there is confusion all over. What makes anyone give this guys opinion any credability at all??

For the record both the 9500 non pro and 9500pro are Full DX9 cards with the *identical* Dx9 feature set of the 9700pro. Why is that??? Becuase they are the EXACT SAME CHIP. They are all R300's. 9500pro has its memory bandwidth cut down to 128bits, but still has 8 pipelines, the 9500np has 128bit memory and only 4 pipelines.

However they are all Still the same Technology level. Why that guy decided to post utter nonsense like that is beyond me.



Pentium 4 2.4B 533 FSB
I850EMD2
512mb 40ns Rdram
Radeon 9700pro 330/330
Win Xp
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No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 15:01
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No subject Aug 3, 2003, 15:01
Aug 3, 2003, 15:01
 
Thanks Chimaera just the information I wanted to hear.

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Re: Not buying it.
Aug 3, 2003, 14:57
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Re: Not buying it. Aug 3, 2003, 14:57
Aug 3, 2003, 14:57
 WarPig
 
Here's my guess. The 9800's are still going for $475, so I'm betting that the 9900 will list around $600 while the 9800's drop in price. I doubt that they will dip below $400 until December or so.

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No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 14:48
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No subject Aug 3, 2003, 14:48
Aug 3, 2003, 14:48
 
ATI hasn't officially announced the Radeon 9900 (AKA R360) yet but there's a lot of discussion about the card in the forums over at Rage3D:

http://www.rage3d.com/board/forumdisplay.php?s=e2869e13d6b5c7d223250cb24fc65b56&forumid=45

Also, for those who don't already know, the Radeon 9900 isn't ATI's next gen card (codenamed Loki AKA R420) but rather it seems to be a respin of R350 with higher core/mem clocks.

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Re: Not buying it.
Aug 3, 2003, 14:48
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Re: Not buying it. Aug 3, 2003, 14:48
Aug 3, 2003, 14:48
 
Like Valuesoft games for your TNT2?

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Not buying it.
Aug 3, 2003, 14:44
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Not buying it. Aug 3, 2003, 14:44
Aug 3, 2003, 14:44
 
They could throw in Doom3 and Halo for the PC and I still wouldn't buy this videocard.

I have resolved to never pay more than $200 for a videocard ever again. I can find lots of better things to waste money on.

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Re: No subject
Aug 3, 2003, 14:40
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Re: No subject Aug 3, 2003, 14:40
Aug 3, 2003, 14:40
 
It is a full directx 9 card, xombie is wrong, and hes the only one saying its 8, he replied twice. Xombie man check your facts again.

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